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[Pitt is #1]

I was just explaining how there are just as many zombies on your side as you claim are on the other.

And realistically, that’s why these debates on here are a waste of time. No minds are being changed. I eventually get sucked into them and waste bunch of time on here too when I should be spending time with my family and focusing on work. It’s all dumb!

I don’t disagree Biden has lost a step and should have stepped down. That said, he wasn’t in that condition when people elected him. And I’m not sure how well known to the public his decline was made. I don’t think the public knew until the debate with Trump. At that point, two things were obvious. Someone else was really running the show on his behalf. Secondly, by the time you got all of your ducks in a row to put him out to pasture. He was going to be out anyways. So what would the point of it be?

 

[Richard A]

I did.

What organization is Bradenton in? And what’s a marauder? Jesus, they might be worse than a California penal league team

Wondering if there is a worse team in sports, then the single A affiliates of the Pittsburgh pirates?

Why? Because Nutbag won’t hire good scouts and coaches. The Pirates always pick in the top five in the draft and still can’t get right most of the time. It’s Nutbag being CHEAP as usual.

 

[pghsonj1325]

I don’t disagree Biden has lost a step and should have stepped down. That said, he wasn’t in that condition when people elected him. And I’m not sure how well known to the public his decline was made. I don’t think the public knew until the debate with Trump. At that point, two things were obvious. Someone else was really running the show on his behalf. Secondly, by the time you got all of your ducks in a row to put him out to pasture. He was going to be out anyways. So what would the point of it be?

So how did America respond? Voting in a guy older than him than when Biden took over lol

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

 

[KennyHeisman8]

Palestine didn't invade Israel

Hamas, a terrorist group, attacked Israel. Which isn't okay. They should all be killed

The issue was the fact that Israel was just spraying bombs on Palestinians schools, camps, and hospitals with no regard for human life in retaliation.

Israel has a right to defend itself exactly the same as the Ukraine does. But the power in the Israel vs Palestine is FAR different than Ukraine vs Russia.

If Ukraine attacked Russia and provoked them? Not our problem. But Russia invaded Ukraine. The world super power invaded a sovereign country for a land grab.

This isn't a good comparison at all. Israel is the "super power" in comparison to Palestine

Israel is also an extremely complex situation. They have been instigating for years, and if you talk to some of the “settlers” they come off as truly reprehensible people.

This isn’t excusing hamas, but Israel is far from innocent here and to your point there is zero comparison to Ukraine.

 

[KennyHeisman8]

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What is this?

 

[Pitt is #1]

So how did America respond? Voting in a guy older than him than when Biden took over lol

I know. Pretty dumb.

 

[PittPoker]

Israel is also an extremely complex situation. They have been instigating for years, and if you talk to some of the “settlers” they come off as truly reprehensible people.

This isn’t excusing hamas, but Israel is far from innocent here and to your point there is zero comparison to Ukraine.

That's bullshit. Israel didn't attack itself at that dance festival. Hamas murdered, raped and tortured hundreds of innocent Israelis trying to enjoyable music dance festival. Then they took hundreds more as hostages and tortured and killed some of them.

To try and claim Israel and Hames are equal here is disgusting.

 

[KennyHeisman8]

That's bullshit. Israel didn't attack itself at that dance festival. Hamas murdered, raped and tortured hundreds of innocent Israelis trying to enjoyable music dance festival. Then they took hundreds more as hostages and tortured and killed some of them.

To try and claim Israel and Hames are equal here is disgusting.

Not saying they are equal, but I do consider Israel a borderline terrorist state.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

You very clearly have a massive issue with Muslims that I can't possibly argue you out of. Just maybe tone down the islamaphobia during Ramadan

I don't give a shit what Amy Mek - who is VERY clearly a white christian nationalist and a fearmongerer - thinks

Founder of Rise, Align, Ignite, Reclaim? Yeah that's DEFINITELY not the exact thing she's fighting against just the Islamic version lol

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

I don’t disagree Biden has lost a step and should have stepped down. That said, he wasn’t in that condition when people elected him. And I’m not sure how well known to the public his decline was made. I don’t think the public knew until the debate with Trump. At that point, two things were obvious. Someone else was really running the show on his behalf. Secondly, by the time you got all of your ducks in a row to put him out to pasture. He was going to be out anyways. So what would the point of it be?

How do you know? He hid in his home in Delaware because of Covid.

 

[Pitt is #1]

How do you know? He hid in his home in Delaware because of Covid.

Just about everyone hid in their homes because of Covid.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Not saying they are equal, but I do consider Israel a borderline terrorist state.

Well while I do agree Israel has an outsized influence on the world's politics considering its size and GDP, it is also the one country where all neighbors would kill it if they could. So I understand their hyper vigilism.

 

[PittPoker]

Not saying they are equal, but I do consider Israel a borderline terrorist state.

Wow, never considered you an anti-Semite but here we are.

 

[pghsonj1325]

Not saying they are equal, but I do consider Israel a borderline terrorist state.

That’s crazy

Israel has gone too far in their retaliation but a terrorist state? Cmon

 

[pghsonj1325]

Well while I do agree Israel has an outsized influence on the world's politics considering its size and GDP, it is also the one country where all neighbors would kill it if they could. So I understand their hyper vigilism.

