Pitt checks in at #22

[Sean Miller Fan]

in the only rankings that matter, the NET.

Duquesne is 79, SLU is 48. Those are 2 good Top 100 wins on neutral floors.

Have #259 Niagara tonight and #88 WVU on Saturday.

Obviously still too early to make too much of this but its better to be 22 than 122 right now. The NET math likes something about us.

 

[whirlybird optio]

in the only rankings that matter, the NET.

Duquesne is 79, SLU is 48. Those are 2 good Top 100 wins on neutral floors.

Have #259 Niagara tonight and #88 WVU on Saturday.

Obviously still too early to make too much of this but its better to be 22 than 122 right now. The NET math likes something about us.

I doubt this matters, but I think we are 7-1 against the spread, which shows we are exceeding someone's expectations on a game to game basis.

Even if we lose to WVU, if we win out at home, with the St. Louis win I think we would absolutely be in the "bubble" conversation if we could somehow get to 8 ACC wins.

Can we go 6-3 at home and win 2/3 of these 5 road games: BC/Wake/Clemson/GT/NC St??? I mean...maybe?

We might be good.

 

[levance2]

its better to be 22 than 122 right now.

Why, exactly?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Why, exactly?

Because if we were 7-1 and ranked #122, it probably means we have played a worse schedule meaning it would be tougher to move up

 

[rockypanther]

in the only rankings that matter, the NET.

Duquesne is 79, SLU is 48. Those are 2 good Top 100 wins on neutral floors.

Have #259 Niagara tonight and #88 WVU on Saturday.

Obviously still too early to make too much of this but its better to be 22 than 122 right now. The NET math likes something about us.

Sorry for not knowing but what is the NET?

 

[Pitt79]

Why, exactly?

Why not? It sure beats last year, I'll take it.

 

[billstadt]

Sorry for not knowing but what is the NET?

Ranking system developed by the German statistician Herr Net.

 

[ScrantonicityIII]

Sorry for not knowing but what is the NET?

Nicaraguan Entertainment Television

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Rankings this time of year mean nothing. And this ranking, whatever it is, seems suspect as an accurate one, even if its done much later in the year. Let's just wait and see what we do going into January and February during the league schedule. We still don't know enough about this team yet.

 

[Pitt2006]

Regression to the mean will occur and in a good way....We have been steadily rising in both the BPI and Sagarin ratings. BPI actually ranks us as having the 48th best resume, despite us having a low BPI in general. I think the discrepancy is that most methods would use last year as a starting barometer for this season. That should work for most teams, but we essentially have 5 new players (e.g., Johnson, N'Dir, Ellison, Toney, and McGowens) with a lot of unknowns regarding chemistry and productivity that even Vegas is having a hard time accounting for in their lines.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

They finally got thru to the Technology Help Yourself Desk in India, found someone who could understand the people manning the Technology Help Yourself Desk in India and got their new computer fired up.

PITT # 22 congrats to Coach Capel, XMan and team!

 

[PittMBA]

in the only rankings that matter, the NET.

Duquesne is 79, SLU is 48. Those are 2 good Top 100 wins on neutral floors.

Have #259 Niagara tonight and #88 WVU on Saturday.

Obviously still too early to make too much of this but its better to be 22 than 122 right now. The NET math likes something about us.

Sorry for not knowing but what is the NET?

It’s essentially the new RPI for selecting and seeding the NCAA tournament

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Ranking system developed by the German statistician Herr Net.

American English translation = "Hairnet"

 

[PittMBA]

in the only rankings that matter, the NET.

Duquesne is 79, SLU is 48. Those are 2 good Top 100 wins on neutral floors.

Have #259 Niagara tonight and #88 WVU on Saturday.

Obviously still too early to make too much of this but its better to be 22 than 122 right now. The NET math likes something about us.

I doubt this matters, but I think we are 7-1 against the spread, which shows we are exceeding someone's expectations on a game to game basis.

Even if we lose to WVU, if we win out at home, with the St. Louis win I think we would absolutely be in the "bubble" conversation if we could somehow get to 8 ACC wins.

Can we go 6-3 at home and win 2/3 of these 5 road games: BC/Wake/Clemson/GT/NC St??? I mean...maybe?

We might be good.

The first 2 weeks of January could be really important-
I feel like our ACC schedule is front loaded- UNC, Lville 2x, FSU, at NCST, at Cuse, Duke before Jan 29th - back 1/2 of the schedule eases up - in theory.

