2-2 at half vs #7 Cuse. Really good game. Both teams dangerous. Syracuse more dangerous in possession while Pitt is dangerous off the counter.
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Syracuse scored early in the second half to go up 3-2, and then Pitt took a red card to go down a man in the 65th.
Been watching in and out while watching Pirates.
Has this game been more physical than the average bear?
I didn’t really notice it being more physical. But of course we took 2 red cards toward the end. But by that point, I was falling asleep and didn’t see either.
Their RPI is #16 right now, so I’d think they’re pretty comfortably in the field unless the wheels fall off.
They are 4-3-3 but have to .500 to make the NCAAT. So although the RPI is excellent, they have to beat Duquesne and at least go 1-3 vs #6 ND, #7 Duke #16 UVa, and #27 VT. If they go 1-3, they'd have to win their 1st Round ACC Tournament game to make it. 1-2-1 would also work. As would 0-2-2. Or 0-1-3. Or 0-0-4.
Huge come from behind to win because as crazy as this sounds, they are on the "bubble" because they need to finish .500 or better despite having a great RPI. The Cilli to McIntyre to Feitosa back heel flick goal was as good of a goal as you'd see at any level anywhere.
Important draw vs Duke. At 6-4-4, you would think that this draw clinches an NCAAT bid and if they're in it, they can win it. Though this isnt one of Jay's best teams. While I wouldn't be surprised if they made the College Cup, I wouldn't be surprised if they lost in the Round of 32. Even if they lose at ND and the 1st Round of ACCT, they should get in at 6-6-4. Nice crowd tonight. All seats were full and people standing. Not the biggest I've seen but really nice considering the weather and Pitt and general soccer fans had other options with Pitt football on TV and the Hounds in the playoffs a few miles away.
At this point the team with as good a chance as anyone of winning the national championship would be the 9th seed in the ACC tournament, which means not even getting a first round home game, if the current results hold.
At this point they are probably closer to not making the tournament at all than they are winning the national championship.
4-0 half way through the second half. If they don't stage the comeback of the century tonight they better win that first game of the ACC tournament or some people are going to be sweating bullets on selection day.
Fortunately Wake gets a late goal to tie Louisville, which should get us an 8th place finish in the conference and a home game in the first round of the ACC tournament.
Of course win that one and we'll get a game on the road against the number one seed, which is, ah, Notre Dame.
Uh-oh.
Of course win that one and we'll get a game on the road against the number one seed, which is, ah, Notre Dame.
Uh-oh.
I turned it off after they gave up the youth league goal to go down 1-0. They build it out of the back all the time by passing it right up the middle to the #6 and then he passes it to one of the fullbacks. The risk here is that a bad pass or bad touch results in a breakaway. Gave one up against Duke last week but the kid missed. The ND player didn't. I dont know why they need to build out this way. I guess it wouldn't have mattered.
For me, not a lot changes. If they get in it, they can win it. But this is clearly Jay's weakest side in 4-5 years. He didnt bring in a star from overseas. Some good players but no stars.
Funny you said that about the youth league goal. I thought the same thing when it happened. But that wasn’t just youth league, that’s like in-house U-8 youth league stuff straight away. But shit, even my Chelsea did the same thing last week vs Arsenal. They were up 2-0 and did that in the 70th minute, and 5 minutes later it was 2-2 and we dropped two points. So it happens to the best of them. Of course chelsea isn’t exactly the best of them right now. And neither is Pitt. There will be no trophies in Oakland or west London this year.
A lot of teams try to hit that #6 and build out that way. But in the pros, you know the GK is going to make a good pass and that #6's first touch will be perfect. These are American-ish college kids. The passes wont always be perfect. The first touch wont always be perfect. So they shouldn't be building out that way unless there's no pressure at all on that #6 but teams no what they are doing and Duke should have scored on the same play last week.
Pitt has now played 8 teams that were ranked in the poll this week. They've won exactly one of those games (the 3-0 pounding of Wake Forest). They have been outscored in those eight games by a combined 18-8.
