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[SoufOaklin4Life]

Actually it was.

No it wasn't. I know, because I asked the question. No mention of CO2, or man-made...just a general question.

You understand that the greenhouse effect isn't strictly applied to CO2 level and the atmosphere, right? It's a basic principle, which isn't debatable. Hell, it's what makes life on our planet possible.

 

[HailtoPitt]

In the atmosphere, the impact of Co2 on global warming is debatable. It will remain so until proof exists. It doesn't today.

There will never be enough proof to satisfy your faux and politically motivated disbelief.

People can debate if gravitational forces are real, if they choose to ignore the obvious.

 

[PittME75]

In the atmosphere, the impact of Co2 on global warming is debatable. It will remain so until proof exists. It doesn't today.

Proof most certainly does exist...you just choose to pretend it doesn't.

By the way, the radiative effect of CO2 in the atmosphere has been measured and is irrefutable.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I think Louis C.K. has the best take on it..
it's going to end awful, no matter what.

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I find it intriguing that Louis CK' used "South America" in his analogy, and not another continent. He could've chosen another even less developed continent, but he didn't.

Hmmmmmm.....? Maybe even Louis has his limits as to how far that he'll push the envelope?

 

[Gary77]

Global warming on Venus? I am sure it's our fault somehow...

We are not the center of the universe? Duh!! In two months, we will be going to a place "long ago in a galaxy far, far, away". Call me a geek (I know), but the new Star Wars sequel that we have been waiting for 32 years will be released. Looking forward to it.

I believe it's a 'prequel'. Regardless, I'm looking forward to it also.

 

[Gary77]

The reason for the big range in temperature on Mercury. Is that it keeps the same side facing the sun. Much like our moon does as it revolves around the earth.

I wasn't aware that Mars get as high as 70 degrees in the summer. However, you wouldn't want to be there in the winter. Very cold.

Mars is "cold as Hell and no place to raise the kids!", per Sir Elton John

 

[Pghfan]

I believe it's a 'prequel'. Regardless, I'm looking forward to it also.

Wait, 1 thru 6 has been written, is this going to be 7 or -1 (or would it be 0?).. I think it is a sequel, isn't the vivacious Carrie Fisher and Indiana Jones grandparents??

 

[Pghfan]

I believe it's a 'prequel'. Regardless, I'm looking forward to it also.

Wait, 1 thru 6 has been written, is this going to be 7 or -1 (or would it be 0?).. I think it is a sequel, isn't the vivacious Carrie Fisher and Indiana Jones grandparents??

disregard, I took 3 seconds and looked it up myself. Episode 7

Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015) - IMDb

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I find it intriguing that Louis CK' used "South America" in his analogy, and not another continent. He could've chosen another even less developed continent, but he didn't.

Hmmmmmm.....? Maybe even Louis has his limits as to how far that he'll push the envelope?

When I heard it first, I thought he said south agrees to be honest...
But, I suppose how they are powerless to dictators holds true.

 

[NTOP]

Wait, 1 thru 6 has been written, is this going to be 7 or -1 (or would it be 0?).. I think it is a sequel, isn't the vivacious Carrie Fisher and Indiana Jones grandparents??

Overrated, like all these Marvel epics. None as good as "Lost in Space"......or "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet" for REALLY old farts. And, no, no relation to the ex-Gov.

 

[NCPitt]

No it wasn't. I know, because I asked the question. No mention of CO2, or man-made...just a general question.

You understand that the greenhouse effect isn't strictly applied to CO2 level and the atmosphere, right? It's a basic principle, which isn't debatable. Hell, it's what makes life on our planet possible.

You did not ask the question to which I replied.

 

[NCPitt]

There will never be enough proof to satisfy your faux and politically motivated disbelief.

People can debate if gravitational forces are real, if they choose to ignore the obvious.

CO2 is increasing while temperatures are not.

 

[HailtoPitt]

CO2 is increasing while temperatures are not.

If if temps start rising again, will you consider that evidence enough?

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Funny how people differ. I have really tried to get into the Marvel stuff but I just do not enjoy them. But I enjoy the Star Wars stuff, probably because I grew up with the first trilogy (Episode 4,5,6). The prequel trilogy (1,2,3) were pretty poorly done. Now the sequel trilogy (7,8,9) are not thought to disappoint. And the original cast is a part of it...albeit in supporting roles. There are also stand alone films being made, the first of which is a year away, and it is said to be the story of the rebel forces who stole the original Death Star plans prior to episode 4. Anyone confused yet?

Episode 7 will be released in 2 months and is already said to be the biggest film of all time. Estimates are around $2 billion box office. Merchandising is thought to add another $3 billion. Disney bought Lucasfilm for $4 billion. That's quite a bargain...considering the deal will pay for itself in no time. Disney parks has a new catalog of films and characters. Disney will transform from the days of Mickey and Donald, to a new era in which Marvel, ESPN and Star Wars will carry the Mickey mouse club banner.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Overrated, like all these Marvel epics. None as good as "Lost in Space"......or "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet" for REALLY old farts. And, no, no relation to the ex-Gov.

I remember having a "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet" ring that I fished out of a box of Kellogg's cereal. So now I know where I stand in the "Old Fart" pecking order.

 

[NCPitt]

If if temps start rising again, will you consider that evidence enough?

It would be more evidence, but the failure to explain the current pause would mean that a future rise would not be "enough" in itself.

