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I bought it because my wife and daughter like to watch bravo. Evidently if you watch those real housewives shows on peacock you get to hear the swear words and dirty language where as if it’s on the bravo from Comcast that stuff is censored

I have the game on now and Mike Terrico calls the game like he’s reading poetry. Hey, where the hell is the Swift girl.
 
Curious the difference in ratings between the two games today.
We get Peacock for free because we are Comcast Xfinity customers. That is the only reason that I am watching this game right now. I think the NFL should be ashamed of themselves for making football fans pay extra to watch this game. Just another example of GREED ruining another sport.
 
Obviously Comcast and the NFL would love for fans to pay extra for Peacock subscriptions, but I believe the long-term play is for streaming to unlock Friday and Saturday regular season broadcasts for the NFL.

Currently, they’re in-able to play within ~75mi of a high school or college football game due to the Sports Broadcasting Act. However, there’s debate over whether that’d apply to just television broadcasts or streams. The Black Friday game in New Jersey was their first “test run.”
 
We get Peacock for free because we are Comcast Xfinity customers. That is the only reason that I am watching this game right now. I think the NFL should be ashamed of themselves for making football fans pay extra to watch this game. Just another example of GREED ruining another sport.
Same here. It happened to be in the package I’ve had for a while. Otherwise I wouldn’t have seen so much as a snap.
 
I was always curious when the nfl would turn into a PPV event. It’s happening.
I think we’re trending in that direction, for three reasons:

1. Stations nationwide are decrypting ATSC 3.0 antenna TV, essentially meaning that they’re no longer broadcasting over-the-air as they upgrade to the latest technology
2. ABC (Disney+), CBS (Paramount+), and NBC (Peacock) either already offer or will soon offer local affiliates by subscribing to their highest-tier streaming service; FOX will likely be available at some point as well
3. ESPN, which is in talks to give equity to the NFL, is in the process of creating an actual direct-to-consumer streaming service for their main channel(s), which is different than ESPN+

It may soon get to the point where you have to subscribe to each of these services to watch any television, let alone NFL games. Not to mention multiple Amazon and other FAANGs getting involved.
 
I think we’re trending in that direction, for three reasons:

1. Stations nationwide are decrypting ATSC 3.0 antenna TV, essentially meaning that they’re no longer broadcasting over-the-air as they upgrade to the latest technology
2. ABC (Disney+), CBS (Paramount+), and NBC (Peacock) either already offer or will soon offer local affiliates by subscribing to their highest-tier streaming service; FOX will likely be available at some point as well
3. ESPN, which is in talks to give equity to the NFL, is in the process of creating an actual direct-to-consumer streaming service for their main channel(s), which is different than ESPN+

It may soon get to the point where you have to subscribe to each of these services to watch any television, let alone NFL games. Not to mention multiple Amazon and other FAANGs getting involved.
College football peaked in 2019 before NIL
Mess. Is nfl going to peak in 2025 then decline?
 
College football peaked in 2019 before NIL
Mess. Is nfl going to peak in 2025 then decline?
If the hypothetical peak and decline is going to revolve around streaming, it likely wouldn’t happen until 2032 because that’s when the current TV contract expires. Who knows, perhaps streaming is adopted enough by then that it wouldn’t be nearly as big of a deal. However, I’m skeptical for now because it’s certainly no longer the “affordable” option for TV/entertainment.
 
I was always curious when the nfl would turn into a PPV event. It’s happening.
The Peacock Black Friday game was something like the 6th-worst rated game of the year, including the Monday Nights with two games and the Sunday London games.
 
This is a recent article on streaming service subscribers. Many are estimates. It would be interesting to see what increase there was because of game. it said Peacock had 28 million subscribers in December. Amazon Prome has something like 250 million.

Streaming service subscribers
 
I was always curious when the nfl would turn into a PPV event. It’s happening.

I'm actually hoping that happens for all sports, because it would save me money. I pay like $235 for cable each month and I barely ever even turn my TV on other than during football season.
 
Remember that many households are core cutters. Dumping cable for an antenna and select streaming services. For them, a streamer is a small extra expense, not an add on to an already hefty cable package . The TV paradigm is shifting quickly. I didn’t like the move, but my wife convinced me to sign on. Our cable days are numbered once we evaluate the most cost effective way to have sports that we watch. Aside from sports, we watch just 3-4 cable channels.
 
The Hotel I'm staying at only had it at their sportsbook. We were busy so didn't watch it. I don't pay for it at home. They're simply selecting me out of their broadcasts, so that's fine with me. I never watch the paid services I have now. I got three free months of apples pay TV and watched about 20 minutes and decided there's nothing worth watching on it. 20 minutes of use over 3 months. Not worth it.
 
