OT: mother!

[JohnnyGossamer]

Curious to see pitt-girl's thoughts when she eventually see's it. That's all. I don't want to be one who starts this discussion. But, this one, depending on how many are duped into seeing something that's isn't remotely like what was marketed, may start some talk.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I thought maybe this was a thread about Mike Pence.

 

[Swervin27]

have yet to see a movie but reading the plot online, just cant for life of me imagine Ed harris as a bad guy. dude is a great actor imo. Pfeiffer I can kind of see since she tried to kill Han Solo in some dumb movie about 15 years ago so I can see her in a bad role but not Ed Harris.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

have yet to see a movie but reading the plot online, just cant for life of me imagine Ed harris as a bad guy. dude is a great actor imo. Pfeiffer I can kind of see since she tried to kill Han Solo in some dumb movie about 15 years ago so I can see her in a bad role but not Ed Harris.

Ed Harris? He was a psycho serial killer in a movie with Sean Connery maybe 15 years ago (forget the title), he played a mobster in both the Firm and a History of Violence. He was friggin General Francis X. Hummel in the Rock and my god, one of the great movies of all time, he was the Irish Mobster Frankie Flannery. He was also the Russian sniper in The Enemy At the Gates. Gangster in Run All Night where he was trying to kill Liam Neeson's son.

He has played more bad/dark roles than positive. What the hell have you been paying attention to?

 

[Swervin27]

Ed Harris? He was a psycho serial killer in a movie with Sean Connery maybe 15 years ago (forget the title), he played a mobster in both the Firm and a History of Violence. He was friggin General Francis X. Hummel in the Rock and my god, one of the great movies of all time, he was the Irish Mobster Frankie Flannery. He was also the Russian sniper in The Enemy At the Gates. Gangster in Run All Night where he was trying to kill Liam Neeson's son.

He has played more bad/dark roles than positive. What the hell have you been paying attention to?

you've just opened my eyes here. the sniper movie he was a bad guy in. History of violence too, jesus, how the hell did I forget that one..

 

[upj87]

Ed Harris? He was a psycho serial killer in a movie with Sean Connery maybe 15 years ago (forget the title), he played a mobster in both the Firm and a History of Violence. He was friggin General Francis X. Hummel in the Rock and my god, one of the great movies of all time, he was the Irish Mobster Frankie Flannery. He was also the Russian sniper in The Enemy At the Gates. Gangster in Run All Night where he was trying to kill Liam Neeson's son.

He has played more bad/dark roles than positive. What the hell have you been paying attention to?

german sniper....rumor has it they were the leading bad guys in that war...they got that rep after they bombed Pearl Harbor.

 

[LeftCoastPanther]

Will Danzig's song, Mother, be played at all in this movie?

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

The guy that wrote/directed this is the same guy that wrote/directed Pi, Requiem For A Dream, The Fountain, Black Swan, The Wrestler and Noah. This isn't what people are expecting unless they're familiar with and like his stuff.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

I won't put spoilers in here but there's a particularly brutal sequence that had at least 5 people leave the screening.

 

[pitt-girl]

Although I found Requiem for a Dream and Black Swan well done, I'm not a huge fan of Aronofsky. He is an actors director though, squeezing out great performances (Portman won an Oscar for Black Swan, Ellen Burstyn nommed for Requiem). His movies are definitely......odd.

Honestly not sure when/if I will see Mother!. Supposedly it is an allegory about God? I'd love to hear what others think if they see it.

 

[Swervin27]

He doesn't even know who Ed Harris is..

stop it, love this guy. I was the one, and probably only person, that liked The Abyss and The Right Stuff is one of my favorite movies..

actually he was the voice in the field of dreams too, I bet you didnt' know that..

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Although I found Requiem for a Dream and Black Swan well done, I'm not a huge fan of Aronofsky. He is an actors director though, squeezing out great performances (Portman won an Oscar for Black Swan, Ellen Burstyn nommed for Requiem). His movies are definitely......odd.

