He is out past 5-
You are a good man souf, I mean it. We disagree about kickoff times, no biggey.
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Love, LOVE the club seats. You are living the dream.
Well it is the obvious dream of so many Pitt fans because they believe then Pitt will become the dominant entity and stadiums will fill and greatness will follow. Which is completely misguided.
Well yeah, but if you play an attractive opponent on a date that the stinking Pirates are playing a night game then the networks are boxed in...this has happened a boat load of times. Pitt pays a price for playing on the Northside.
I hate this mindset and I do see it on here and it's so naïve.. If the pens suck, if the steelers suck, if the pirates move, everyone in western PA will jump on the pitt bandwagon. The city will give Heinz to pitt and every game will be a sell out..
Never happen, but you're pretty right on about this. Except the start times. As long as we're mediocre, we'll stil get noon starts more often than not
you see, that's where I take offense. I've researched (OK, that's a strong word, I looked it up) and many more inferior programs in the acc were getting much better (aka 3:30pm) time slots.. I really think there is more to it than just pitt being blah and getting noon times, I really do.
Not ridiculous, at least in the 80s. We had a juicy window when the Steelers fell back somewhat, were losing some games 51-0 and such and using guys like Rich Erenberg and Loopy Sanchez as starters. Pitt stupidly chose to cut off the booster spigot at the same time, instead of amping it up and doing what ewas necessary to win a couple more NC. That would have filled the insecure void of the region that desperately wants sports championships to redeem it from being the backyard smoky city everyone did (and still does) view it as. WPA proves continuously that it will ravenously back winners of major league sports (and FBS college football certainly qualifies as such). We should have gone the short extra mile with basketball at that time too... we were clearly cheating with Calipari, just not quite enough. Having both a big winner in the football AND basketball... mother lode in yinzer town!
The push by our administration to de prioritize football over academics in mid 80s couldn’t have come at a worse time.
Oh no doubt. I have often said this. Timing is everything. And no matter how great 76-82 were for Pitt, the Steelers were in their run of Super Bowls and the Pirates were a WS contender and champion. So Pitt's success got overshadowed locally.
If you really mean or believe any of this, you're an idiot. If you're just trying to stir the pot, it's a really lame effort.
It's just a fantasy, a crazy dream scenario. Sound conclusion, though. Our teams would have to win ... losing teams would still be scorned as they are today ... but otherwise his scenario is entirely correct.
i think the mid 80s was an important time for the evolution of college football. maybe it was cable tv starting to come into it's own, espn type coverage where it was such a bad time to dive into oblivion..
To each his own. I have friends who do gamedays with their families like Souf, I have buddies who like to tailgate and party hard with like minded people, and I have friends who are in between--there more for the tailgating than the game, but keep it under control. I alternate among all 3 of those categories depending on who I'm going to a game with or what game/weekend it is (like homecoming). Some are with my family, some are with a big group of guys. There's no right or wrong way to do it, it's different strokes for different folks. IMO, noon games kill the tailgating, which for many is the best part of the day. A 1:30 start seems to satisfy all categories.
No, you are absolutely correct. It is why the Big East basketball became such a power, because most of its footprint was wired for cable while the rest of the country wasn't, and the Big East was broadcast nationally.
i think pitt gets the short end of the stick with these home noon kickoff times. We seem to get a very disproportionate amount of home noon kick off times. i know it's a tv thing and we dont pick and choose this and maybe it's just rotten luck every year.
So.....let's review a couple of things. Not many P5 teams to televise to an EAST Coast market, particularly Northeast.. The ACC and Big10 each have 3 "eastern teams". Those 6 play lots of games outside the region, due to conference affiliations. It's pretty dumb to expect IU, Wisky, Tenn, MO, Ark, etc. to start at 11:00 AM to fill the noon slots. The Big10 is clearly midwest, and only psu claims relevance of their 3. The networks want reasonably attractive games. Temple vs. UMASS doesn't matter. Pitt vs. Rhode Island doesn't matter, either, but at least Pitt has a tradition, and frequently punches above it's weight. I don't like noon games, either, but TV rules.
The U became the U by going pro in FB, with no regard for decency.
The best ballpark ...or at least close...is the biggest reason anyone shows up. Nice way to spend an evening. you can record Jeopardy.
Other than occasional random conflicts that can happen on any game day or time, I really have no gripe with any start time. There are pros and cons for all.
From what I've seen of your posts over the years, I tend share much of your general worldview.
the older I get, the less annoyed by earlier times I get. im still not in the "matlock" or "Murder she wrote" demographic yet so I prefer the 3:30pm time..
There's next to no decency among ANY of the winners. Nor among the losers either. It's not a clean business.
Sort of exactly like Pitt did. And no one was complaining back then.
We were never as bad as the U at their peak. We might have gotten there if they hired jimmy Johnson. Or Butch Davies.
