OT - Pirates and baseball draft

[JoseLind13]

Just saying. 2 guys out of 300+ didn't sign. Pirates had one of them.

You do realize 2016 was an anomaly with as record-setting for the number of signees in the 1st ten rounds? There had been unsigned 1st rounders every year since the CBA of 2012. Using 2016 as an incriminating example is very misleading. The slot max rules were created because of the Pirates free spending of the past.

I'm not sure where the 5th lowest spenders originated, but assuming it's true, the Pirates had among the best records in baseball for 3 years after the CBA slot rules, so that alone, coupled with the Appel non-signing, would make it impossible to be in the top half of the list of spenders.

I can understand anti-Pirates the MLB cheap spending rants, but this angle just doesn't make much sense.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I can understand anti-Pirates the MLB cheap spending rants, but this angle just doesn't make much sense.

Some people don't understand the way the draft works now.

 

[sherepower]

You have to be kidding right? Jordano knows the rules very well. He is a solid coach in every way shape and form. I played before he arrived, and wish I did play for the guy.

Lol..........game has passed him bye. Back to back to back 11th place finishes in the ACC is evidence.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Back to back to back 11th place finishes in the ACC is evidence.

3-15 in their last 18 conference games. With three weeks to go they were in great position to make the ACC tournament and then went 1-8 in their last nine.

 

[sherepower]

3-15 in their last 18 conference games. With three weeks to go they were in great position to make the ACC tournament and then went 1-8 in their last nine.

Believe me.... i know all about the late season collapses. However........the highest finish in the last 3 years. Playing in the ACC is 11th place.

Doesn't matter when and where they lost games. Finishing that low 3 years in a row screams to me a new man needs to be brought in. Hopefully, a lot of folks close to the baseball program gets their wish. I quess we shall see.

 

[pitt2533]

Nick Egnatuk from Jersey

Update, Nick Egnatuk Pitt recruit signed with Brewers for 500K so he is not coming to Pitt.

 

[ameoba defense]

I agree that there probably are times when they aren't batting their best hitter third, but that guy is at least close to the best hitter. In a run scoring environment like there currently is in college baseball playing for one run is almost always the wrong strategy. Unless the guy hitting is a truly awful hitter, sacrifice bunting in the first inning of a game is always the wrong strategy. And even if the guy batting third isn't your best hitter, he certainly isn't awful enough for bunting to be the smart play.

In MLB right now the break even point for whether a guy should sacrifice bunt or not is a less than .200 batting average (I don't know the current exact number, but it's less than .200). In college baseball, more runs are scored on average than in MLB. That means that the break even point in college baseball is well less than .200.

There is a reason that with the exception of pitchers in the National League sacrifice bunting has mostly disappeared MLB. Because other than someone who hits like a pitcher, it is a losing play to sacrifice bunt. A lot of college managers haven't caught up to that yet, and Pitt has one of the worst examples of them all. Like I said, in the Georgia Tech game the color commentator assumed that the Pitt hitter was bunting on his own, because "nobody bunts in a situation like this." Nobody except Joe Jordano.

Analytics has decisively shown the bunt to mostly be a bad strategy. As has been pointed out, an out has been proven to be much more valuable than advancing a base. This is also why players don't attempt to steal nearly as much. Unless you have a high success rate, the extra bases are less valuable than the outs lost. Of course the situation comes into play, which will determine at what point a steal, or a bunt is called for, but it's much less than what was thought for over 100 years.

 

[BradlyPitt]

pirates really missed the boat on mckay playing in their back yard and setting national records

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

pirates really missed the boat on mckay playing in their back yard and setting national records

Yeah, why didn't they draft him with their first round pick? Man, that would have been a steal.

 

[BradlyPitt]

Yeah, why didn't they draft him with their first round pick? Man, that would have been a steal.

they could've gotten him almost anywhere

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

they could've gotten him almost anywhere

Yep. They could have gotten him with the first pick in the draft, or the second, or the third.

Of course they didn't actually have one of those picks, but still.

 

[BradlyPitt]

Yep. They could have gotten him with the first pick in the draft, or the second, or the third.

Of course they didn't actually have one of those picks, but still.

uh i'm saying they could've drafted him when he was eligible in high school

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

uh i'm saying they could've drafted him when he was eligible in high school

Sure, they could have, but it would have been a wasted pick because he told everyone before the draft that he was going to college and wasn't going to sign a pro contract. He got picked in the 30-somethingth round because no one was willing to waste a higher pick on a guy that wasn't going to sign.

With the current draft rules teams know how much money it is going to take to sign guys before the draft. When guys tell teams they aren't going to sign no matter what they don't get picked until late in the draft when the team can take a flyer on a guy knowing that there is less than a 1% chance it's going to work. Because a 30-somethingth round draft pick is nothing more than a lottery ticket.

Would it really make you feel better if the Pirates drafted McKay in the 32nd round and he didn't sign with them, just like the Padres took him in whatever round it was and he didn't sign with them?