Honestly not sure when/if I will see Mother!. Supposedly it is an allegory about God? I'd love to hear what others think if they see it.

About a narcissistic creator/Creator that destroys everything that he adores and that adores him. Nothing is ever enough.

 

[pitt-girl]

stop it, love this guy. I was the one, and probably only person, that liked The Abyss and The Right Stuff is one of my favorite movies..

actually he was the voice in the field of dreams too, I bet you didnt' know that..

Loved The Abyss.

 

[pitt-girl]

About a narcissistic creator/Creator that destroys everything that he adores and that adores him. Nothing is ever enough.

Perhaps - some speculation that since Aronofsky is a vocal atheist, it is about God vs. the environment and human nature.

The whole thing sounds really bizarre and gory. I'm probably going to pass.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Perhaps - some speculation that since Aronofsky is a vocal atheist, it is about God vs. the environment and human nature.

The whole thing sounds really bizarre and gory. I'm probably going to pass.

Hmm. No. But, your on the right track with that thought.

 

[pitt-girl]

Hmm. No. But, your on the right track with that thought.

So a good friend just texted me and said she and her husband walked out of the movie. She said a bunch of people had left earlier, but she said there was a scene with a newborn that was so horrifying they jumped up and almost ran out.

Nuff said for me - not going. Not sure the point of movies like this. Art?

 

[RHS14]

"mother!" was.....eh.

Kinda like Aronofsky's last film "Noah" --- just.... eh.

Haha -- or as Max Browne would say like he did after the Spring Game: "It was kinda, BLEH." lol

BUT!! MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOLY SMOKES!! --->

actually he was the voice in the field of dreams too, I bet you didnt' know that..

WHAAAAAAAT???

"If you build it.......He will come....." I NEVER. KNEW. THAT. WAS. ED. HARRIS Have seen that film so many times and never even ASKED who did the voice?!

Hail to Pitt.

 

[RHS14]

Being a guy you're not ever going to "Shock" lol --- Aronofsky's best movie by far was "The Wrestler" --- watch if you missed it, great movie! By far his best!

But recently he's just trying to push 'boundaries' to drum-up interest, or even get-off that some people will walk out of the theater or something....maybe because he's just bored or insecure / unsure about his status after being the "Critical Darling" Director now for 10+ years.

mother! , if you don't get all caught-up or freaked-out at "Shock Value" imagery and events ---> is just.....okay, nothin' special lol.

Don't like his kinda Self-Adulating attitude though that is the Real Point of the film: "I'm an Artist --- My creations are what's most important!!" Jennifer Lawrence plays a 20+ years younger wife who follows her Man around like a dutiful and loyal puppy -- all she wants to do is serve him and please him (art imitates life???) .....but He cannot be hemmed-in, because his true Passion is his ART!! Woman and child must be sacrificed for ART!

 

[PerchMan]

Will Danzig's song, Mother, be played at all in this movie?

Hahaha, I click on this thread, thinking it was something about Danzig, realize it's not - feeling quasi-embarrassed that I even know the band Danzig. Now I feel vindicated.

 

[Saboteur]

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Ed Harris? He was a psycho serial killer in a movie with Sean Connery maybe 15 years ago (forget the title), he played a mobster in both the Firm and a History of Violence. He was friggin General Francis X. Hummel in the Rock and my god, one of the great movies of all time, he was the Irish Mobster Frankie Flannery. He was also the Russian sniper in The Enemy At the Gates. Gangster in Run All Night where he was trying to kill Liam Neeson's son.

He has played more bad/dark roles than positive. What the hell have you been paying attention to?

The Rock, circa 1996. He also plays a Rogue Army colonial leading a band of disenfranchised Iraq vets who seek to restore order by threatening the bay area with a toxic airborne chemical weapon.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Yeah... Brutal sequence with a newborn. As for Aronofsky. Loved Pi, Requiem and Black Swan. Noah is trash. Wrestler is pretty great. Fountain has its heart in the right place but just didn't work for me. Mother! was more good than bad for me. But, yes, felt much uglier than necessary.

