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Penn State maybe not so BIG in the future

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Local media reporting Penn State which has 20 Branch Campuses distributed around the state is potentially looking at closing 12 Branch Campuses.

Whatever the final decision, no Penn State campus will close before the 2026-2027 school year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Local media reporting Penn State which has 20 Branch Campuses distributed around the state is potentially looking at closing 12 Branch Campuses.

Whatever the final decision, no Penn State campus will close before the 2026-2027 school year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Do me a favor, close all 20 branch campuses and the main one too.
 
Local media reporting Penn State which has 20 Branch Campuses distributed around the state is potentially looking at closing 12 Branch Campuses.

Whatever the final decision, no Penn State campus will close before the 2026-2027 school year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Man, little brother syndrome sucks. I hate PSU football and a lot of their older fans who tend to be JoePa ass sucking apologists. Other than that PSU is a good university and an asset to Pennsylvania. This parochial nonsense is just silly.
 
Man, little brother syndrome sucks. I hate PSU football and a lot of their older fans who tend to be JoePa ass sucking apologists. Other than that PSU is a good university and an asset to Pennsylvania. This parochial nonsense is just silly.
Yes, Pitt's degenerate little brother has been quite disturbing for some time. Of course, I mean little brother in age, stature, morality, and wisdom, just not size...at least since he greedily let himself go and is now suffering the consequences of an unrestrained accumulation of gluttonous quantities of whatever he could get its hands on with nary a concern for maintaining any standards. All the warnings of the unrestrained expansion and diploma mill mindset are now coming home to roost.
 
Yes, Pitt's degenerate little brother has been quite disturbing for some time. Of course, I mean little brother in age, stature, morality, and wisdom, just not size...at least since he greedily let himself go and is now suffering the consequences of an unrestrained accumulation of gluttonous quantities of whatever he could get its hands on with nary a concern for maintaining any standards. All the warnings of the unrestrained expansion and diploma mill mindset are now coming home to roost.
Who knew?
 
This place will die if PSU ceases to exist. Apparently ever other post is about them.

Seriously. A thread about branch campuses of another school?
PSU has sapped state resources and begged the legislature to cut Pitt off to do things like keep operating the branch campus mess under the lie that they had to keep making education accessible to underserved communities. Now, those campuses are not profitable enough so they're going to leave those communities in the dust and probably still try to get Pitt pushed aside. It really is important to us as both taxpayers and as people who love Pittsburgh's university.
 
Yeah, the branch campuses are a mess, and a deeply inefficient way to approach higher education. Might have had their time and place when many of them were founded pre-1950, but not anymore. More than half of them, and close to two thirds, have fewer than 1,000 students.

For reference, now that Pitt has functionally divested from being the primary operator of Titusville, each of Pitt’s three regional campuses have more than 1,300 students - basically the same size as Penn State Altoona or Erie, which are among their larger campuses.

It’s just an inertia thing where nobody wants to be the one to make the difficult decision to merge or close some of these, but it needs to be done. That’s not like a “ripping on Penn State” thing, it’s just common sense.

And, to be fair, some of those smaller campuses have some perfectly fine niche programs - I know that DuBois specializes in wildlife management and has educated a large number of the state government’s wildlife professionals for the Game and Fish & Boat Commissions, and Mont Alto was devised as and still does have a well developed forestry program. Those are important and meaningful programs, but I do think it’s probably worth trying to figure out a way to make the whole thing so much more efficient.
 
PSU has a branch campus in our community.

It is also known by many as "13th Grade", so most local graduating seniors won't consider it except as a last resort.

The current speculation is that this branch will have to close in 2027.
 
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higher education needs scaled back. there are close to 5,000 colleges or universities in this country, that's absolutely ridiculous.
I'd argue higher education doesn't necessarily need scaled back in terms of number of schools, but needs reimagined. There are some schools that with tuition and room & board are like $100k per year. That's insane. Where in the world is that money going?
 
Ups's branch campuses are nothing more than glorified high schools. Degrees are toilet paper nothing more. Get them closed and let the local schools do there job at a far cheaper price.
 
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Yes, Pitt's degenerate little brother has been quite disturbing for some time. Of course, I mean little brother in age, stature, morality, and wisdom, just not size...at least since he greedily let himself go and is now suffering the consequences of an unrestrained accumulation of gluttonous quantities of whatever he could get its hands on with nary a concern for maintaining any standards. All the warnings of the unrestrained expansion and diploma mill mindset are now coming home to roost.

I read something on the worse colleges in PA for postgraduate outcomes. I remember Shippensburg was the worst school in PA but the pedst branch campuses were littered all over the rankings.
 