If they could get to 3-4 in that first 7- they might have something.

Before the season started I though 0-7 seemed very possible to start ACC play. Now, I wonder rather than a dire way to start, it might be an opportunity to set up a competitive ACC season. Can they, say, go 2-2 at home and steal a road game on that first 7?

 

[FireballZ]

The first 2 weeks of January could be really important-
I feel like our ACC schedule is front loaded- UNC, Lville 2x, FSU, at NCST, at Cuse, Duke before Jan 29th - back 1/2 of the schedule eases up - in theory.

If they could get to 3-4 in that first 7- they might have something.

Before the season started I though 0-7 seemed very possible to start ACC play. Now, I wonder rather than a dire way to start, it might be an opportunity to set up a competitive ACC season. Can they, say, go 2-2 at home and steal a road game on that first 7?

Man, I feel like 2-5 would be a herculean effort. Cuse looks much better now that they are healthy.

 

[wbrpanther]

Rankings this time of year mean nothing. And this ranking, whatever it is, seems suspect as an accurate one, even if its done much later in the year. Let's just wait and see what we do going into January and February during the league schedule. We still don't know enough about this team yet.

Yeah. We all know that.

 

[wbrpanther]

Man, I feel like 2-5 would be a herculean effort. Cuse looks much better now that they are healthy.

Since we didn't win an ACC game last year I would be happy to grab 2 of those 7 games. Rome wasn't built in day.

 

[FireballZ]

Since we didn't win an ACC game last year I would be happy to grab 2 of those 7 games. Rome wasn't built in day.

Absolutely, I wasn't knocking the idea of 2-5 in that stretch, especially if we're competitive in the loses. I don't think there are many teams in the country that could go above .500 across that slate.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Regression to the mean will occur and in a good way....We have been steadily rising in both the BPI and Sagarin ratings. BPI actually ranks us as having the 48th best resume, despite us having a low BPI in general. I think the discrepancy is that most methods would use last year as a starting barometer for this season. That should work for most teams, but we essentially have 5 new players (e.g., Johnson, N'Dir, Ellison, Toney, and McGowens) with a lot of unknowns regarding chemistry and productivity that even Vegas is having a hard time accounting for in their lines.

Yep. Sagarin after all games through yesterday has us #76 overall rating (with pre-season expectations still a factor) and #46 in the "recent" games rating.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

in the only rankings that matter, the NET.

Is this going to be one of those things that you keep repeating even though it's not true?

Because it is actually untrue, you know.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Is this going to be one of those things that you keep repeating even though it's not true?

Because it is actually untrue, you know.

They use it to determine the quadrants for quality wins and it is the "primary" evaluation tools. For sure, we know the polls don't mean anything.

 

[levance2]

Because if we were 7-1 and ranked #122, it probably means we have played a worse schedule meaning it would be tougher to move up

I would contend that we're buoyed in this system by playing a very weak SOS. Right now, Pomeroy ranks our schedule to date at #337. NET includes a margin of victory capped at 10, and we've won 5/8 games by 9+. Not to mention that our weak SOS has allowed us the 7-1 record, which almost certainly is the biggest factor. Only 4 of the top-30 NET teams have more than one loss, and none of those are home losses. OSU (#20) is the highest ranked team to lose at home.

Even in RPI, our SOS is only #160. It's pretty bizarre that you're arguing that this OOC SOS was any good at all. We've got 3 more games left against teams 250+.

 

[GomerTV]

Ranking system developed by the German statistician Herr Net.

And daughter Aqua

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

They use it to determine the quadrants for quality wins and it is the "primary" evaluation tools. For sure, we know the polls don't mean anything.

Of course the polls don't. And it remains to be seen what they new team sheets will look like. But last year the team sheets had Sagarin, Pomeroy and ESPN's rankings on them. And clearly some members use them. If it happens, and I don't believe that it will, but if it happens at the end of the season that Pitt is ranked 22 in the NET rankings and something like 88 in Sagrin, 92 in Pomeroy and 97 in ESPN then we are not going to be a six seed in the NCAA tournament as our NET ranking would suggest, we are going to be on the outside looking in because the committee will see that we are an example of the new system they came up with not working the way it is supposed to work.

Again, I don't think that's what is going to happen, and clearly the NCAA would like the NET rankings to work out and be the most important rankings, but even if that is true there will still be other rankings considered by committee members.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Pitt fell to 80, 1 spot ahead of TCU. WVU is 90 FWIW