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OT: Slap Shot Trivia

Wow, I wonder if he is close with Dave Hanson, and could have asked to get hooked up with a Hockey Coaching Job at the Robert Morris Sports Center, although no idea about their current relationship.

I do recall reading about 10 years ago that there were knockoff Chiefs Sweaters from the Slap Shot Movie with the 3 Hanson Brothers' Names on them being sold without the permission of the 2 Carlson Brothers and Dave Hanson(although no idea, if a Movie Studio owns the rights to all Slap Shot Movie Property/Character Names, or as the Team Owner told the Goalie on his enunciation, "Owns, Owns, Who Owns the Chiefs").

Anyways, I read that one of them(think it was one of the Carlson Brothers) was arranging to sell online 'Official' Chiefs Sweaters with each of the Hanson Brothers' Names included. I recall checking out the website at the time, and prices seemed high around $250-IIRC. No idea, if these Chiefs Sweaters(and other Hanson Brothers Gear) is still being sold, if that same website is still operational. I do not know how Movie Character Rights could be kept by Actors(especially Real Life Hockey Players, not savvy in the Entertainment Business and doubt prior to signing a contract that the Carlson Brothers and Hanson could have even anticipated how popular their Characters would become), but they used to do Events for Charity(think it was Breast Cancer), where they would show up at Hockey Rinks in Character as the Hanson Brothers.

I know that most Music Artists loose their ownership rights to Songs they wrote to Major Labels when they sign a contract(one of the rare smart ones was Kate Bush, who would only sign a contract even as just a teenager in the 1970s from what I read, that allowed her to retain ownership of her Music, then Prince eventually went on to fight WB over the same ownership issues, and Jay-Z seemed to learn from Prince on how to retain rights to his music).

I can tell you that the standard motion picture contract gives the producers or the studio depending on where the power lies the rights to everything — the characters, the merchandising, sequels, prequels, almost everything except your first born child. That doesn’t mean that a big star can’t negotiate some of those rights in his or her contract. But, the Carlsons were not exactly Clint Eastwood in 1977. (Of course, neither was Clint Eastwood back then.)
 
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As hockey movies, I prefer Slap Shot and Mystery, Alaska. Youngblood to me is too contrived and a story that has been done a thousand times. And, they used doubles to skate. Slap Shot and Mystery, Alaska were both unique and quirky.

I don’t consider Miracle On Ice in the same category because it is a true story. A great true story, an uplifting story, but cinematically just average.
 
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As hockey movies, I prefer Slap Shot and Mystery, Alaska. Youngblood to me is too contrived and a story that has been done a thousand times. And, they used doubles to skate. Slap Shot and Mystery, Alaska were both unique and quirky.

I don’t consider Miracle On Ice in the same category because it is a true story. A great true story, an uplifting story, but cinematically just average.
Mike, this is a great post and especially the last paragraph about the 80 Olympics. Today is anniversary btw. Saying this movie wasn’t great isn’t diminishing the real event

mystery Alaska is a great movie.
 
As hockey movies, I prefer Slap Shot and Mystery, Alaska. Youngblood to me is too contrived and a story that has been done a thousand times. And, they used doubles to skate. Slap Shot and Mystery, Alaska were both unique and quirky.

I don’t consider Miracle On Ice in the same category because it is a true story. A great true story, an uplifting story, but cinematically just average.
The one thing about Miracle is you could never make that stuff up.
 
I can tell you that the standard motion picture contract gives the producers or the studio depending on where the power lies the rights to everything — the characters, the merchandising, sequels, prequels, almost everything except your first born child. That doesn’t mean that a big star can’t negotiate some of those rights in his or her contract. But, the Carlsons were not exactly Clint Eastwood in 1977. (Of course, neither was Clint Eastwood back then.)
Actually my favorite Eastwood movies were already in his rear view mirror by '77. The Dirty Harry and spaghetti westerns, [especially my all time favorite, The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly] were all in the can.
 
I'll second that.
Watched it last night. Thought it was apropos, especially since the Russian game was on a Friday.

On a semihilarious tangent, they were showing the papers of that time, to capture the mood and one was the NY POST (and above the headlines they have notes) and it said "Inept Knicks lose by 45" and I laughed and thought....40 years, and that has never changed.
 
