Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances
1994- google it
Guess who violated it. Putin first in 2014
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1994- google it
Guess who violated it. Putin first in 2014
How is Ukraine even losing its sovereignty? Please explain.
How do you we aren't? Trump has stated he would try to get as much land back as possible. You are not all-knowing.
It was never agreed to by Congress, A president's signature is not binding. That's why we have treaties.
1991 NATO Non=expansion Agreement
Google it.
Guess who violated it. The US/Clinton in 1994.
Does a country have borders ?
If another county doesn’t respect those - and takes land by force - how is it sovereign?
When did Trump say that ? Because it seems like he wants Ukraine to surrender land to Putin - which you just said - wasn’t what anyone wants ?!?
Trump just talks
Your double talk again is exposed .
Sovereignty - look it up. It says nothing about borders being permanent.
"President Trump said Wednesday Russia will have to make “concessions” in negotiations with Ukraine — but that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “can forget” about joining NATO.
The president has hesitated to speak about what occupied land Ukraine could get back in peace negotiations with Russia, but made one admission before his first Cabinet meeting of his administration, saying he would try to get Ukraine back its land.
“We’re going to do the best we can to make the best deal we can for both sides, but for Ukraine, we’re going to try very hard to make a good deal so that they can get as much back as possible. We want to get as much back as possible,” Trump told reporters."
I have no idea what the rest of your pidgin english post even means.
so that’s a no .
NATO also approved the expansion.
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I'm cheering that the heroic Ukrainian population has resisted their free country's takeover by a superpower who invaded them without provocation. The war is Russia's doing and Russia's choice to continue. Or course Trump and his clown car treat Vlad Putin and Russia with kid gloves and deference, like weaklings and supplicants.
NATO is a defensive alliance. Russia knew damn well they were under no threat from Ukraine or NATO. Of course thanks to Vlad's cluster f*ck, Russia has now Finland and Sweden in NATO and an 800 mile border they share with a NATO country.
So you enjoyed Trump and Vance's pre-planned ambush and humiliation of President Zelenskyy?
Yikes. Should have said how we value Trump for attempting to extort Zelensky to open a faux investigation on Biden, otherwise Congressionally mandated foreign defense aid (including Javelins) would be withheld.
That’s what led to Trump’s first impeachment.
That’s what led to Trump’s first impeachment.
Hey 81.
You’re late to the game in these discussions and it was established pretty thoroughly. It’s clear as day that it wasn’t a pre-planned ambush. Anyone who watched the entire 45 minutes without a preconceived bias can see it plainly.
Yes. Foreign intervention in an authoritarian's election. The US absolutely should meddle in political processes in Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea (that's pretty much impossible), Iran, China, Belarus, and old Ukraine. Why is this so hard for you to understand. Dictators make the US less safe.
The majority of Ukraine is pro-European and the old regime was rigging elections with the help of Moscow.
Who started the war? I dare you to answer. No chance you say Russia. It's anyone but Russia, right? Ukraine started it. Or the US? Or Europe? Russia was just defending itself from aggressors, right?
Now that’s a good one, telling SMF how stupid his post was without directly saying it.
Thank you for confirming that NATO and Clinton were the first violators. Putin rationally reacted to that aggression.
No doubt. He won it. Winners get the spoils. That's the way that war works. It isn't woke.
I did. Z walked right into the trap with his disrespectful behavior. It would never have happened if he hadn't taken the foolish Dem advice to confront Trump. But POTUS expected it and was ready.
Again, stay as far away from international politics as possible. You know nothing.
Clearly, Russia invaded Ukraine. But Putin acted rationally for his country in the face of 30 years of NATO aggression breaking a 1991 agreement.
Putin acted rationally. Could you imagine Ronald Reagan saying that? What if Joe Biden would have said that?
Neither his first nor second impeachment led to a conviction, but maybe three times is a charm.
Do you not believe that the leader of a country should act in the best interests of the country he leads?
How much land did Trump get back via his negotiations?
(Probably just don’t answer this one like you didn’t see it. Total b**** move.)
Negotiations haven't even started. You really need to keep up.
I have no idea what your parenthetical sentence even means.
Man - there is only one other guy I know who rides Putin’s nuts harder than you do!
MBS and Putin high-fived like they dunked on him! So humiliating.
Any word on when Putin will summon us back to Saudi Arabia?
I will repeat.
Do you not believe that the leader of a country should act in the best interests of the country he leads?
That didn’t work out too well for him. He came back on his hands and knees as expected.
Has he? And secondly, he didn't tell them to KHA the first time. I wish he would have - especially to that ass clown pillow bitter Vance.
Yes he has. He's virtually begging now.
I wish he would have told them to KHA, too. Then we could just walk away from the killing.