Posted in another thread about vitaiptv so I won't go overboard here. It's in expensive, $35/year all though I'm only trying it out for a month at $10. I'm interested bc of sports and yesterday proved a success. Both games had great picture quality with only a single instance of buffering for aprox 5-10 seconds.
 
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Really? I see more Pitt stuff than I ever did with Comcast.
I am taking about YTTV only.
When I first got it, I was able to see all the football games except maybe one of the smaller OOC games, all the ACC mens hoops games and a lot of the OCC games.
I was not able to see more football and mens basketball games this year than even when I was strictly Comcast.
 
I can live without the NFL I'm tired of getting nickeled and dimed to watch specific games or shows for that matter.
 
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We get Peacock for free because we are Comcast Xfinity customers. That is the only reason that I am watching this game right now. I think the NFL should be ashamed of themselves for making football fans pay extra to watch this game. Just another example of GREED ruining another sport.
Problem is people are willing to pay. Until the fans say no with their wallets any sport is going to keep going for more.
 
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Remember that many households are core cutters. Dumping cable for an antenna and select streaming services. For them, a streamer is a small extra expense, not an add on to an already hefty cable package . The TV paradigm is shifting quickly. I didn’t like the move, but my wife convinced me to sign on. Our cable days are numbered once we evaluate the most cost effective way to have sports that we watch. Aside from sports, we watch just 3-4 cable channels.

I cut the cord about 4 years ago and now it is more fragmented and expensive than cable. They will make their money one way or another
 
Playoffs at designated Neutral sites.
More games on streaming services.
A Super Bowl on foreign soil, and I don’t mean Toronto.
And we will swallow hard and accept all of it.
 
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Once I have to pay, my watching of NFL is over. Will find something else. I don’t pay for any type of tv now whether it be cable, Amazon, peacock, ESPN or other streaming and not going to for just watching an NFL game. I am sure I am in minority but that is how my dollars will speak.
NFL loves the fan who pays for year of peacock to watch a playoff game of out of market teams.
 
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Only a matter of time before the Super Bowl is a ppv event only
People have been paying a cable bill for years. I’d rather pay $65 for a streaming service that I want along with some add on services that total $25 as opposed to $140 for cable. If we consider that paying to watch the playoffs and Super Bowl then I’m not sure what the big deal is.
 
People have been paying a cable bill for years. I’d rather pay $65 for a streaming service that I want along with some add on services that total $25 as opposed to $140 for cable. If we consider that paying to watch the playoffs and Super Bowl then I’m not sure what the big deal is.
YOu have to factor in fast enough Internet to make the streaming services able to be watched.
 
I graduated in April 1977 and wanted to get some sales experience to pair up with my Pitt degree in communications. I was selling cable TV hook ups in the evening for New Ken cable. You had to work the evening because that when the man of the house would be home for work. The cost to hook up cable for the customer was $10 per month. For that monthly fee the customer would get crystal clear KDKA, WIIC, WTAE, WQED, and Fox 53 was just coming into existence. The hope was also a few more channels in the future. No more rabbit ears and aluminum foil to capture a clear signal.

My commission was $10 for each subscription sold so this was a chance to make some great money. This was not easy either to conceptually sell something that just seemed way to technically advanced for the consumer to understand plus you were asking them for 10 per month when what they were currently getting was free. Anyways, I got my pitch down pretty good because it was hard to explain and took time and I needed to hustle. After the first two weeks I decided to change my strategy. I was getting 3-4 contracts each evening but was knocking on 20 doors to do so. Plus once it got dark it was time to quit because nobody wanted to answer their door.

I discovered that holding a bunch of contracts in my hand from the night before would help to substantiate my sales pitch and get more commitments quicker. The pitch was simple “This cable thing is going to make your television viewing so much better today and in the future and besides, here is a list of some of your neighbors that are signed up. That was the clincher. Nobody wanted to be left behind or appear cheap in the neighborhood. After this strategy incorporated into the basic feature and benefit I was locking up 10-15 agreements per night. I was making twice as much money in the three hours in the evening than I was making during the 8 hours during the day.

This reminds me of the current streaming situation. At some point we are all going to switch and dump cable and for me it’s probably going to be when I feel like an idiot because I’m still paying $240 per month for cable when all of my adult kids and relatives are paying half of that for a few streaming services and an internet provider wrapped in.

All true ! LOL. And I ended up being in sales and sales management and retired at 62.
 
