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Our win over psu did nothing for recruiting

PSU will get the top players by a majority in PA. Always have and always will. So? What has that led them to? A crap schedule that Franklin benefited from. Iowa, MSU, declined. Perdue, Rutgers, Maryland were really bad. Indiana was OK and gave the nits quite a game. Michigan destroyed them. Pitt beat them. OSU controlled the game until a blocked punt a FG turned the game around. In short Wisconsin was a good win. I will give the nits that. We will see in the Rose bowl if a motivated USC team presents a better reflection of PSU as a team. I guess the selectors for the final four never took the PSU team all that seriously. They won the Big Ten and were still considered behind Michigan and OSU.
OSU far from controlled the game. Ask Barrett who was on his ass 6 times who controlled the game. Or both their right and left tackles who were owned. How about that PSU shut vaunted OSU out for the last 23 minutes of the game when it was on the line. Yeah, I hope Penn State is always "controlled" like that against the top teams because the result will be a PSU win most times.
 
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I know what you are saying, but he made the halftime adjustments to score 31 points in the second half to beat a top 5 defense and win the conference championship. I guess you could look at it both ways, but they won the game.

Throw 50/50 balls and hope the WR catch them?
 
OSU far from controlled the game. Ask Barrett who was on his ass 6 times who controlled the game. Or both their right and left tackles who were owned. How about that PSU shut vaunted OSU out for the last 23 minutes of the game when it was on the line. Yeah, I hope Penn State is always "controlled" like that against the top teams because the result will be a PSU win most times.

I give PSU much credit for the win no matter the reasons. But, I watched the game, and it seemed like OSU outplayed PSU, just couldn't put the game away earlier (somewhat like Pitt game). The blocked kick, runback was the deciding TD, then PSU stopped them with the help of an obvious (no question about it) pass interference non-call. OSU would have won that game any other day (even without the yardage differential), but it was PSU's day. It is typical that PSU fans demean Pitt, and say that they should have lost close games, such as Clemson, but want to say that PSU deserved to beat OSU. You can't have it both ways. Both teams had good years, and PSU certainly finished strong, but they were definitely fortunate to beat OSU, but again, it doesn't matter, they did it.
 
I know, but I would rather win on the scoreboard than win the yardage total. The future is bright.
Yes, PSU's future looks bright, and Franklin deserves credit, especially after taking some heat. Pitt's future looks bright too. Pitt may never recruit as well as PSU, but they will still be competitive with Narduzzi. Some of your fans are proclaiming a 30 or more pt win over Pitt next year, but the game will be played on the field not in the stands. It should be fun.
 
I give PSU much credit for the win no matter the reasons. But, I watched the game, and it seemed like OSU outplayed PSU, just couldn't put the game away earlier (somewhat like Pitt game). The blocked kick, runback was the deciding TD, then PSU stopped them with the help of an obvious (no question about it) pass interference non-call. OSU would have won that game any other day (even without the yardage differential), but it was PSU's day. It is typical that PSU fans demean Pitt, and say that they should have lost close games, such as Clemson, but want to say that PSU deserved to beat OSU. You can't have it both ways. Both teams had good years, and PSU certainly finished strong, but they were definitely fortunate to beat OSU, but again, it doesn't matter, they did it.
Yes they managed to win with the help of OSU falling asleep in the 4th.
Up 21-7 with like 12 mins to go OSU receives a PSU kick at near the 50. So the game should be over. OSU fell asleep and PSU played hard and got some breaks including pass interference that wasn't called.
But as you said its a W.
Iowa had a bad game against PSU, along with Indiana. Mich State will improve.
So lets see how things to next year. If they lose OSU, Mich, one of the others plus PITT they're back to an average football year.
They got the breaks and capitalized. Had PITT got some breaks and won one or more of the NC, VT, Okalahoma St., close games we'd be in great shape.
Its a game of inches and taking advantage of breaks!
That's my prediction for the Nitters next season. 8-4..
 
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With new OC DC QB and no starting linebackers it took time for Psu to gel. End of season wins very decisive and well played on both sides of ball.
 
Who cares, he was a great player in high school where his height didn't hurt him, college is a different story, narduzzi is looking for a taller corner wade doesn't fit the bill, it just might take him a while to get onto the field anyway, i believe we already have as good or better cb's already on the Pitt roster
Huh.......
 
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I give PSU much credit for the win no matter the reasons. But, I watched the game, and it seemed like OSU outplayed PSU, just couldn't put the game away earlier (somewhat like Pitt game). The blocked kick, runback was the deciding TD, then PSU stopped them with the help of an obvious (no question about it) pass interference non-call. OSU would have won that game any other day (even without the yardage differential), but it was PSU's day. It is typical that PSU fans demean Pitt, and say that they should have lost close games, such as Clemson, but want to say that PSU deserved to beat OSU. You can't have it both ways. Both teams had good years, and PSU certainly finished strong, but they were definitely fortunate to beat OSU, but again, it doesn't matter, they did it.
You didn't hear from me that Pitt should have lost to Clemson. Pitt outplayed Clemson. That's why Pitt won. You beat Clemson. You beat Penn State, which I've said here several times. So at least speaking for myself, I don't take anything away from other teams' wins. Only stat they use to determine the outcome is points no matter how you get them. Last thing I'll say about the OSU / PSU game that I don't hear many people say: PSU won on that blocked kick because they played well enough in that game to allow themselves an opportunity to make a play and win, i.e. they stayed in the game. As you said, OSU couldn't put them away. That's the reason PSU won, far more than the blocked kick. If it wasn't that, it could've been a long TD pass on the ensuing drive or a pick 6. But no one play wins a game if you're not IN the game in the first place.

