OT: Wow - the Steelers just got really lucky there.....
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Pete Morelli playing it safe as he had one the worst blown calls ever against the Steelers on a replay in the '05 playoffs
Knee was probably down....but there wasn't a shot that showed knee Down and ball secured. Just knee down and no visible ball yet -- although in theory, it may have been moving already.
Knee was probably down....but there wasn't a shot that showed knee Down and ball secured. Just knee down and no visible ball yet -- although in theory, it may have been moving already.
And there was pass interference on the series before on Antonio Brown. And the PI on artie burns in the back of the end zone was bs. And they missed MANY bad holding calls on cincy big runs. They missed the TE's knee hitting in the back of the end zone for cincy. This was a terribly officiated game all around.
This is exactly right. To overturn that they have to see a secure ball when the knee hits and that was not visible. They can't assume the ball isn't moving which they would have to do to overturn.
Now I think it was no fumble. but whatever was called on the field was going to stick because you couldn't see the ball.
I wish Boyd would have ended up outside the AFC North. I really wanted to keep rooting for him
Seriously, he was used very well today. If teams over play on AJ Green, Boyd is going to have a really great rookie season.Since he went down on his own what was going on when his knee hit is sort of immaterial. What matters is if he had possession of the ball when he was touched by the defender. In none of the replays that they had could you actually see if he had the ball or not when he was touched, which is why no matter what they would have called the call was going to have to stand.
However, we can all be honest here and say that there is a 99.99% chance that the ball got knocked out when he got hit and not before, which means that it really wasn't a fumble.
Why didn't Marvin Lewis challenge the TE knee thing? Hard to blame the officials. That is what replays are for.
Regarding the Boyd fumle/non-fumble, while I find it difficult to believe that he wasn't down, no replay angle proves it. One of the schools of thought I heard on a national show last night was that Harrison's knee hit the ball before he touched Boyd. So while Boyd's knee was on the ground, contact hadn't been made yet. I find that hard to believe as well. But again, hard to prove otherwise. I'll take the win, but will feel bad for Boyd. But overall, Boyd had a nice game and is off to a solid start in his NFL career.
yep, It's gonna be tough to be a Boyd fan with him on the bengals. I already am happy he blew the game for them. It is good for him though, to play opposite Green in a pass happy offense. He probably couldn't have landed in a better spot. Sucks for pitt fans who are steeler fans though, as the bungles are now are real rival.
No, it was obviously NOT a fumble, which is why I was surprised that they didn't overturn the call.
OK, well just don't tell the NFL. if they get wind of you being so convinced, they will definitely overturn the outcome and give the bengals the win..
How so? In real time it looked like a fumble, so it is hard to fault the refs on that. Which replay are you seeing where it is clear that the ball wasn't moving after he was contacted AND had his knee on the ground? I apparently haven't seen that replay yet. Or are you just assuming like the rest of us that the ball had to be secure at that point? In all likelihood, it wasn't a fumble. But unfortunately for Tyler, it can't be proven.
Fcck Boyd! I'm glad he fumbled and was the goat and MY TEAM WON! Even if it was a bad call, GOOD! He doesn't play for a team I root for anymore. I don't root for people, I root for teams and colors.
The replay they showed on TV (and the one shown on NFL.com). The ball did't just pop out on it's own, and it seems pretty clear that the defender caused the fumble AFTER Boyd's knew was down. The Bungles got screwed again, and not even by their own players this time.
"Seems pretty clear" is a good bit different than "did". I'm not arguing that it doesn't seem pretty clear that the ball didn't come out until his knee was already down. I'm just arguing that by the rule, there wasn't enough there to turn over the call on the field. Not sure how you can't understand that.
I understand that perfectly, and to me, Boyd was clearly down when he got hit and the ball popped lose, unless we want to start violating physics and assume that the ball changed direction on its own. I guess it is possible that a micro force from another dimension inserted itself at the same time. We don;'t have evidence to suggest otherwise.
Really funny! LOL, lets have physics majors be the refs and apply physics theory when reviewing plays! LOL!
Don't need to know anything about physics to realize that a ball doesn't just change direction on its own. What caused it to just pop out? Hmm? Must of been that inter-dimensional force.
Or the knee of the defender.
Boyd's knee hit the ground. The Steeler defender hits Boyd. The ball pops out. What else more do people need to know?
Or the knee of the defender.
Boyd's knee hit the ground. The Steeler defender hits Boyd. The ball pops out. What else more do people need to know?
But shouldn't it be clearly visible on the replay to change the call? You're going too far with this nonsense if you want to infer things that the replay clearly doesn't show.
