OT - Zach Gilbert to RMU
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not shabby for any kid to play at any college for football. Only 4% of HS players move onto college ball. So while many people may poo poo non FBS football like D2/D3, the fact remains that many of those players where among the best players in their area in many cases, let a lone best players on their team.
D3 programs are an extension of high school..anyone can play. You sign up instead of making the team
I've had all conference kids get turned down by d3 schools.
The elite D3 schools can hang with most d2 schools and even some fcs schools.
I've seen some Wesley kids who belonged in fbs but would never been close to being eligible.
Lot of stupidity and ignorance in one post.
Delete this nonsense...
Exactly. Are most of the players in D3 FBS quality of players? Of course not, but there are a handful that are. Are the rest of them a bunch of scrubs. No, more were the top players at their HS and maybe even area. D3 rosters are littered with HS first and 2nd team all conferencse players. They are good players you may have lacked size or speed, but were good players non the less. Of course FBS is more entertaining to me, but I have watched plenty of D2 and D3 football to know that there is good football being played.
Probably someone who never played a down of football.
Does anyone know the back story with Gilbert?
I mean, If he was physically able to play ball again where there any big schools coming after him?
I mean, If he was physically able to play ball again where there any big schools coming after him?
Division 3 is hardly a joke. The local HS superstar went down to St. Vincent and found out that kids at that level can hit. He lasted about three days and was over it.
I grew up watching DII (IUP). Every year there would be Pitt/PSU/WVU transfers coming in. Some like Barry Threats and Khi Downey were very good and both those guys got a chance at the NFL. About half found out that those players were pretty good and never made an impact. I remember when Paul Failla transferred from ND. He was probably IUP's worst starting QB over a 15-year period and he got boo'ed off the field.
Small ball is perfect for guys like Rich Ingold who was probably the best WPIAL QB in the 1980's. He was only around 5'10-11" though. He was a great QB and got a shot at the Arena league when it started and was one of their stars the first 2 seasons. He was just too small for the NFL though, in fact, he got injured playing arena ball and had to quit.
Then there are guys like James Suber, who went 6'2" 210 and ran a 4.4 40 but got busted for theft and barely escaped prison which cost him schollies to ND and FSU in their hey days. He ended up at IUP and is still the best player I've seen live. Imagine Fitz playing DII. It was fun to watch.
DIII has lots of kids from tiny school districts that nobody knows about. Many are excellent players that are a step "too slow". Most of the small school teams have multiple players that could start or at least contribute for a team like Pitt.
I've always said that you could win a championship every year with the best players in the MAC. You could put together a bowl-caliber team any year with the players you could muster from DIII line-ups.
Small ball is perfect for guys like Rich Ingold who was probably the best WPIAL QB in the 1980's. He was only around 5'10-11" though. He was a great QB and got a shot at the Arena league when it started and was one of their stars the first 2 seasons. He was just too small for the NFL though, in fact, he got injured playing arena ball and had to quit.
Then there are guys like James Suber, who went 6'2" 210 and ran a 4.4 40 but got busted for theft and barely escaped prison which cost him schollies to ND and FSU in their hey days. He ended up at IUP and is still the best player I've seen live. Imagine Fitz playing DII. It was fun to watch.
DIII has lots of kids from tiny school districts that nobody knows about. Many are excellent players that are a step "too slow". Most of the small school teams have multiple players that could start or at least contribute for a team like Pitt.
I've always said that you could win a championship every year with the best players in the MAC. You could put together a bowl-caliber team any year with the players you could muster from DIII line-ups.
If I had it to do all over again, I would have followed up on the Division III interest I received (which was all I received) in high school. Some pretty good academic schools, too. Of course, at age 17 you couldn't tell ME I was "just" a Division III player, so since I was accepted at Temple, I figured I would walk on there (unrecruited, of course). OK, kid, you think you can do this? Let me introduce you to Joseph Klecko. If you can block him, we've got a place for you. (Yeah, that wasn't fair, but they had to weed out the pretenders . . . ) Needless to say, I didn't pass THAT test. Ironically, one of the Division III schools I turned my nose up at would win the national championship my senior year of college. Nationally televised game and all. I'm sitting there watching it thinking that could have been me . . .
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I know a guy who thought he’d just show up and play at some NAIAish low level program as a dback. He got steamrolled/blown up by a RB in his first practice and that was the end of that.
Played 6 years. Abour 12 Guys from our senior class "played" d3. These were not all conf guys from our squad some barely played in h.s. I agree it takes commitment but that doesnt make them good. D3 is very large. The top 10% are good players on good teams. The majority is cannon fodder.
To think that thet are part of the elite that go onto play football in college is total nonsense.
There are tons of guys who could play d2 or d3 that hang it up after h.s.
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