OT: PSU fans' reaction to Hamlin

[pittpitt]

A very quick scan of the McBoard shows that PSU fans generally feel that losing Hamlin to Pitt isn't a big deal because it wasn't a position of need for them since they return the vast majority of their CB's next year.

Perspective: PSU's D against the pass looked very good on paper, but a lot of that has to do with the league they're in (3 of top-8, 6 of top-16, and 7 of top-23 NCAA teams with lowest passing yards against were in the run-happy B10). Only one player on PSU's 3-deep at the two CB's position is a senior, but he was also the only one to achieve mention on the B10's All-Conference teams (Trevor Williams - honorable mention). Of the other five returning CB's on the three-deep, only one was a 4* recruit (freshman John Reid), although another 4* freshman CB was redshirted this year (Garrett Taylor). Both are shorter than Hamlin. And to clarify, all the rest of their returning young CB's were 3* or 2* recruits.

Summarizing all this: PSU's passing D looked good on paper, but it was more a result of their league and the tremendous pressure their excellent DL put on QB's, and not their DB's who weren't earning individual accolades. Most of the rest were middle-of-the-road recruits (not saying they won't be good, just stating that unit is hardly in a position to turn their noses up at 4* recruits) except for 2 true freshmen. Hamlin would have been their third 4* CB recruit on the roster, and the tallest one at that. It should go without saying that college football, even the B10, continues to move more toward a passing game so DB depth is gaining importance.

Ultimately, they're completely full of crap in stating they had no use for a 4* CB, especially one from Western PA, an area of high importance to PSU for establishing recruiting pipelines.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

A very quick scan of the McBoard shows that PSU fans generally feel that losing Hamlin to Pitt isn't a big deal because it wasn't a position of need for them since they return the vast majority of their CB's next year.

Perspective: PSU's D against the pass looked very good on paper, but a lot of that has to do with the league they're in (3 of top-8, 6 of top-16, and 7 of top-23 NCAA teams with lowest passing yards against were in the run-happy B10). Only one player on PSU's 3-deep at the two CB's position is a senior, but he was also the only one to achieve mention on the B10's All-Conference teams (Trevor Williams - honorable mention). Of the other five returning CB's on the three-deep, only one was a 4* recruit (freshman John Reid), although another 4* freshman CB was redshirted this year (Garrett Taylor). Both are shorter than Hamlin. And to clarify, all the rest of their returning young CB's were 3* or 2* recruits.

Summarizing all this: PSU's passing D looked good on paper, but it was more a result of their league and the tremendous pressure their excellent DL put on QB's, and not their DB's who weren't earning individual accolades. Most of the rest were middle-of-the-road recruits (not saying they won't be good, just stating that unit is hardly in a position to turn their noses up at 4* recruits) except for 2 true freshmen. Hamlin would have been their third 4* CB recruit on the roster, and the tallest one at that. It should go without saying that college football, even the B10, continues to move more toward a passing game so DB depth is gaining importance.

Ultimately, they're completely full of crap in stating they had no use for a 4* CB, especially one from Western PA, an area of high importance to PSU for establishing recruiting pipelines.

Well, that will be put to the test against Pitt on September 10th, followed by Temple, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State, and Michigan State.

Additionally, it does not explain how Two coaches were hired with Central Catholic Backgrounds and could not recruit Wheeler or Hamlin? Nor hold onto Clariton's Mathews?

Furthermore, it fails to explain how Franklin went after Non-Power Conference Recruits in Shelton and Darien while Michigan, Ohio State, Pitt, and WVU are trying closing with remaining 5 Star & 4 Star Recruits with each of them as one of Two Finalists and not Penn State?

Finally, they are upset Neal will visit WVU after Signing Day and fails to explain How Ohio State, Michigan, and Michigan State have beaten them badly on the field and in Recruiting with Pitt, Wisconsin, and Nebraska right with Penn State?

This is all coming from the same Fan Base that thought Franklin would Dominate the Region, Big Ten, and now must revise their 5 Year Plan? Sounds like the old Stalin Soviet Union 5 Years Plans that keep changing when they can't explain being Dominated and are falling apart being built on a Culture of Cover Ups, Myths, and Slogans???

Good Coaching can be seen and not by holding up a Finger saying We Are Better.....BUT......and does not need 5 Years to prove it?????

 

[ratking17]

Wait. I swear I heard somewhere that sanctions had destroyed their depth. I could be wrong about that psu fans discussing sanctions.

 

[Saboteur]

A very quick scan of the McBoard shows that PSU fans generally feel that losing Hamlin to Pitt isn't a big deal because it wasn't a position of need for them since they return the vast majority of their CB's next year.

