OT: Pgh needs a stadium
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yeah but you are only a ten minute walk from any park, and have the PPS for your kids in return!
Maybe true, but easily back doored, as with the money for the stadiums. But it wouldn't have to be all government funding. With the proper vision and business model (and cooperation from the govt on the really critical things, not obstruction, with things like zoning and eminent domain and the like)... private money would be substantial. Just a repeat of the Renaissance models.
I knew that and yes I did forget to include Paris.
All the more reason
BUILD THE WHEEL
Pgh gave it to the WORLD, it must have the Quintessential 21st Century wheel
Nobody is holding anybody hostage in Pittsburgh. If you don't like your taxes, leave. Everybody needs to pay, not just a select few.
Pittsburgh us doing just fine and the city needs to do all it can to keep the Steelers on the North Shore.
Pittsburgh us doing just fine and the city needs to do all it can to keep the Steelers on the North Shore.
You seem a bit... unsober ... this morning. Did you just reply to yourself? And repeatedly shouting to advocate something that already seems to be going to happen? Love the spirit though...
You guys can have your wheel, i hate the sensation being stuck at the top of them swinging in the wind.
Pitt and Oakland should take a page and set up a long meandering roller coaster like thing, like the El in Chicago but with tumbles and loops, that take the riders all around the periphery of campus. Start with the dramatic climb up Darragh St... one, two, three rotations around Sutherland ... swing around the frat house row, the hazing drunks can shake and shoot beer cans at the cars as they rumble by ... screaming drop beneath the VA down toward the chemistry building ... then meander around and about the lower campus. Different drop off pick up points of course, allow Pitt to end the cumbersome shuttles. Vision, people vision!
They are going to host Wrestlemania for a second time this year. They'll keep taking the chance of hosting it there since NYC is considered a "home" for WWE and Wrestlemania. From a spectator POV, going to a big game in a cold-weather city sucks. I went to the Super Bowl Detroit and while the people were awesome, it was too cold to do anything outside and difficult to get around. If I'm spending that much money, I want to go to Florida, New Orleans, Arizona, or California.
Dude I was funnin w you
Love the Roller coasters idea
Just not in the slum part of Oakland m
Btw I don’t drink.
n no shouting other than to have some fun.
LIghten up
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Denny was drafted by the Bears. He told me he was cut during training camp because Abe Gibron , Bears coach after George Halas, cut him because Denny had long hair. When Denny first met Gibron, Gibron asked an assistant who is the "Qu**r" with the long hair?" The assistant told him Ferris , halfback form Pittsburgh. Gibron said "Cut him"
120 yards long...
53 1/3 yards wide...
I think you will notice that these are the exact same dimensions of our field back at Hickory...
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I didn't click on this thread until now, but that would seem to be one hell of a retrofit!
Hey Temple....is the Owl's stadium dead?? They've been OK the last few years. Might help them with the pols.
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The designated location is at the edge of campus, and in keeping with tensions between the University and adjacent neighborhoods that date back to the days of "urban renewal", there is a vocal group of residents that is opposed. Said group has the ear of the local City Council member, Darrell Clarke, who is also Council President. Without Clarke on board, not a shovel is going in the ground. (What also didn't help was that the University President who originally proposed the stadium subsequently got fired by the Board of Trustees over supposedly unrelated matters, and his replacement hasn't been particularly adept at leveraging Clarke.)
The designated location is at the edge of campus, and in keeping with tensions between the University and adjacent neighborhoods that date back to the days of "urban renewal", there is a vocal group of residents that is opposed. Said group has the ear of the local City Council member, Darrell Clarke, who is also Council President. Without Clarke on board, not a shovel is going in the ground. (What also didn't help was that the University President who originally proposed the stadium subsequently got fired by the Board of Trustees over supposedly unrelated matters, and his replacement hasn't been particularly adept at leveraging Clarke.)
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Won't they complain about the dome?Well based on the unhinged yinzers on this board and in the comments in the trib and such... the Steelers should outline a deal... county and city will spring for a new Atlanta like palace... and the Rooneys will fire Tomlin and cut AB. What say yinz, haters?
I wish they would, and hope they become minority partners so the others can make decisions, like changing coaches sometimes.
FWIW -- I don't think "Free" stadiums for NFL owners is going to be an easy sell anywhere anymore. Lived in DC area my entire life -- the monstrosity known as FedEx Field was built by Jack Kent Cooke with his own money -- and Abe Pollin built the now Cap One Arena with his own cash... a rarity in those days (albeit both were basically given land and infrastructure by their respective municipal locations).
With declining interest in the NFL as a whole, the politics involved in the game now -- and even where the league is doing well "no shows" are on the rise because of the ease of staying home and watching it on the modern in home entertainment center -- I just don't see municipalities standing up and offering huge incentives for NFL teams... particularly in the Northeast/Midwest were taxes are high, and population issues continue to plague those markets.
DC area is still booming -- has never stopped booming -- and I don't think Dan Snyder is getting a free deal here.....
With declining interest in the NFL as a whole, the politics involved in the game now -- and even where the league is doing well "no shows" are on the rise because of the ease of staying home and watching it on the modern in home entertainment center -- I just don't see municipalities standing up and offering huge incentives for NFL teams... particularly in the Northeast/Midwest were taxes are high, and population issues continue to plague those markets.
DC area is still booming -- has never stopped booming -- and I don't think Dan Snyder is getting a free deal here.....
Normally yes. But areas that are booming have other things going on, so the luxury of telling a sports team to get bent. Pittsburgh is not one of those. The city's whole identity seems wrapped in the Steelers. They'd be one of the desperate ones to throw down more money to keep the team. Oh, there might be a good show put on about resisting it. And a referendum might even fail, as it did before. But it would get back doored. Like before. Because the same yinzers who might vote against it would still be outraged at the officials who would allow them to leave, and punish them at the NEXT election. And the officials know this well.
With two teams in Los Angeles and soon to be one in Las Vegas there's no longer any city a team can threaten to move too. Everyone knows a full time London team isn't going to happen, Toronto & the Province of Ontario isn't spending a dime on a stadium, the Cowboys & Texans will block any team that sniffs around San Antonio or Austin, San Diego doesn't seem that heartbroken that they lost the Chargers and no one there is spending a dime on a stadium, no one is going to give St. Louis a third shot at a team, once the Raiders of in Las Vegas the 49ers have total say of the Bay Area so no one is going to Oakland which also won't spend a dime on a stadium, Portland, OR is Seahawks territory and seemingly has no interest in a local pro team outside the Trail Blazers and Timbers, what's left places that are barely media markets like Tulsa or Omaha. Also Washington and Butler Counties don't have the $750 million of free money it now takes to land an NFL team, you can thank the good people of Las Vegas for that!
Business wise most NFL teams including the Patroits are banking on making the playoffs most seasons.