I graduated in April 1977 and wanted to get some sales experience to pair up with my Pitt degree in communications. I was selling cable TV hook ups in the evening for New Ken cable. You had to work the evening because that when the man of the house would be home for work. The cost to hook up cable for the customer was $10 per month. For that monthly fee the customer would get crystal clear KDKA, WIIC, WTAE, WQED, and Fox 53 was just coming into existence. The hope was also a few more channels in the future. No more rabbit ears and aluminum foil to capture a clear signal.

My commission was $10 for each subscription sold so this was a chance to make some great money. This was not easy either to conceptually sell something that just seemed way to technically advanced for the consumer to understand plus you were asking them for 10 per month when what they were currently getting was free. Anyways, I got my pitch down pretty good because it was hard to explain and took time and I needed to hustle. After the first two weeks I decided to change my strategy. I was getting 3-4 contracts each evening but was knocking on 20 doors to do so. Plus once it got dark it was time to quit because nobody wanted to answer their door.

I discovered that holding a bunch of contracts in my hand from the night before would help to substantiate my sales pitch and get more commitments quicker. The pitch was simple “This cable thing is going to make your television viewing so much better today and in the future and besides, here is a list of some of your neighbors that are signed up. That was the clincher. Nobody wanted to be left behind or appear cheap in the neighborhood. After this strategy incorporated into the basic feature and benefit I was locking up 10-15 agreements per night. I was making twice as much money in the three hours in the evening than I was making during the 8 hours during the day.

This reminds me of the current streaming situation. At some point we are all going to switch and dump cable and for me it’s probably going to be when I feel like an idiot because I’m still paying $240 per month for cable when all of my adult kids and relatives are paying half of that for a few streaming services and an internet provider wrapped in.

All true ! LOL. And I ended up being in sales and sales management and retired at 62.
Pretty interesting, but you aren’t really paying $240 a month for “cable”. You are paying for cable and INTERNET. You still need Internet and if you go it alone with whomever your provider is you probably are going to pay $100 or more for a fast enough internet to survive streaming. To me YouTube TV is the best service because it is almost like cable with the channels you get. But it is almost $80 a month. So to add in a couple of more streaming services like Netflix and Hulu and Whatnot, you are going to be about the same cost. I love cutting the cord but I realize it’s not perfect. Like just today when I am watching Cowboy v Packers and my Daughter texts Wow, I think we are swicthing to something else, and then I see the pick six about a minute later. Cable is still faster. But hey I am going with the new era.
 
Get a fast internet connection and get an IPTV service. Run it off Fire stick or Roku. Done.
You get everything with IPTV. Mine gets me PPV events too. Plus tens of thousands of on demand movies. All series from Netflix, Hulu, Amazon prime, Apple tv. Local network affiliates from just about every city in America. And around the world too. I have 20000 odd channels.
 
I graduated in April 1977 and wanted to get some sales experience to pair up with my Pitt degree in communications. I was selling cable TV hook ups in the evening for New Ken cable. You had to work the evening because that when the man of the house would be home for work. The cost to hook up cable for the customer was $10 per month. For that monthly fee the customer would get crystal clear KDKA, WIIC, WTAE, WQED, and Fox 53 was just coming into existence. The hope was also a few more channels in the future. No more rabbit ears and aluminum foil to capture a clear signal.

My commission was $10 for each subscription sold so this was a chance to make some great money. This was not easy either to conceptually sell something that just seemed way to technically advanced for the consumer to understand plus you were asking them for 10 per month when what they were currently getting was free. Anyways, I got my pitch down pretty good because it was hard to explain and took time and I needed to hustle. After the first two weeks I decided to change my strategy. I was getting 3-4 contracts each evening but was knocking on 20 doors to do so. Plus once it got dark it was time to quit because nobody wanted to answer their door.

I discovered that holding a bunch of contracts in my hand from the night before would help to substantiate my sales pitch and get more commitments quicker. The pitch was simple “This cable thing is going to make your television viewing so much better today and in the future and besides, here is a list of some of your neighbors that are signed up. That was the clincher. Nobody wanted to be left behind or appear cheap in the neighborhood. After this strategy incorporated into the basic feature and benefit I was locking up 10-15 agreements per night. I was making twice as much money in the three hours in the evening than I was making during the 8 hours during the day.

This reminds me of the current streaming situation. At some point we are all going to switch and dump cable and for me it’s probably going to be when I feel like an idiot because I’m still paying $240 per month for cable when all of my adult kids and relatives are paying half of that for a few streaming services and an internet provider wrapped in.

All true ! LOL. And I ended up being in sales and sales management and retired at 62.
WPGH 53 was so great when I was a kid. Fox 53 did not exist till the late 80’s or 90’s IIRC
 
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