Perspective: PSU's D against the pass looked very good on paper, but a lot of that has to do with the league they're in (3 of top-8, 6 of top-16, and 7 of top-23 NCAA teams with lowest passing yards against were in the run-happy B10). Only one player on PSU's 3-deep at the two CB's position is a senior, but he was also the only one to achieve mention on the B10's All-Conference teams (Trevor Williams - honorable mention). Of the other five returning CB's on the three-deep, only one was a 4* recruit (freshman John Reid), although another 4* freshman CB was redshirted this year (Garrett Taylor). Both are shorter than Hamlin. And to clarify, all the rest of their returning young CB's were 3* or 2* recruits.

Summarizing all this: PSU's passing D looked good on paper, but it was more a result of their league and the tremendous pressure their excellent DL put on QB's, and not their DB's who weren't earning individual accolades. Most of the rest were middle-of-the-road recruits (not saying they won't be good, just stating that unit is hardly in a position to turn their noses up at 4* recruits) except for 2 true freshmen. Hamlin would have been their third 4* CB recruit on the roster, and the tallest one at that. It should go without saying that college football, even the B10, continues to move more toward a passing game so DB depth is gaining importance.

Ultimately, they're completely full of crap in stating they had no use for a 4* CB, especially one from Western PA, an area of high importance to PSU for establishing recruiting pipelines.

They were 7-6 for the second year in a row and have a death grip on 4th place in their division.
Results suggest they have many needs. Just show your PSU "friends" an Ohio State logo if you want to see them wet themselves.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

They were 7-6 for the second year in a row and have a death grip on 4th place in their division.
Results suggest they have many needs. Just show your PSU "friends" an Ohio State logo if you want to see them wet themselves.

UGA ripped their secondary, Temple ripped their secondary, other teams ripped their secondary, they are "freakin" NITTTER LIARS. Take another sip of coffee and calm down. They should upgrade every position but they cant so they lie.
The whole football program is built on deception and lies going back to high water pants Joe!
They have a network of boosters that in my opinion has access to Thon money to "help" with the recruiting process. Remember all the Thon money is unaccounted for cash!

 

[ncyajleel]

If they didn't need Hamlin, then why were they recruiting him? I just love the PoSU rationalizations.

• Sanctions
• He wasn't PoSU material
• It wasn't a position of need
• Paterno couldn't have known

It must be hard for them to sleep at nights.

 

[DruidTM]

UGA ripped their secondary, Temple ripped their secondary, other teams ripped their secondary, they are "freakin" NITTTER LIARS. Take another sip of coffee and calm down. They should upgrade every position but they cant so they lie.
The whole football program is built on deception and lies going back to high water pants Joe!
They due have a network of boosters that in my opinion has access to Thon money to "help" with the recruiting process. Remember all the Thon money is unaccounted for cash!

And Smails is flat out lying about Narduzzi and staff re: Sanders.... I've pointed out the fabrication more than once now... I'll probably get banned again for another 16 years....for telling the truth...Rashard Casey discussion was reason for last ban...

 

[pittbb80]

Most of them were confident that Hamlin was theirs because he did the Jimmy one finger act especially that Lionrevival moron. Now that they know the finger was basically telling them where to stick it......they pull the standard UPS crap of talking down the recruit.....Not a sicker more delusional fan base in the country

PS I love how the DUzz's success on the recruiting trail is torturing them........he owns their heads

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

A very quick scan of the McBoard shows that PSU fans generally feel that losing Hamlin to Pitt isn't a big deal because it wasn't a position of need for them since they return the vast majority of their CB's next year.

Perspective: PSU's D against the pass looked very good on paper, but a lot of that has to do with the league they're in (3 of top-8, 6 of top-16, and 7 of top-23 NCAA teams with lowest passing yards against were in the run-happy B10). Only one player on PSU's 3-deep at the two CB's position is a senior, but he was also the only one to achieve mention on the B10's All-Conference teams (Trevor Williams - honorable mention). Of the other five returning CB's on the three-deep, only one was a 4* recruit (freshman John Reid), although another 4* freshman CB was redshirted this year (Garrett Taylor). Both are shorter than Hamlin. And to clarify, all the rest of their returning young CB's were 3* or 2* recruits.

Summarizing all this: PSU's passing D looked good on paper, but it was more a result of their league and the tremendous pressure their excellent DL put on QB's, and not their DB's who weren't earning individual accolades. Most of the rest were middle-of-the-road recruits (not saying they won't be good, just stating that unit is hardly in a position to turn their noses up at 4* recruits) except for 2 true freshmen. Hamlin would have been their third 4* CB recruit on the roster, and the tallest one at that. It should go without saying that college football, even the B10, continues to move more toward a passing game so DB depth is gaining importance.

Ultimately, they're completely full of crap in stating they had no use for a 4* CB, especially one from Western PA, an area of high importance to PSU for establishing recruiting pipelines.

They had one of the best Defensive Lines in college football. Top 5 at least. And their 3 best players from the DLine are moving on to the NFL draft. I would think this will impact that defense.