 

[anon_d97v9o3a8b6xr]

Ed Harris semi bad guy in national treasure.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Don't like his kinda Self-Adulating attitude though that is the Real Point of the film: "I'm an Artist --- My creations are what's most important!!" Jennifer Lawrence plays a 20+ years younger wife who follows her Man around like a dutiful and loyal puppy -- all she wants to do is serve him and please him (art imitates life???) .....but He cannot be hemmed-in, because his true Passion is his ART!! Woman and child must be sacrificed for ART!

Irony being Aronofsky and Lawrence have been dating since filming mother! Pretty sure over a year now. And, just like the movie, he's 20+ years her senior. And, too, he's the "poet/creator" and she's his muse.

As for the last 30 minutes...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-30-minutes-of-mother/?utm_term=.fab2e92f0a16

 

[Fraliccrushedme]

One of the worst movies ever! Pretentious self indulgent BS. God is worshiped. Followers butcher his son and take communion. Followers try to destroy Mother Earth but She destroys them first.
I don't know the running time but it seemed like 4 hours. I was not entertained at any time during the movie. I almost asked for my 40 dollars back.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Yeah... Folks are not gonna like this one.

 

[pitt-girl]

Irony being Aronofsky and Lawrence have been dating since filming mother! Pretty sure over a year now. And, just like the movie, he's 20+ years her senior. And, too, he's the "poet/creator" and she's his muse.

As for the last 30 minutes...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-30-minutes-of-mother/?utm_term=.fab2e92f0a16

As an aside, I read a few weeks ago a critic was speculating that the ending was a dig at Rachel Weisz.

Not sure where he gets his funding or even how much his movies cost to produce, but after the disaster that was Noah (which was his "mainstream" movie), I have to believe it will get tougher.

 

[pitt-girl]

Being a guy you're not ever going to "Shock" lol --- Aronofsky's best movie by far was "The Wrestler" --- watch if you missed it, great movie! By far his best!

But recently he's just trying to push 'boundaries' to drum-up interest, or even get-off that some people will walk out of the theater or something....maybe because he's just bored or insecure / unsure about his status after being the "Critical Darling" Director now for 10+ years.

mother! , if you don't get all caught-up or freaked-out at "Shock Value" imagery and events ---> is just.....okay, nothin' special lol.

Don't like his kinda Self-Adulating attitude though that is the Real Point of the film: "I'm an Artist --- My creations are what's most important!!" Jennifer Lawrence plays a 20+ years younger wife who follows her Man around like a dutiful and loyal puppy -- all she wants to do is serve him and please him (art imitates life???) .....but He cannot be hemmed-in, because his true Passion is his ART!! Woman and child must be sacrificed for ART!

Agree about The Wrestler. I forgot he also made that movie. Don't think it was his best but definitely viewable.

 

[LeftCoastPanther]

The Wrestler was terrific. Rourke won the Golden Globe over Sean Penn, Brad Pitt and DiCaprio for his performance.

 

[Jakey_John]

So here's my thought. I believe in God but I don't get too upset with movies that are anti-religion because it would be foolish to think that Hollywood is going to depict it in a positive manner most of the time. There are a few notable exceptions obviously but that's not what I'm getting at.

If I were to conclude that people aren't going to like this movie not because of it's portrayal of God but rather because it's just tired and unoriginal am I correct?

If that's the case it sounds like most of the garbage Rob Zombie puts out except the first Halloween remake and the Devil's Rejects.

 

[Ski11585]

Ed Harris semi bad guy in national treasure.

And Westworld.

 

[Taft's Baby Hook]

Noah made $362M world wide on a $125M budget. Tack on $60M or so in P&A and it still makes a profit when you take into account all the other auxiliary revenues outside theatrical

Aronofsky can be brilliant at times...but also maddening. I saw mother! a few times (work related) and still find myself thinking about it quite a bit. It’s a movie that really can be discussed end on end, but the ending is so polarizing that it will never happen outside of the cinephile / film school crowd.

