OT: WVU is pretty good

[Sean Miller Fan]

They are going to go 8-4 with their only 4 losses to TCU, Baylor, OKST, and OU.....3 on the road.

Pitt, PSU, and WVU are having remarkably similar seasons, losing to all the good teams and beating all the teams they are better than.

 

[steelymcbeem]

who cares we don't play them . They are irrelevant to Pitt. The paradigm has shifted. Shift with it.

 

[whirlybird optio]

They are going to go 8-4 with their only 4 losses to TCU, Baylor, OKST, and OU.....3 on the road.

Pitt, PSU, and WVU are having remarkably similar seasons, losing to all the good teams and beating all the teams they are better than.

The only thing I am confident is that PSU is pretty clearly the worst of those three teams. WVU is definitely a pretty good team in Morgantown, but beyond that I'm not sure. Pitt has won 5 road games out of 6, and I'm also pretty confident that neither PSU nor WVU would have won these 5 road games, two of which will be against bowl teams.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

They are going to go 8-4 with their only 4 losses to TCU, Baylor, OKST, and OU.....3 on the road.

Pitt, PSU, and WVU are having remarkably similar seasons, losing to all the good teams and beating all the teams they are better than.

I did not know how to predict all 3 Programs at the start of the seasons, and why I followed them, watched games, and looked at the results and posted predictions for all 3 of them. Regardless of what others think they are still Pitt Historical Rivals and today's competitors on recruiting!

WVU had the edge because Dana was there for 5 years now, and predicted his Team was ready to win the Big-12? Yet, they started out great but ran into a Buzz Saw of a Big-12 Schedule and still played OKSU to OT! But still not ready for Prime Time like you posted! They are beating Texas Tech, Texas, and perhaps KSU and that is an improvement even as they rebuild. Yet, not much better than Pitt or Penn State! I suspect they are a Top 30-35 Team if they can win the rest of their Games? If not, Top 40!

Penn State is still an enigma due to great recruiting but sanctions leftovers and questionable coaching of Franklin & Staff. I see Talent but not Team Play or Game Day Coaching! They can beat the dregs of the Big Ten but not the Good Teams and far from even giving Top 25 Good Games, last or this year so far? They had a light schedule against very weak Programs. I suspect they are a Top 40 Team. Expectations for Penn State will be sky high the next 2 games and all of next year. The Team Talent should be way better by the 11th Michigan and MSU 12th GAmes? We shall see soon? However, next year, the Coaching should be way better since it will be Franklin's 3rd Year with much recruiting talent?

PITT was the hardest to predict since once again Pederson Poison is still causing self-imposed sanctions on Pitt recruiting and coaching changes and lame support Pederson caused on his own and his Buyouts! Yet, from day one it has been Narduzzi Day compared to Chryst-Graham Nights. Unlike slow slumbering, stumbling "Duh, You Knows" Chryst. Coach Pat found a Great Staff in weeks not months. Tested his players in individual feats in Spring Ball and Slept in the Dorms to get to know his Players. Coach Pat proves his coaching could change attitudes, game plans, execution, and become better as the season progresses. Every Pitt game was a TOSS Up Game except YSU and ND, and Pitt played them better than Chryst, Graham, and Wannstedt did in their First Year. Yet, Pitt talent level and depth still needs way more advancement but Coach Pat & Staff have done a way better job than WVU or PSU, in my opinion! Coach Pat so far has Pitt around Top 30, but needs to win the last 2 games to keep it?

Summation:
WVU had to play far more top 25 Competition against OU, OKSU, TCU and Baylor, Pitt had to play Iowa, Notre Dame, and UNC, and Penn State played OSU, NW, Michigan and MSU and I can't see them beating any of them.

The remainder of the schedules was full of Average to Below Average to Bottom Feeders Teams and PITT, WVU, & PSU have proven they can beat them so far?

All 3 can end up 7-6 to 9-4 to possible 10-3 for Pitt and PSU! All 3 need to do better in various aspects, Pitt in recruiting, Penn State in coaching, and WVU in both recruitment and coaching against Big-12 Programs?