 

[TD_6082]

Do you really think that was one of the top 5 DLs in college football or do you think the competition they faced had a little to do with their success. They were a solid unit, and no doubt the strength of their team, but I don't think they were that good.

 

[pittdan77]

They only have one thread devoted to PSU football any more. Here's what the board looks like any given day...

• Pitt sucks
• O$U/Michigan/B1G cheats
• Hating their BOT/President/AD
• Lawn care/plumbing
• Movie reviews
• English Soccer (?)
• Somebody got busted somewhere and nobody got fired
• Why they hate the NCAA
• Why everything PSU is better than everyone else.

Same thing every single day.

 

[TD_6082]

Thats a pretty good variety.

 

[fitzburgh]

They had one of the best Defensive Lines in college football. Top 5 at least. And their 3 best players from the DLine are moving on to the NFL draft. I would think this will impact that defense.

LOL those cult bastards tried to get at me with Zettel being better than Donald...I missed the Bednarik, Outland, Nagurski and Lombardi trophies he won.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Wait. I swear I heard somewhere that sanctions had destroyed their depth. I could be wrong about that psu fans discussing sanctions.

Yeah - it's an obvious pattern: the Nits revert to "The Sanctions Excuse" whenever it's convenient.

They use The Big Three topics in most of their defensive posts: The Sanctions, Attendance, and THON. Those three topics cover all of their defensive arguments. Strip them of those, and they have nothing else to post about - other than what pittdan77 mentioned.

 

[raleighpanther]

Yes, that about sums up their board.
To be fair though, there are a few rational heads over there who challenge the rationalizers. They pointed out last night that to be a good team, you don't just recruit to positions of need, you recruit great players at all positions all the time. So, they needed Hamlin because he is a great corner, regardless of whether they have a gaping need there at the moment or not.

It will be interesting to see what the 2017 recruits are thinking about Penn State going forward. The shine had already come off the place for the 2016 recruits, as they lost way more than they gained in recruiting since the season started. (I suppose the Temple game could be used as a marker.)

For Pitt, we know that the 2017 recruits have had their eyes opened in a positive way for the future of Pitt. Big junior day this weekend, just 3 days after the impressive close to the 2016 class. The energy should be off the charts. Pitt is not only going to do well with WPIAL recruits in 2017, but with big time recruits across the east.

The bar has been raised. Ford's commitment was huge, and more like him should follow. Exciting times. Meanwhile, on the PSU board, some are arguing that the sky is falling, while others are keeping a stiff upper lip and arguing its not. But the ceiling on the discussion is that the sky is not falling.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Whitehead
Hamlin
Coleman
Garner
Campbell
Miller
Ford
Loe
Wade?


yep ...DB recruitment is alive and well!

 

[wbrpanther]

A very quick scan of the McBoard shows that PSU fans generally feel that losing Hamlin to Pitt isn't a big deal because it wasn't a position of need for them since they return the vast majority of their CB's next year.

Perspective: PSU's D against the pass looked very good on paper, but a lot of that has to do with the league they're in (3 of top-8, 6 of top-16, and 7 of top-23 NCAA teams with lowest passing yards against were in the run-happy B10). Only one player on PSU's 3-deep at the two CB's position is a senior, but he was also the only one to achieve mention on the B10's All-Conference teams (Trevor Williams - honorable mention). Of the other five returning CB's on the three-deep, only one was a 4* recruit (freshman John Reid), although another 4* freshman CB was redshirted this year (Garrett Taylor). Both are shorter than Hamlin. And to clarify, all the rest of their returning young CB's were 3* or 2* recruits.

Summarizing all this: PSU's passing D looked good on paper, but it was more a result of their league and the tremendous pressure their excellent DL put on QB's, and not their DB's who weren't earning individual accolades. Most of the rest were middle-of-the-road recruits (not saying they won't be good, just stating that unit is hardly in a position to turn their noses up at 4* recruits) except for 2 true freshmen. Hamlin would have been their third 4* CB recruit on the roster, and the tallest one at that. It should go without saying that college football, even the B10, continues to move more toward a passing game so DB depth is gaining importance.

Ultimately, they're completely full of crap in stating they had no use for a 4* CB, especially one from Western PA, an area of high importance to PSU for establishing recruiting pipelines.

"No big loss because we are set in the secondary" in cultspeak translates to "Pitt kicked our ass on this one as they will many more times in the future" in realworldspeak.

 

[Pittx9]

That's just flat out insane. I guess Ohio State should have just left it at having Braxton Miller at QB, no reason to bring in the other 2 kids right? Just one of many reasons PSU will never get to OSU's level. This isn't the NFL Draft, you take the best players you can get. They didn't just offer the kid to see what would happen, he's a great player, so they wanted him. Same as every other school that offered the kid.