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Paul’s VB NIL post from the FB board

Yes. Thank you. Nicely stated. College athletics are big business by the standards of normal person finances, but more or less peanuts in overall revenue/spending of major institutions. And not especially profitable. I think even the biggest volleyball fanatics understand it's never going be more than a small fraction of athletic/NIL spending, but these idiots who insist that Pitt shouldn't spend a single penny on volleyball really enjoy showcasing their lack of understanding.

Pitt should spend money on the volleyball coach and recruiting. It already spent a ton on the arena. I am simply saying that we cannot afford to spend a penny from the $20 million salary cap on non-revenue athletes. ADAG and Fisher need to find a donor to pay those salaries. If they can, great, make them all rich. But Pitt shouldn't be paying for a money-losing sport.
 
By this logic - Pitt should drop to D 3. Major college sports is not a cash cow. I’m sure Pitt - and most major college athletic programs are subsidized across the board by the schools and donors.

the program exists to drive donations, enrollment, and fan / student / alumni engagement with the school .

There is a reason ADG lumped VB w FB and MBB as the schools 3 flagship programs.

The idea that Pitt would divest from the flagship women’s program - one that is clearly extremely popular with young women and growing is just very short sighted.

Pitt is not selling widgets , it’s selling a brand. That’s the investment.

Football and Men's Basketball are indeed cash cows. Even at Pitt.

And yes, every other program should be D3 and I think soon the NCAA will allow schools to classify Olympic sports in D3. As schools spend more and more on the 2 pro sports, there will be a push to eliminate the non-revene sports. For Title IX purposes, they'd have to keep a few Olympic sports but most should be D3. It is completely non-sensical for Pitt baseball and softball to fly to Florida and California instead of playing CMU, W&J, LaRoche, etc.
 
Football and Men's Basketball are indeed cash cows. Even at Pitt.

And yes, every other program should be D3 and I think soon the NCAA will allow schools to classify Olympic sports in D3. As schools spend more and more on the 2 pro sports, there will be a push to eliminate the non-revene sports. For Title IX purposes, they'd have to keep a few Olympic sports but most should be D3. It is completely non-sensical for Pitt baseball and softball to fly to Florida and California instead of playing CMU, W&J, LaRoche, etc.
Please leave and go to a football or basketball thread and wow them there.

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Keeping those sports but relegating them to D3 status would completely violate Title IX. So there is that.

I mean schools like Pitt should keep football, men's basketball and then enough women's sports to comply with Title IX. So like 4 women's sports? So baseball, track, etc should be D3
 
I mean schools like Pitt should keep football, men's basketball and then enough women's sports to comply with Title IX. So like 4 women's sports? So baseball, track, etc should be D3


There aren't four women's sports that Pitt has that combined would balance the numbers. If Pitt kept track as a D1 sport they might be able to pull it off with five. Especially since two of the however many would clearly be volleyball and basketball, and those will only combine for 33 potential roster spots.
 
Football and Men's Basketball are indeed cash cows. Even at Pitt.

And yes, every other program should be D3 and I think soon the NCAA will allow schools to classify Olympic sports in D3. As schools spend more and more on the 2 pro sports, there will be a push to eliminate the non-revene sports. For Title IX purposes, they'd have to keep a few Olympic sports but most should be D3. It is completely non-sensical for Pitt baseball and softball to fly to Florida and California instead of playing CMU, W&J, LaRoche, etc.
There's that pesky rule that you need a minimum number of D1 sports to be a D1 school for any sport. Hey, we all think you should read a book on economics or finance or something but much like what you think about "how things should work", it ain't going to happn.
 
There's that pesky rule that you need a minimum number of D1 sports to be a D1 school for any sport.

That will be going away soon as the P4 gains more autonomy. The P4 understand they are now in the pro sports business and gymnastics and swimming are unnecessary expenses. They can be D3 and play local schools.
 
You do understand that there are some very good D1 basketball schools that don't belong to the P4 and don't have football, right?

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to those schools. I'm not sure what that has to do with the P4's dropping sports to D3 though. Maybe they will, maybe they won't but the NCAA rule is meaningless. The NCAA will do what they say. I mean even you admit it's insane that Pitt Olympic sports flies to Florida and California for conference games instead of playing WVU, MD, OSU, PSU, etc for conference games.
 
It's going to be interesting to see what happens to those schools. I'm not sure what that has to do with the P4's dropping sports to D3 though. Maybe they will, maybe they won't but the NCAA rule is meaningless. The NCAA will do what they say. I mean even you admit it's insane that Pitt Olympic sports flies to Florida and California for conference games instead of playing WVU, MD, OSU, PSU, etc for conference games.
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It's going to be interesting to see what happens to those schools. I'm not sure what that has to do with the P4's dropping sports to D3 though. Maybe they will, maybe they won't but the NCAA rule is meaningless. The NCAA will do what they say. I mean even you admit it's insane that Pitt Olympic sports flies to Florida and California for conference games instead of playing WVU, MD, OSU, PSU, etc for conference games.
P4's won't drop their Olympic sports so that blows that theory.
 
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