Yeah there’s plenty of nuance in here between “went too far” and “they’re all terrorists”

 

[PittPoker]

That’s crazy

Israel has gone too far in their retaliation but a terrorist state? Cmon

He's probably been brainwashed by Jew hating tik tok influencers. If you look at polling it's the younger generation that gets its news from tik tok and Instagram that believe this anti-Israel propaganda the most.

 

[pghsonj1325]

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You’re a moron

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/car-drives-into-crowd-german-city-mannheim-newspaper-reports-2025-03-03/

The driver was a 40 year old German

 

[Richard A]

Israel is also an extremely complex situation. They have been instigating for years, and if you talk to some of the “settlers” they come off as truly reprehensible people.

This isn’t excusing hamas, but Israel is far from innocent here and to your point there is zero comparison to Ukraine.

Understand the Palestinians had numerous times since 1948 to have a peace treaty with Israel and turned it down even sharing Jerusalem. But that wasn’t good enough. Know one thing the Jews were in Cannon/Israel 1,000 years before the Arabs came around. The Jews were always living there even before becoming a state. Is Israel always right, no. But, when you’re surrounded by your enemies you have to do what you have to do to survive. Hamas, PLO and the rest of the terrorist organizations want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people. These organizations are afraid of the peace treaty between Israel and Saudi Arabia because that will be the end of these organizations. I have been told by people who have travelled to Israel said when you look at land where the Palestinians live and the land is barren. In Israel they learned how to grow crops and orchards by drip irrigation. With a peace treaty the Gazan people could have the same thing just like Israel shares water and irrigation and oil with Jordan. But the PLO and Hamas refuse this and therefore their people suffer greatly. Where do you think the people in Jordan, Egypt, and others in that region go for medical treatment? Israel.

 

[pghsonj1325]

He's probably been brainwashed by Jew hating tik tok influencers. If you look at polling it's the younger generation that gets its news from tik tok and Instagram that believe this anti-Israel propaganda the most.

Kenny is damn near 40. I’m the 20 something and I don’t get any anti-Israel propaganda on my TikTok

 

[PittPoker]

Kenny is damn near 40. I’m the 20 something and I don’t get any anti-Israel propaganda on my TikTok

Glad you don't but GenZ believes that crap the most out of any age group breakdown.

 

[Richard A]

Not saying they are equal, but I do consider Israel a borderline terrorist state.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Better to keep your mouth shut than opening it and looking stupid. Read history.

 

[pghsonj1325]

Glad you don't but GenZ believes that crap the most out of any age group breakdown.

The generation that’s on TikTok is influenced by TikTok? Crazy notion

I guess where I depart from it is why is it “crap”

It’s pretty inarguable that what Israel is doing is a targeted attack on the native Palestinian population disguised as a hunt for Hamas operatives

I have no doubt Israel is acting in what it believes to be its own self defense, but can you really tell me they’re not being a little too reckless in their endeavor?

 

[Charles De Mar]

So how did America respond? Voting in a guy older than him than when Biden took over lol

There’s a difference. Instead of age discriminating here, maybe consider that Biden was kept in a basement and carefully managed during the campaign and during his presidency. There was plenty to hide. He took minimal questions from the press. Trump has taken 5000% the questions from the Press to this point in his Presidency. He’s still sharp. Age is just a number.

 

[PittPoker]

The generation that’s on TikTok is influenced by TikTok? Crazy notion

I guess where I depart from it is why is it “crap”

It’s pretty inarguable that what Israel is doing is a targeted attack on the native Palestinian population disguised as a hunt for Hamas operatives

I have no doubt Israel is acting in what it believes to be its own self defense, but can you really tell me they’re not being a little too reckless in their endeavor?

I don't support Netanyahu but I think after October 7th last year when Hamas attacked that music festival, Israel shouldn't be the one being criticized.

 

[pghsonj1325]

I don't support Netanyahu but I think after October 7th last year when Hamas attacked that music festival, Israel shouldn't be the one being criticized.

It was October 7th of 2023. They’ve been at this witch hunt a long time

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

trump focusing on our borders and relaxing a bit on russia, ukraine and israel is a positive sign. of course actions speak louder than words but lets hope there is some truth to this tweet.

 

[pghsonj1325]

There’s a difference. Instead of age discriminating here, maybe consider that Biden was kept in a basement and carefully managed during the campaign and during his presidency. There was plenty to hide. He took minimal questions from the press. Trump has taken 5000% the questions from the Press to this point in his Presidency. He’s still sharp. Age is just a number.

I think that’s fair. I’m just saying age decline happens rapidly. Biden certainly didn’t hide during the 2020 campaign. The 2024 one absolutely.

But let’s not act like Trump doesn’t have some serious indicators of mental and physical decline. The limp, the bruising, many times just getting lost in thought during his rallies and slurring words and incoherent messaging

He’s FAR sharper than Biden. That is not the argument I’m making to be clear. But he isn’t the same he was in 2016.

