Guess it's time Beaver Stadium be replaced or upgraded.
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...r-replace-Beaver-Stadium/stories/201510010173
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...r-replace-Beaver-Stadium/stories/201510010173
OT: Replacing the Erector Set
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It will be upgraded and renovated at great cost. Their alumni will not go for a tear down. Hail to Pitt!
Yea, my guess is that they raise an obscene amount of money, like $500 million basically keep the shell of Beaver Stadium (like Soldier Field) but rebuild the inside completely. Probably a good idea. They print money.
Nice that they choose to show a photo of a not-full stadium, that is very un-PG like towards UPS.
Then they'll have their excuse to raise the ticket prices - again.
Maybe their BIG plan is to share a new (or renovated) stadium with the Steelers, given that if they can draw 107,000 to watch that crap, the Steelers would surely draw 150,000.
That's just fans dressed up like empty seats. I know, we shouldn't talk. But they ought to zip it about the 107,000 strong. and quit crying about needing 8 home games every year. they get more fans in 4 games than the vast majority of D1 schools get all year. And charge way more for those seats.
Yes, I listened to a discussion on an Altoona radio station tonight. Very few callers thought it was a nice place....old... needs bath rooms upgraded, has a lot of bench seating.....to squeeze the most people in. A few callers dislike the erector set steel showing want to cover that up. And many thought there was too many seats. Trying to squeeze to many people in. I just laughed to myself about the bench seating.....maybe we should be thankful for what we have at heinz field.....ups stadium is not as wonderful place as many ups fans would like everyone to think.....but hey They have 107000 seats I guess. All I will say is good for them
Most college stadiums have bench seating. Pitt must have some of the softest fans in the land. While having a seat back is nice, at the cost of playing off campus--I'd be happy to take a seat on a bench. Look at the schools that draw the most fans...the same issues exist with nearly all of those college stadiums. College football is not the NFL. Hail to Pitt!
I was in South Bend last night and today, holy cow, their stadium is undergoing massive renovations and upgrades. And it was a beautiful place to begin with.
In 1991, Beaver Stadium and Doak Campbell were similar in design (both tall erector sets). Florida State did it right, creating a bowl and enclosing it in a gorgeous building that blends right in with the rest of campus. PSU tacked on two gargantuan mismatched upper decks on the end zones and called it a day. I bet if they could go back, PSU would have gone the FSU route.
ups and their stadium should be blown up. And not by jerry the tickle monster if you know what I mean. Instead of a stadium they should build a memorial
to the kids molested and covered up by the whole ups system on the site. Their new football stadium should be built on top of the sewer plant. that way all the cults could enjoy the stench
that their school has emitted to the world!
to the kids molested and covered up by the whole ups system on the site. Their new football stadium should be built on top of the sewer plant. that way all the cults could enjoy the stench
that their school has emitted to the world!
Barrister - Traditionally Pitt fans have been weak supporters. The location of the stadium doesn't have a thing to do with it. It has been proven over and again here that the attendance and, particularly, the student participation has improved greatly at Heinz. The recent years, with the tedium of mediocrity ever upon us, have seen broader city enthusiasm wane. That cost the former AD his job and, hey, it's a results game.
But... you know what distinguishes the biggest drawing schools (hint, it's NOT seats or outside coverings)? It's the fact that they DO NOT play in NFL/MLB/NHL cities... particularly cities that have iconic institutions like the Steelers. Now, that is simply a fact of life as a city university playing big time college football. There simply are NOT that many schools that even try it. Look at the list of cities that don't have a "Pitt" - Cleveland, Denver, St. Louis, Buffalo, Portland, Milwaukee, Kansas City, NYC, Detroit. Philly has... Temple?
Fact of the matter is that Pitt is one of the few city-based universities that are bucking the trend of the land-grants and NASCAR footprint. I do NOT consider state-wide universities that happen to be in an urban city as a legitimate comparison. So scratch UWashington, Minnesota, Cal, Utah, Arizona St, etc from the ranks of comparisons. To map Pitt to similar institutions, one needs to look to the U, GA Tech, BC, UCLA and USC, Cincy, Louisville, Houston. (iNone of the last 3 competing for attention with Steelers-like entities). Then, one gets to the universities that are smaller and do NOT bear the torch of the being their city's namesake university.. but are located in urban areas: Northwestern, SMU (Dallas), Rice (Houston), TCU (Ft. Worth), Syracuse (tier-2 metro area), Tulsa (see 'Cuse), Stanford (Bay area).
