OT - Phillies, Blue Jays and Lightning shut down facilities - Clemson reports 28 cases
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pittdan77
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For now, shut it down for awhile and move forward. Been saying this for awhile now but some on here are experts and say otherwise. But the tv $$$ etc ,give it a rest geeezzzzz.
Not at all. It’s going away. Stop testing there won’t be any cases.
Probably best to shut it down forever. We don’t need this. We should not have this in our new society.
No the new society should value humanity and due without sports for a season. Is that so much to ask? Concentrate more on getting back to work etc. Bread and circus can be put on hold. I look forward to attending Pitt basketball and football games but not going to mope and cry over it. Priorities come first and alot don't have theirs in the proper perspectives.
But sports is just unnecessary. We don’t need to have unnecessary things ever. Just making sure people prepare for life with less.
That means there are that many people who are thru it and no longer a threat.
Of that age group it’s more like 99.9%. Reports are a vast majority of cases are completely asymptomatic. As a society we are barreling towards accepting that the virus is here while taking precautions with our most vulnerable
It is interesting, because due to the contagion, this could mean half of a team couldn't participate for 2 weeks. What happens if this happens in the playoffs?
I could very well be mistaken, but I believe most programs are only testing symptomatic players during the season. Currently, they are testing every player as they arrive.
I believe that the NFL plans to test multiple times per week, but as testing becomes more frequent, it’s becoming apparent that the prevalence of this is much higher than we thought. Would not surprise me to see them reverse course and only test symptomatic players as well
Do you guys think most of the medical care these players receive on campus is superior than what they get at home?
SMF Might be right. The season might be best played without interruption if it starts in late winter early spring. That is providing there are vaccines and medicines that could mitigate this. I was optimistic about the season a week ago but recent spikes and Faucis recent statements make me wonder. Basketball might be in bigger trouble because it is played indoors.
If the hs football season were to start tomorrow, it would be played albeit without fans.
pittdan77
Athletic Director
There are 460,000 NCAA athletes in that age group. 1% of that is a big enough number, it seems kind of callous to be so dismissive about.
For the life of me, I cant understand why a football season MUST be played in the fall. No fans, tons of players missing games, gsmes being canceled. Just play in the winter/spring and if guys dont want to play because they want to get ready for the draft, fine. College football will survive without those 20 players.
So stats are constantly being changed but according to what I've seen. This age group has IFR of .0003%. This age group is asymptomatic 99.26% of the time.
Influenza has a .2% death rate for this age group. This is with a vaccine.
Influenza up until this point has been measured to be more deadly than Covid-19 for this age group.
Would we consider ending activities for this age group because of influenza?
I tend to believe that these athletes being closely monitored and having access to world class healthcare they would have even better outcomes than what is published. Not to mention, the transmission of this virus is being studied and it's hypothesized that the transmission outdoors is less than indoors. I'm trying to understand how playing football is anymore of a risk than this age group just living their day to day lives. Unless you're going to have them on total lockdown like we were months ago.
I'm not being callous. It's just risk analysis.
If we knew what we know now about this virus and from the jump the elderly and at-risk populations were quarantined, would we have a global crisis?
It’s not a global crisis anymore
Only a crisis in countries without coherent plans
pittdan77
Athletic Director
We don’t make decisions just based on who dies. The hospitalization rates, cost of care, and length of illness all matter, too. Several of these kids may end up with long term health issues. I get risk but nobody has enough information yet to do that.
The problem with COVID is that a lot of amateurs are making decisions for everyone because they’re bored with taking precautions and have convinced themselves its everyone else’s problem.
Do you really think that if all sports are canceled then the 460,000 NCAA athletes will just say, "Aw shucks. Our season's canceled. Guess I will social distance instead from home now?" No they would be out and about and be just as at risk or worse from the virus. NONE of the young people in my area have social distanced from day 1. And many NCAA athletes wouldn't have easy access to first class medical care, food, etc from home.
With a reasonable plan, NCAA athletes would be as safe if not safer participating in sports than staying home and NOT social distancing.
Now liability is a different story. They would have to work out those details out.
pittdan77
Athletic Director
Well, it would help if some of the adults in te room set a good example (wear masks, distance, take precautions) but some people think having these kids provide entertainment is more important.
The point is should schools risk their health and their families health for entertainment
Remember -they are expressly student athletes
So protecting students is the priority
Let the kids and their families decide with consultation from medical professionals. What do you think they would decide?
How is playing sports under controlled conditions with easy access to medical professionals, testing, etc less safe than them staying home and not social distancing anyway? Some of these athletes come from poor situations and packed homes. They have limited resources and limited access to medical services.
Of course its more safe for them to be in a controlled setting, getting tested every week or so but I don't think you can have any semblance of a season if entire teams have to be in quarantine at times. Like I said, Troy might wind up national champs after they go 12-0 on forfeits. This is so stupid. Move it to the 2nd semester and hope there's a vaccine by then.
99.9 actually not arguing for or against but world health now says .09 death rate for anyone under age 65. Thats 9 in 10k dpnt know the rates for those 18 to 24 but have to think its lower than that for college aged athletes.