 

[Richard A]

One more thing to remember about Israel. They many nukes on land and on submarines in the Mediterranean Sea. I actually knew the 2 people who made the uranium for the nuclear weapons. They lived in Oakland. The one person worked on the Manhattan project and the other delivered the uranium to Israel. There was an investigation by the FBI in the 80’s in regards to this case and never were able to prove anything. But the contamination from the uranium in the plant were this was happening in Apollo many people suffered from cancer for years.

Israel isn’t afraid to use the bombs. Moshe Dyan the former defense minister was once asked why don’t you start a war with U.S. and when the U.S. wins they’ll rebuild the country. Dyan answered “what if we win”. So they are serious.

 

[pghsonj1325]

trump focusing on our borders and relaxing a bit on russia, ukraine and israel is a positive sign. of course actions speak louder than words but lets hope there is some truth to this tweet.

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There have been lower rate of deportations in the first month of Trump than during Biden’s final year

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

 

[PittPoker]

It was October 7th of 2023. They’ve been at this witch hunt a long time

Sorry meant 2023.

 

[Richard A]

Sorry meant 2023.

It’s not a witch hunt. Hamas and its ilk will never stop until they are completely destroyed. People especially the young generation better read and understand September 11,2001. They don’t teach that in schools today. Ask those who lived through that how pissed they were and everyone supported Bush going into Iraq and Afghanistan. I know you’re going to say how did that turn out. It didn’t matter at the time.

 

[BurghGuy68]

trump focusing on our borders and relaxing a bit on russia, ukraine and israel is a positive sign. of course actions speak louder than words but lets hope there is some truth to this tweet.

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Yeah take the heat off his obvious ties as a Russian asset. We all saw the mobile style hit by him and the couch f$%&er...while Rubio slouched in his chair like he didn't want to be there.

Funny opening for SNL on Sat if you missed it...

 

[pghsonj1325]

It’s not a witch hunt. Hamas and its ilk will never stop until they are completely destroyed. People especially the young generation better read and understand September 11,2001. They don’t teach that in schools today. Ask those who lived through that how pissed they were and everyone supported Bush going into Iraq and Afghanistan. I know you’re going to say how did that turn out. It didn’t matter at the time.

You think they don’t teach 9/11 in schools today?

Did they teach it when you were in school? Lol

Also, your takeaway from me saying Israel is being too aggressive to the point where it’s causing needless deaths of the innocent in the attempt to kill terrorists is to ignore the fact that your retaliatory example did exactly the same thing on a larger scale and entered us into a decades long war? And then justifying it because it didn’t matter at the time because of the emotional response of one singular atrocity leading to a disproportionate response outweighed a calculated campaign strictly to kill those responsible?

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

There have been lower rate of deportations in the first month of Trump than during Biden’s final year

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

lol, stop with this dumb argument. you are well aware that biden's administration was a f*cking abortion when it came to open borders and allowing an insane amount of illegals into this country. Christ almighty we saw videos of it for months upon months...


dont even go there, you look beyond foolish going down that road. even kamala said on the campaign trail that if elected, she will fix the border. hilarious that our border czar used that as a campaign promise but she did..

again man, stick with other arguing points because the border one is one that dems will lose every single time..

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

You think they don’t teach 9/11 in schools today?

Did they teach it when you were in school? Lol

Also, your takeaway from me saying Israel is being too aggressive to the point where it’s causing needless deaths of the innocent in the attempt to kill terrorists is to ignore the fact that your retaliatory example did exactly the same thing on a larger scale and entered us into a decades long war? And then justifying it because it didn’t matter at the time because of the emotional response of one singular atrocity leading to a disproportionate response outweighed a calculated campaign strictly to kill those responsible?

you think public schools blame it on islamic terrorism? You really think that's what they are teaching in schools in this country?

 

[pghsonj1325]

lol, stop with this dumb argument. you are well aware that biden's administration was a f*cking abortion when it came to open borders and allowing an insane amount of illegals into this country. Christ almighty we saw videos of it for months upon months...


dont even go there, you look beyond foolish going down that road. even kamala said on the campaign trail that if elected, she will fix the border. hilarious that our border czar used that as a campaign promise but she did..

again man, stick with other arguing points because the border one is one that dems will lose every single time..

So your response to me saying a fact is to then argue that the worse statistical month is somehow better?

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Yeah take the heat off his obvious ties as a Russian asset. We all saw the mobile style hit by him and the couch f$%&er...while Rubio slouched in his chair like he didn't want to be there.

Funny opening for SNL on Sat if you missed it...

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snl skit? Yeah, im not a 14 year old or 75 so unfortunately im not the demographic watching this and i missed it.

 

[pghsonj1325]

you think public schools blame it on islamic terrorism? You really think that's what they are teaching in schools in this country?

Yes lol. I was actually in the schools when we were taught that

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

So your response to me saying a fact is to then argue that the worse statistical month is somehow better?

you really want to compare numbers of illegals both entering this country and being deported? I"d love to..


i love libs, one one side they are arguing that illegals arent here, arent getting free housing, arent an issue and then a minute later, they are screaming about ICE and those evil republicans for deporting illegals from this country..


which one is it? you cant play both sides.