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Doesn't surprise me to see perverts branch
campuses all over the worst schools in the state.
What has always been crazy to me and defines PSU's academic standard is the fact that they boast about having over 200 (I even heard 250) degree programs?? Seriously, I know someone who majored in golf management. Obviously programs are watered down.
 
What has always been crazy to me and defines PSU's academic standard is the fact that they boast about having over 200 (I even heard 250) degree programs?? Seriously, I know someone who majored in golf management. Obviously programs are watered down.


The world needs ditch diggers too.
 
I’m by no means versed in higher education, but it doesn’t make sense to have two dozen branch campuses in today’s climate (e.g., online learning, declining enrollment, increased operation costs).

If I were them, I’d eliminate all of their system campuses (or all of them, period ;)) and move everything to Hershey, where their school of medicine is located, creating an institution akin to IUPUI, UIC, etc.
 
I'd argue higher education doesn't necessarily need scaled back in terms of number of schools
Really? For example does PSU need a branch campus in Erie, Beaver, New Ken, Dubois and Altoona? Like every hour's drive away? When the numbers are so low, like 500 students, Can that be efficient?
 
Really? For example does PSU need a branch campus in Erie, Beaver, New Ken, Dubois and Altoona? Like every hour's drive away? When the numbers are so low, like 500 students, Can that be efficient?
About 35 or so years ago, the PSSHE schools all begged for PSU not to be allowed to covert all their 2 year community college-like branches into 4 year schools. Many overlapped territory with the state schools, but the PSU branches were much worse in what they offered as they were still only 2-year schools with no admission standards that pumped students into University Park. The PSSHE schools were, and still are, all much better, more developed, full residential colleges with robust academic offerings unlike PSU's schools which today have largely token 4-year offerings, little in the way facilities, little student housing, etc.

And this is what you get 30 years later: 2 broken systems.
 
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Careful. My brother went to UPJ and he called it 13th Grade too.
Everyone's local college is "13th grade", but there is no comparison between what UPJ offers and what any of the PSU branches offer, academicly, facilities-wise, or athleticly, except maybe for Erie.

All 3 of Pitt's regional campuses are really geared to being self-contained 4 year colleges, all have substantial campuses, athletic programs, and student resources, and none are intended to be feeder schools used to circumvent admission standards. Not that they are doing great either, but they are in a very different category than the vast majority of PSU's branches.
 
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Went to UPJ back in the 70's.
School was well respect in nursing and engineering. It was a solid academic institution.
Still one of the nicer campuses around.
 
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Man, little brother syndrome sucks. I hate PSU football and a lot of their older fans who tend to be JoePa ass sucking apologists. Other than that PSU is a good university and an asset to Pennsylvania. This parochial nonsense is just silly.
Outside of Altoona, what assets really? Selling extra psu hats at local Dicks to wear to st patricks day parade? Providing staff for local newspaper, tv station? Environmental/Agriculture research? Thon? I mean, what?
 
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Wouldn’t it make more sense for you to spend your time on the Penn State message boards talking with your own fans?

I’ll admit that I can’t stand PSU, but I don’t spend time posting on their board.
That you think I’m a Penn State is quite pitthetic and Jan Brady of you. What year did you flunk out of Pitt?
 
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About 35 or so years ago, the PSSHE schools all begged for PSU not to be allowed to covert all their 2 year community college-like branches into 4 year schools. Many overlapped territory with the state schools, but the PSU branches were much worse in what they offered as they were still only 2-year schools with no admission standards that pumped students into University Park. The PSSHE schools were, and still are, all much better, more developed, full residential colleges with robust academic offerings unlike PSU's schools which today have largely token 4-year offerings, little in the way facilities, little student housing, etc.

And this is what you get 30 years later: 2 broken systems.
Some of the branches are better than others. I can speak for Altoona and I'm sure you've seen the changes to that campus over the years. If they took down all of the signs that told you where you were, you'd think you were on just about any other D3 campus in the Commonwealth. And it really doesn't overlap with the footprint of any PASSHE schools. I would agree that you can get a better education in many of the 4-year degree offerings elsewhere but it's a fully functioning campus that could legitimately stand alone. Only real outward difference that you see is that there are still a lot of commuter students which makes it more affordable if you live locally. Still, the area would be much better served it if was a stand alone school and not watered down as a branch campus.

Most of the campuses are exactly what you describe and a lot of people openly recommend taking courses at the branch campuses because they are easier than the same courses at main. Anyone who argues that is lying. A lot of branch campus transfers get smacked in the face when they get to University Park.
 
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