 

[HailtoPitt]

It would be more evidence, but the failure to explain the current pause would mean that a future rise would not be "enough" in itself.

Ok then, what additional data would convince you?

 

[NCPitt]

Ok then, what additional data would convince you?

Proof.

 

[PittME75]

Proof.

You don't have a clue what constitutes proof so your opinion is baseless as usual.

Temperatures never stopped rising. Warmest year ever last year. Even warmer this year.

Here’s what your friends at Exxon said in 1982:

“The consensus is that a doubling of atmospheric CO2 from its pre-industrial revolution value would result in an average global temperature rise of (3.0 ± 1.5)°C … There is unanimous agreement in the scientific community that a temperature increase of this magnitude would bring about significant changes in the earth’s climate, including rainfall distribution and alterations in the biosphere … the results of our research are in accord with the scientific consensus on the effect of increased atmospheric CO2 on climate.”

Since 1982 we are right on track for that 3.0 degree C rise per doubling of CO2.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Not in a laboratory setting.

It was to my question, you even quoted my question.

Which you followed up by arguing that I was wrong about the greenhouse effect, when I wasn't.


It's okay...I expect it from you.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I'm a sucker for the X-Men movies, myself.

 

[NCPitt]

It was to my question, you even quoted my question.

Which you followed up by arguing that I was wrong about the greenhouse effect, when I wasn't.


It's okay...I expect it from you.

It was HtP's question to which I replied. At that point, the conversation had advanced from your question...not hard to do since you were your usual inane self. The question I answered was based on those additional conversations. Apparently, you can't follow along.

 

[ricflair4LIFE]

Overrated, like all these Marvel epics. None as good as "Lost in Space"......or "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet" for REALLY old farts. And, no, no relation to the ex-Gov.

Or Scott McCloud Space Angel

 

[NTOP]

I remember having a "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet" ring that I fished out of a box of Kellogg's cereal. So now I know where I stand in the "Old Fart" pecking order.

I loved the show....1954???

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I loved the show....1954???

I research it, and it was on during the early to mid-1950's. It appeared on 4 different networks, which might be some kind of a record...?

• CBS from October 2 to December 1950
• ABC from January 1951 to September 1952
• NBC from July to September 1951
• DuMont from August 1953 to May 1954
• NBC again from December 1954 to June 1955, with the final broadcast on June 25, 1955.

And one of the regulars on the show was Frank Sutton - who later gained greater fame in the role of Sgt. Vince Carter, on Gomer Pyle, USMC.

 

[ricflair4LIFE]

I research it, and it was on during the early to mid-1950's. It appeared on 4 different networks, which might be some kind of a record...?

• CBS from October 2 to December 1950
• ABC from January 1951 to September 1952
• NBC from July to September 1951
• DuMont from August 1953 to May 1954
• NBC again from December 1954 to June 1955, with the final broadcast on June 25, 1955.

And one of the regulars on the show was Frank Sutton - who later gained greater fame in the role of Sgt. Vince Carter, on Gomer Pyle, USMC.

Isn't Sutton the actor on "Major Crimes?" TNT.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Isn't Sutton the actor on "Major Crimes?" TNT.

Frank Sutton died a while ago (1974)...a sudden heart attack, I think.

So if "Major Crimes" is a newer show, then no, it can't be him.

 

[BPKY]

Proof most certainly does exist...you just choose to pretend it doesn't.

By the way, the radiative effect of CO2 in the atmosphere has been measured and is irrefutable.

You've run a controlled experiment raising and lowering CO2 levels, removing all variables? How'd we miss that?

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

It was HtP's question to which I replied. At that point, the conversation had advanced from your question...not hard to do since you were your usual inane self. The question I answered was based on those additional conversations. Apparently, you can't follow along.

Then quote his question and reply to it, not mine.
When you quote me in your reply, I infer you are answering my question... Because that's how a normal person would.

 

[NCPitt]

Then quote his question and reply to it, not mine.
When you quote me in your reply, I infer you are answering my question... Because that's how a normal person would.

I did. You are wrong again.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I did. You are wrong again.

Go ahead and check.
I'm wrong that you quoted MY question to reply to?

You're mental.

 

[PittME75]

You've run a controlled experiment raising and lowering CO2 levels, removing all variables? How'd we miss that?

Tell me what in the atmosphere would cause the well known quantum level properties of CO2 to change?

Multiple studies measuring down dwelling radiation have been measured over time showing an increase as expected from the increases in CO2 levels. Likewise, on going satellite measurements have shown the same for out going radiation from CO2. This is basic physics, like much of science, in this case absolute conclusions can be drawn based on the evidence.

 

[NCPitt]

Go ahead and check.
I'm wrong that you quoted MY question to reply to?

You're mental.

Honest to God, I don't know why I even deal with you. This is easy enough to check since it is writing. It's like you're a liberal politician who forgets the things they say in past are actually recorded.
Yesterday at 12:45, here was your post that first questioned my answer:

that wasn't the question.

Note that my post - from 10:57 - to which you replied (as shown in quotes) was:

In the atmosphere, the impact of Co2 on global warming is debatable. It will remain so until proof exists. It doesn't today.

And my reply was a response to HtP's post from 8:52 (as shown in the quotes from my post):

Just so we are clear, you are suggesting that the greenhouse effect is debatable?

So, just as I said, I was not replying to you. I was replying to HtP. The quotes show that I am right and you are wrong. Of course, that shouldn't surprise anyone.