Next year Pitt has PSU & OKSU and possible facing 4 New Coaches in the ACC and needs way better than Top 60 Recruiting?

Time to finish off 2015 and WVU can beat ISU, Kansas, and KSU as Pitt has a tougher ULOU & MIAMI, and Penn State facing 2 Top 25 Teams in Michigan and MSU?

We shall see how they finish 2015 plus the Bowls?

Penn State has just Pitt and Temple while up against improved Michigan, and MSU & OSU again, and Top 10-15 Recruiting?

WVU is adding BYU so far, but another tough Big-12 run and still possible New Coach with Top 30-40 Recruiting?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The only thing I am confident is that PSU is pretty clearly the worst of those three teams. WVU is definitely a pretty good team in Morgantown, but beyond that I'm not sure. Pitt has won 5 road games out of 6, and I'm also pretty confident that neither PSU nor WVU would have won these 5 road games, two of which will be against bowl teams.

Very good analysis!

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

WVU would be crazy to fire Holgy after an 8-4 season in a very competitive conference this year. But I could see them doing something like that.

 

[OriginalEther]

Hard to really say. That's a tough group of teams that they have lost to.
But I wouldn't call them pretty good just because they beat a Texas team that has shown no ability to play on the road.

 

[Pghfan]

they'd be idiotic to fire Holgy.. They would absolutely do no better and very easily do much worse..

 

[ChazzMo]

who cares we don't play them . They are irrelevant to Pitt. The paradigm has shifted. Shift with it.

how about they're 90 miles away, we recruit against them, they get regular reporting in our local papers, and they're as relevant, or more, in that sense as any FBS school within 500 miles.

 

[pierre93]

They are going to go 8-4 with their only 4 losses to TCU, Baylor, OKST, and OU.....3 on the road.

Pitt, PSU, and WVU are having remarkably similar seasons, losing to all the good teams and beating all the teams they are better than.

Don't count on cc winning all their remaining games.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

They are okay, but I really think the Big 12 as a whole is incredibly overrated.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

They are going to go 8-4 with their only 4 losses to TCU, Baylor, OKST, and OU.....3 on the road.

Pitt, PSU, and WVU are having remarkably similar seasons, losing to all the good teams and beating all the teams they are better than.

SMF, we can go 9-3 with our only losses to ND, Iowa and UNC, all of whom could be top 10 by the time the regular season is over, 2 of them top 5.

 

[PantherRJ]

They are beating Texas Tech, Texas, and perhaps KSU and that is an improvement even as they rebuild.

Penn State is still an enigma due to great recruiting but sanctions leftovers and questionable coaching of Franklin & Staff.

You lost me on the two highlighted statements, which put you squarely into the "apologist" category. First, what in the world do you mean when you say WVU is rebuilding? A coach in their 5th season is not in any way shape or form in a "rebuild". Period. And in any case, the year before Holgerson took over the program WVU had 9 wins and was conference co-champ.

Same for raising the "sanctions" excuse. Most of the "sanctions" were reduced or revoked. As has been shown, PSU has higher recruiting rankings/depth/experience across their 2 deep at his point than Pitt. PSU has a higher average star ranking across their whole starting offense and o-line, for example, than either OSU or MSU (to pick 2 teams ranked much higher).

 

[OriginalEther]

Don't count on cc winning all their remaining games.

Well, their remaining schedule is...
At Kansas
Iowa st
At Kansas st

Kansas sucks. Iowa st can be tricky in Ames, but the game is at home. Kansas st should be their toughest game, but the Wildcats are melting down.
I probably would bet on 8-4

 

[Pittx9]

WVU looks like a pretty average team to me. Definitely not bad enough that they need to fire Holgy, but nothing really special either. I don't think any of their last 3 games are a lock either, they could come out and play awful just as easy as they could steamroll any of the remaining 3 (Kansas, K-State, Iowa State).

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Hard to really say. That's a tough group of teams that they have lost to.
But I wouldn't call them pretty good just because they beat a Texas team that has shown no ability to play on the road.

Good post!