As for Pitt, the Pitt fans should savor their wins over both PSU and Clemson. Pitt won. Case closed. I just wish some of you here would see PSU's win over OSU the same way, putting all biases aside.
 
Yes they managed to win with the help of OSU falling asleep in the 4th.
Up 21-7 with like 12 mins to go OSU receives a PSU kick at near the 50. So the game should be over. OSU fell asleep and PSU played hard and got some breaks including pass interference that wasn't called.
But as you said its a W.
Iowa had a bad game against PSU, along with Indiana. Mich State will improve.
So lets see how things to next year. If they lose OSU, Mich, one of the others plus PITT they're back to an average football year.
They got the breaks and capitalized. Had PITT got some breaks and won one or more of the NC, VT, Okalahoma St., close games we'd be in great shape.
Its a game of inches and taking advantage of breaks!
That's my prediction for the Nitters next season. 8-4..
Ridiculous. Tell you what, if OSU "fell asleep" in the 4th quarter, then they were not the better team and didn't deserve to win. So everyone we beat just happened to have bad games, eh? That's really funny! By the way, if OSU fell asleep, then Urban's a pretty crappy coach, but we know that isn't true, is it? And as for OSU, look at some other games they played. Beat 6 - 6 NW by 4 pts. Beat 3 - 9 MSU by 1 point, a team PSU destroyed.
 
Yes, PSU's future looks bright, and Franklin deserves credit, especially after taking some heat. Pitt's future looks bright too. Pitt may never recruit as well as PSU, but they will still be competitive with Narduzzi. Some of your fans are proclaiming a 30 or more pt win over Pitt next year, but the game will be played on the field not in the stands. It should be fun.
I was THAT fan who made that prediction. But you are right. What I predict or what anyone else predicts is not at all relevant. The players will decide the game.
 
Put your money where your mouth is...I will take $100 + 30. That's what I thought....another loud mouth Ped St fan

I was THAT fan who made that prediction. But you are right. What I predict or what anyone else predicts is not at all relevant. The players will decide the game.
 
You didn't hear from me that Pitt should have lost to Clemson. Pitt outplayed Clemson. That's why Pitt won. You beat Clemson. You beat Penn State, which I've said here several times. So at least speaking for myself, I don't take anything away from other teams' wins. Only stat they use to determine the outcome is points no matter how you get them. Last thing I'll say about the OSU / PSU game that I don't hear many people say: PSU won on that blocked kick because they played well enough in that game to allow themselves an opportunity to make a play and win, i.e. they stayed in the game. As you said, OSU couldn't put them away. That's the reason PSU won, far more than the blocked kick. If it wasn't that, it could've been a long TD pass on the ensuing drive or a pick 6. But no one play wins a game if you're not IN the game in the first place.

As for Pitt, the Pitt fans should savor their wins over both PSU and Clemson. Pitt won. Case closed. I just wish some of you here would see PSU's win over OSU the same way, putting all biases aside.
All fans are biased toward their team including me and you, but a mature adult should be able to credit another team (or another person) for accomplishments. I have done that on other boards. PSU's staff and team deserve much credit for the finish to their season and the championship. Both teams have bright futures with the talented young kids on the rosters, so here's hoping the next 3 of the series are competitive and enjoyable for all fans.
 
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Let's quit this 'local studs going elsewhere' bit. We got Paris Ford, who is an absolute stud. We also got Houy, Carrigan and Sear locally. Add on to the locals of the past (Boyd, Whitehead, Hamlin, Wheeler, Pugh, and many others), and your statement doesn't hold water. Pitt didn't get Wade, they won't get them all, but they are replacing locals that leave with Florida studs and Ohio studs for example. Narduzzi will continue to get good recruits and will win with them. Mark it down.
Enuff Said !!!!!!! Some people are never happy.
 
To the nitter fans. If the NC committee seriously took your program or team seriously, PSU would be in the final four. the facts are no one thinks PSU is a better team than OSU. Or Michigan for that matter. Pitt didn't beat Clemson on a blocked FG. PSU blames injuries in not beating Michigan or Pitt. Doesn't work that way. By any measure OSU controlled the play. But not calling a TO before the FG was a bad coaching move by Meyer. And that may have cost them the game. But we will see in the Rose Bowl how the nits handle a team that has a pulse.
 
All this "what if" talk and "if the block kick didn't happen", etc.. is crazy. Bottom line is PSU is 10-2 and finished as the 5th ranked team in the country and Big Ten champions. Pitt is 8-4 and is also ranked in the top 25. You could look at both teams and say a couple plays could change the seasons. Pitt is just as close to 6-6 as they are to 10-2. Pitt came back and beat Clemson, just like PSU came back and beat OSU. If Watson doesn't force a Throw in the end zone at end of game, Clemson wins. But they did and Pitt made the pick. Just like PSU made a play and beat OSU in a come back.
 
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I don't know what happened in the OSU game because i don't watch Psu, but they are the only team to beat them so they must have played well and Franklin must have made the right moves. We are the only team to beat Clemson so the same goes for the Panthers and the Duzz. As far as recruiting, wins are important but the salesman in the recruiter is more important. Some kids want to go to a specific school since grade school, others are attracted by what a recruiter tells them. As I recall Wanny's best recruiter was not that great of a coach but he could pull in the good players.
 
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