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Underdog beats a big favorite against the odds?? Yes you can.
No. That's not just it. Come on. Don't be obtuse. That will NEVER happen again. And by that, the US was pathetic, we were laughed at, abused, no one respected or feared us, it seemed like the Soviets were winning the cold war.

Watching that documentary, I mean I was 13 years old, and I have to admit life was pretty good for me, I don't remember gas lines or high unemployment (thank god) and stuff like that was happening. You have to appreciate the whole environment of that time....it was much more than a hockey game.

Watch "Do you believe in Miracles" the documentary. You can find on Demand or You Tube.
 
Mike, this is a great post and especially the last paragraph about the 80 Olympics. Today is anniversary btw. Saying this movie wasn’t great isn’t diminishing the real event

mystery Alaska is a great movie.
I am sorry............I mean.....a picture or two is worth thousands here.

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No. That's not just it. Come on. Don't be obtuse. That will NEVER happen again. And by that, the US was pathetic, we were laughed at, abused, no one respected or feared us, it seemed like the Soviets were winning the cold war.

Watching that documentary, I mean I was 13 years old, and I have to admit life was pretty good for me, I don't remember gas lines or high unemployment (thank god) and stuff like that was happening. You have to appreciate the whole environment of that time....it was much more than a hockey game.

Watch "Do you believe in Miracles" the documentary. You can find on Demand or You Tube.
I know, it’s the best moment in US sports history. I know. I was there. I was 4 and don’t remember but I can imagine.
 
I can tell you that the standard motion picture contract gives the producers or the studio depending on where the power lies the rights to everything — the characters, the merchandising, sequels, prequels, almost everything except your first born child. That doesn’t mean that a big star can’t negotiate some of those rights in his or her contract. But, the Carlsons were not exactly Clint Eastwood in 1977. (Of course, neither was Clint Eastwood back then.)
I figured you would know more about it, as recall you also worked with some Music Artists in a prior Thread here. I kind of assumed though that Movie Studios owned rights to all Property and use of Character Names.

I remember when Conan O'Brien was let go after his brief time as the Host of the Tonight Show(or after Leno stabbed Conan in the back over it when he wanted his Tonight Show Host Job back after his 10:00 Talk Show was a failure), that The Triumph the Insult Comic Dog(that Conan had used in his Original Late Night Show, was considered 'Property' of NBC, so when Conan moved on to TBS, he lost the rights to use Triumph(operated and played by the Smigel Dude from SNL).

Although, a few weeks ago Triumph the Insult Comic Dog made an appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, that is on CBS, so not sure how ownership rights to Triumph now works, or if CBS bought it out from NBC. It was a funny bit where Triumph went to the Impeachment Senate Hearings and he asked Lindsey Graham, "Senator Graham, I saw the Video of you wanting Witnesses for the Clinton Impeachment in the '90s. Why would you change everything about yourself, and keep that haircut?" Then while Graham held a Press Conference in the Senate Hallway, Triumph got behind him and held up a Sign, 'Will Lie for Rubles'(Triumph should have did it to Moscow Mitch, who refuses to bring up the Bill from the House on Election Security Protection Laws).

Link to this Funny Video Below:

 
Here's a real life movie. Last night in Toronto, the Carolina Hurricanes lost both of their goalies to injury. Now, the NHL has a rule on this, each arena has a designated person, could even be a fan, to be an "emergency goalie". They literally come out of the stands, suit up and play. Now obviously located in Toronto, you probably have more capable guys. But this guy, a zamboni driver, suited up.............and BEAT the Maple Leafs!!!!

 
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Here's a real life movie. Last night in Toronto, the Carolina Hurricanes lost both of their goalies to injury. Now, the NHL has a rule on this, each arena has a designated person, could even be a fan, to be an "emergency goalie". They literally come out of the stands, suit up and play. Now obviously located in Toronto, you probably have more capable guys. But this guy, a zamboni driver, suited up.............and BEAT the Maple Leafs!!!!

I can’t even grasp this. Is this serious? Unreal if so.
 