We can piss n' moan about Pitt not having an on-campus stadium. Conversely, I think that, given the tableau just laid out, we're fortunate to have respectable-and-trending-upwards football. In a quite nice football venue like Heinz Field. Does it lack the tradition and ambiance of Notre Dame, Auburn, Tennessee, Tuscaloosa? Yep. But now that time and the sports world have moved away from the era when Yale, Chicago, Penn and Fordham won national titles, I say that we college football fans who either attended the University of PITTsburgh, or who live in Western PA (or, best, both)... relax and appreciate what we DO have.
But... you know what distinguishes the biggest drawing schools (hint, it's NOT seats or outside coverings)? It's the fact that they DO NOT play in NFL/MLB/NHL cities... particularly cities that have iconic institutions like the Steelers. Now, that is simply a fact of life as a city university playing big time college football. There simply are NOT that many schools that even try it. Look at the list of cities that don't have a "Pitt" - Cleveland, Denver, St. Louis, Buffalo, Portland, Milwaukee, Kansas City, NYC, Detroit. Philly has... Temple?
Fact of the matter is that Pitt is one of the few city-based universities that are bucking the trend of the land-grants and NASCAR footprint. I do NOT consider state-wide universities that happen to be in an urban city as a legitimate comparison. So scratch UWashington, Minnesota, Cal, Utah, Arizona St, etc from the ranks of comparisons. To map Pitt to similar institutions, one needs to look to the U, GA Tech, BC, UCLA and USC, Cincy, Louisville, Houston. (iNone of the last 3 competing for attention with Steelers-like entities). Then, one gets to the universities that are smaller and do NOT bear the torch of the being their city's namesake university.. but are located in urban areas: Northwestern, SMU (Dallas), Rice (Houston), TCU (Ft. Worth), Syracuse (tier-2 metro area), Tulsa (see 'Cuse), Stanford (Bay area).
We can piss n' moan about Pitt not having an on-campus stadium. Conversely, I think that, given the tableau just laid out, we're fortunate to have respectable-and-trending-upwards football. In a quite nice football venue like Heinz Field. Does it lack the tradition and ambiance of Notre Dame, Auburn, Tennessee, Tuscaloosa? Yep. But now that time and the sports world have moved away from the era when Yale, Chicago, Penn and Fordham won national titles, I say that we college football fans who either attended the University of PITTsburgh, or who live in Western PA (or, best, both)... relax and appreciate what we DO have.
I don't believe there is one soccer stadium in the world which seats that many people. The largest one in Europe, Camp Nou in Barcelona, seats 98,000. ( I have watched my beloved Barca there many times.) The second largest is Wembley Stadium in London, which seats 80,000 plus.
The largest in South America I believe is the Macarena in Sao Paolo which has a capacity of more than 100,000, but many of those are standing room with no seats.
The thing about soccer is that many cities have multiple teams. London, for example, has Arsenel and Tottenham in North London, Chelsea just south of the Thames, Crystal Palace, Queens Park Rangers and Wimbledon further south and then teams in the suburbs like West Ham and Bolton. So, you might have as many as 300,000 Londoners watching soccer matches on a single day, but they will be spread out over 7 or 8 stadiums. Where you are born in London pretty much determines which team you will support your entire life.
You miss the point entirely...which is that bench seating and stadiums that do not measure up to NFL standards are the Gold Standard in College Football. Name a college team that is a regular in the top 30 that has a stadium that differs? PSU which plays in a crappy Beaver Stadium attracts crowds because they have tons of fans, tons of alumni, and they win on a regular basis. People do not go to see PSU play because of the stadium and they certainly do not stay home because of the stadium. Understand? I do not have the data, but it certainly would not surprise me to find out that about half of PSU's fans either own Steelers or Eagles season tickets.
As for Pitt, just my personal opinion, but yeah, I'd give up my seat with a cup holder, my own bartender, and urinal with no lines to go back and sit on a bench on campus. To me, that is what college football is about....walking around the campus where you had so many memories before the game...and doing so after the game. Of course the discussion of Pitt is just academic, as Pitt will never play on campus football again. Good day. Hail to Pitt!
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