I remember watching Requiem in high school, found it amazing, made my friends watch it, and they all thought I desperately needed help, haha

My favorite Ed Harris role is THE ROCK, for what it’s worth

Awesome to see the movie talk always on the board. Keep it up Pitt-Girl and crew

 

[Taft's Baby Hook]

So here's my thought. I believe in God but I don't get too upset with movies that are anti-religion because it would be foolish to think that Hollywood is going to depict it in a positive manner most of the time. There are a few notable exceptions obviously but that's not what I'm getting at.

If I were to conclude that people aren't going to like this movie not because of it's portrayal of God but rather because it's just tired and unoriginal am I correct?

If that's the case it sounds like most of the garbage Rob Zombie puts out except the first Halloween remake and the Devil's Rejects.

Have to disagree with you on Zombie’s Halloween remake. What made the original so terrifying was the complete lack of backstory. It was a kid who murders his sister for no reason, gets sent to an insane asylum, breaks out and returns to his hometown. Again proceeds to kill at random. Basically just the wolves that are among us that can do unspeakable things. Carpenter’s score and camera work didn’t hurt either

We didn’t need Rob’s trailer park spin on Michael Myers. He cheapened the character. It was his typical uber violent, uber trashy, only the guy was wearing a white spray painted William Shatner mask

Made the Weinstein’s and Akkad’s some $$ but other than that he pretty much ruined that franchise. Universal is taking another crack at it though in 2019

 

[RHS14]

Awesome to see the movie talk always on the board. Keep it up Pitt-Girl and crew

Why Michael Bay to me will always have street Cred, no matter how bad people try to bash him for all his Transformers films having no value:

"The Rock" is one of the BEST action films EVER made



I always this ending too: Sean Connery gets away!! Mason was "vaporized" -- hey man just saved San Franciscans from getting hit with Nerve Gas, he earned a Pardon

Fort Walton, Kansas by Hans Zimmer:


Makes me proudly "Man Cry"

 

[pitt-girl]

Noah made $362M world wide on a $125M budget. Tack on $60M or so in P&A and it still makes a profit when you take into account all the other auxiliary revenues outside theatrical

Aronofsky can be brilliant at times...but also maddening. I saw mother! a few times (work related) and still find myself thinking about it quite a bit. It’s a movie that really can be discussed end on end, but the ending is so polarizing that it will never happen outside of the cinephile / film school crowd.

I remember watching Requiem in high school, found it amazing, made my friends watch it, and they all thought I desperately needed help, haha

My favorite Ed Harris role is THE ROCK, for what it’s worth

Awesome to see the movie talk always on the board. Keep it up Pitt-Girl and crew

I didn't realize Noah made a profit. Still sucked IMHO. What a waste of talent.

In the spirit of full disclosure - I have never seen The Rock. It came out just when I started having my babies back to back. I kind of lost a few years in the fog of life. (Well except for late night TV shows, sitting in a rocker, nursing. TMI? )

 

[RHS14]

In the spirit of full disclosure - I have never seen The Rock. It came out just when I started having my babies back to back. I kind of lost a few years in the fog of life.

Lol -- it is definitely worth a view! Great emotions in the film too, along with one of Hans Zimmer's absolute best soundtracks .

My absolute favorite 90's film actually is Conspiracy Theory with Julia Roberts, Mel Gibson, and Patrick Stewart.

Both those films hold up wonderfully even though they're 20 years old too!

 

[CCHS82]

stop it, love this guy. I was the one, and probably only person, that liked The Abyss and The Right Stuff is one of my favorite movies..

actually he was the voice in the field of dreams too, I bet you didnt' know that..

Swervin, have to ask.

Did you intentionally add the line "I bet you didn't know that" to your response above KNOWING that this line was used in the FOD as well when Costner was interviewing the locals about Moonlight Graham? If so, I applaud you. Nice interjection!

 

[big_country90]

The Rock is a great movie and Ed Harris is really good in it. He is a natural heel.