Here's a real life movie. Last night in Toronto, the Carolina Hurricanes lost both of their goalies to injury. Now, the NHL has a rule on this, each arena has a designated person, could even be a fan, to be an "emergency goalie". They literally come out of the stands, suit up and play. Now obviously located in Toronto, you probably have more capable guys. But this guy, a zamboni driver, suited up.............and BEAT the Maple Leafs!!!!

https://www.wralsportsfan.com/ralei...-ayres-for-leading-canes-to-victory/18971359/
 
No, you can’t in this case. It’s like a high school football team beating the Super Bowl champs.
think you would be hard pressed to find a cinderella story where cinderella was thoroughly embarrassed (10-3) by the same team less than two weeks before the ball.. Equivalent of a Christian Laettner led Duke team beating IUP 102-38 and losing to them two weeks later...
 
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think you would be hard pressed to find a cinderella story where cinderella was thoroughly embarrassed (10-3) by the same team less than two weeks before the ball.. Equivalent of a Christian Laettner led Duke team beating IUP 102-38 and losing to them two weeks later...
In retrospect though, that USA team, while young and college, wasn't altogether that bad. Many of those guys went on to the NHL, some had long and good careers like Morrow, Johnson, Ramsey, Christian, Broten. What was funny is what they created for the next US Olympic Team.

in 1984, there was alot of excitement for the team. It had future Hall of Famers Chris Chelios and Pat Lafontaine on them. Also top picks and All Stars like Ed Olczyk and Al Iafrate, also other future NHL'ers like Scott Bjugstad and Corey Millen and this team fell flat on their face!

And then the 1988 team. Man, Mike Richter and Chris Terrari in net. Brian Leetch, Eric Weinrich, Tony Granato, Craig Janney, Corey Millen, Scott Young and some big Boston kid named Kevin Stevens.

Both the 1984 and 1988 teams finished 7th!!!!
 
In retrospect though, that USA team, while young and college, wasn't altogether that bad. Many of those guys went on to the NHL, some had long and good careers like Morrow, Johnson, Ramsey, Christian, Broten. What was funny is what they created for the next US Olympic Team.

in 1984, there was alot of excitement for the team. It had future Hall of Famers Chris Chelios and Pat Lafontaine on them. Also top picks and All Stars like Ed Olczyk and Al Iafrate, also other future NHL'ers like Scott Bjugstad and Corey Millen and this team fell flat on their face!

And then the 1988 team. Man, Mike Richter and Chris Terrari in net. Brian Leetch, Eric Weinrich, Tony Granato, Craig Janney, Corey Millen, Scott Young and some big Boston kid named Kevin Stevens.

Both the 1984 and 1988 teams finished 7th!!!!
I watched miracle last njght. Ending credits, they give a summary of where the players are now. Some are coaches and scouts but slot of them were very successful types. Well they all had fancy business titles at least. VPs, owners, etc.

miracle was a pretty sweet movie. Snake plisken is a bad ass of course but the hockey footage was well done too. Cool how they got al Michaels to redo the voice commentary too.
 
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think you would be hard pressed to find a cinderella story where cinderella was thoroughly embarrassed (10-3) by the same team less than two weeks before the ball.. Equivalent of a Christian Laettner led Duke team beating IUP 102-38 and losing to them two weeks later...

And then IUP turning around and beating #2 a couple of nights later for the championship. Sweden wasn't exactly a joke either.
 
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And then IUP turning around and beating #2 a couple of nights later for the championship. Sweden wasn't exactly a joke either.
They tied Sweden in the first game which gave the team great confidence. They beat a real good Finland team for the title.
 
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It’s funny that in both Olympics where the US beat the heavily-favored Russians to win the gold medal, the game against Russia — although it is the one everyone remembers — was not the final game in which the gold medal was clinched. In 1960 at Squaw Valley, after the huge upset of the Russians, the US had to beat Czechoslovakia (I think) to win the gold.

The 1960 win might have been a bigger upset, but it isn’t remembered as much because it was before television became something everyone had access to. There were Christian brothers on that team and I believe one of them is the father of the Christian on the Miracle team.
 
Two members of the Johnstown Jets EHL team were also on that 1960 team. Don Hall and Dick Roberge.
 
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