If that doesn't scream "as good a chance to win the tournament as anyone else" I don't know what would.
If that doesn't scream "as good a chance to win the tournament as anyone else" I don't know what would.
Pitt has now played 8 teams that were ranked in the poll this week. They've won exactly one of those games (the 3-0 pounding of Wake Forest). They have been outscored in those eight games by a combined 18-8.
If that doesn't scream "as good a chance to win the tournament as anyone else" I don't know what would.
The ND games and Gtown games were disasters. They arent low major bad as those scores would indicate. Their 5 losses are to RPI #1, 2, 5, 6, and 29. 4 of the 5 on the road. That's a ridiculous schedule.
It is a tough schedule. But merely playing a bunch of tough teams doesn't prove that you are good. You have to beat some of them.
And so far we've won all but seven of the eight.
They have wins over 10 and 31 and ties with 15, 20, and 35. They've done enough to show they can beat anyone on a given night. 5 in a row? Really tough but a chance
In college soccer, where the clock stops after a goal, I do not understand some players feeling the need to grab the ball out of the goal, especially taking it from an opponent, and take it to the center spot. If our guy doesn't needlessly try to do that, none of that scuffle happens.
They simply ought to put a rule in place, after a goal if a player from the team that scored the goal goes into the net and attempts to pick up the ball, automatic yellow card.
They simply ought to put a rule in place, after a goal if a player from the team that scored the goal goes into the net and attempts to pick up the ball, automatic yellow card.
Can't beat Louisville at home, but just as good a chance to win a national championship as anyone.
PBP guy just said Pitt is secure for the NCAA tourney but this was unreal. How do you reel off 5 post season wins when you went 6-6-4 during the year?
It’s what’s both good and bad about soccer. Pitt peppers their keeper for 55 minutes. One shot after another. One chance after another but can’t beat him. Louisville gets a goal against the run of play and goes up in OT. This stuff happens all the time.
That goals going on sportscenter top 10. Do they still have that? I haven’t watched sportscenter in 15 years.
Yeah, he said that. And they may make it. But I will guarantee you this. The Pitt players and the Pitt coaches and any Pitt fans with a functioning brain will be sweating it out on selection day.
They might make it, but it is in no way, shape or form a guarantee.
Which has always been my NET and Big12 argument. Just because you play what’s deemed as a good team, doesn’t mean that your ranking should go up or that you should be overvalued. You gotta win some of those games.
Yeah, I thought Pitt looked like the better team and controlled most of the game.
I was nervous when it went into OT that something like that would happen (or PKs). A dumb turnover in the midfield and the goalie pretty far off the line - presumably to allow the back line to push up higher to score a goal. Crazy there was no scoring in regulation and then like 3 goals in just a couple of minutes.
Unfortunately you see it so often that when Pitt couldn’t beat their keeper, you knew it wasn’t going to end well in OT or penalties.
Your NET doesn't go up just by playing a good team. Your RPI can, but your NET will only go up if you play better than you were expected to play. And that's the same no matter the opponent.
There's more to it, but basically if you lose to a good team by more than you were supposed to your rating will go down. If NET thinks you should lose to a good team by three points and you lose by 23 points your NET is going to go down. If NET thinks you should beat a bad team by 20 points and you win by 30 your NET will improve. On the other hand, if NET thinks you should lose to a good team by 10 and you lose by two your NET will (likely) go up, because you outperformed expectations.
The RPI was different. The RPI didn't care whether a game was close or not. You could lose to the number one team in the country by 50 points, and just because you played the number one team in the country your RPI would go up. On the other hand, you could beat a bad team by 50 points, or 60, or 80, or 100, and your RPI would go down. How well you played had nothing to do with it, only THAT you played.
That's why basketball gave up the RPI, because at it's core it doesn't make any sense. How well you played, or didn't play, never comes into play.
But teams get credit from the committee for those quadrant 1 and 2 games. There were teams with horrible records in Quadrant 1 and 2 who were the apple of bracketologist and committee eyes.
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