Pitt should've never fired Wanny and...?

[revampedpanthers]

If Walt had the support Narduzzi had with money for assistants etc....Pitt would have gone farther
than we think...not top 10, but perennial top 25. Walt was the only coach pitt hired that actually had a system that took advantage of recruiting deficits. Walt had a keen eye for wr,rb talent and his system made average qbs good....pistal Pete, Rutherford,priestly were all good qbs. QBs could excell in his system, and ever since, we have had zero qbs except Palko....

This is what Pitt is missing...someone who can Taylor a system to the type of recruit pitt can get.
Boise St does this well as Univ of Toledo.....

Jmho

Agree and its something WVU has always done well also. they know they don't have the ability to recruit top 20 classes so they have always run quirky type of offenses and defense(they have been running the 3-3-5 for what seems like forever)

 

[DiehardPanther]

If Walt had the support Narduzzi had with money for assistants etc....Pitt would have gone farther
than we think...not top 10, but perennial top 25. Walt was the only coach pitt hired that actually had a system that took advantage of recruiting deficits. Walt had a keen eye for wr,rb talent and his system made average qbs good....pistal Pete, Rutherford,priestly were all good qbs. QBs could excell in his system, and ever since, we have had zero qbs except Palko....

This is what Pitt is missing...someone who can Taylor a system to the type of recruit pitt can get.
Boise St does this well as Univ of Toledo.....

Jmho

Jason Candle at Toledo is a very good coach.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

But it was obvious that the 9 and 10 win seasons were the outliers. You forget to mention the 5, 6 and 5 win season. You, like all the other Wanny fetishists, give him credit for a win that he didn't earn. And you completely miss the context of when he was getting those wins. We played one team that was ranked at the time we played them all season long in 2009. We only played two teams that were in the end of the year rankings, and we lost them both. Even by Big East standards the league was not good at all that year. Our five no-conference games were Youngstown State, Buffalo, Navy, an NC State team that won two ACC games that year, and a six win Notre Dame team. In other words, the schedule was pathetic. The schedule in the nine win season wasn't any better. Again, two teams ranked when we played them, one of which was a South Florida team that ended up winning two conference games all season. The highest ranked team we played in the final poll was Cincinnati, who ended up 17th and who beat us.

All those years proved was what some people here, most notably steel, have argued for years. If you play a completely crappy schedule but you beat the crappy teams that in the end no one will remember how bad the schedule was. You'd think that at least Pitt fans might remember how bad the teams that Pitt played were, but it's pretty clear that is not the case when you see all the Pitt fans pining away for Mr. Mediocrity.

It also shows that you can beat up on easy non conference opponents all you want and because we're Pitt/not a national title contender, what you really need to do is win your conference. And having too many players arrested and winning 0 conference titles is what got Wanny fired.

And if Narduzzi can't at least win the division in 2019, he may get fired too. Our division is not all world beaters, to put it nicely.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

But it was obvious that the 9 and 10 win seasons were the outliers. You forget to mention the 5, 6 and 5 win season. You, like all the other Wanny fetishists, give him credit for a win that he didn't earn. And you completely miss the context of when he was getting those wins. We played one team that was ranked at the time we played them all season long in 2009. We only played two teams that were in the end of the year rankings, and we lost them both. Even by Big East standards the league was not good at all that year. Our five no-conference games were Youngstown State, Buffalo, Navy, an NC State team that won two ACC games that year, and a six win Notre Dame team. In other words, the schedule was pathetic. The schedule in the nine win season wasn't any better. Again, two teams ranked when we played them, one of which was a South Florida team that ended up winning two conference games all season. The highest ranked team we played in the final poll was Cincinnati, who ended up 17th and who beat us.

All those years proved was what some people here, most notably steel, have argued for years. If you play a completely crappy schedule but you beat the crappy teams that in the end no one will remember how bad the schedule was. You'd think that at least Pitt fans might remember how bad the teams that Pitt played were, but it's pretty clear that i not the case when you see all the Pitt fans pining away for Mr. Mediocrity.

First off I don't have a Wanny fetish , but I do have a winning fetish which isn't being fulfilled by Pitt Fb . Like I've said I'd have no issue with a coaching change if it was for the better , but Pitt hasn't been better after DW departure . All Pitt needed under DW were better coordinators with more game day responsibilities . Had I been the AD that is the conversation I'd have with Wanny . Unlike all the other coaches that have followed DW could sell Pitt .
All one can ever do is play the schedule you have and there's no reason to apologize for W`s. The only people you have to please are your paying fans . If Pitt had played a stiff and won by 40 instead of getting exposed by PSU the conversation would be much different this week .
Pitt was only nationally competitive in both Fb and Bb when they had the assistance of the Golden Panthers . JD was able for awhile to compete , but his recruiting fell off because he couldn't sell Pitt to the level of players he needed . In JC Pitt now has a coach who can sell the university much like DW could . Unfortunately all PN can do is to sell it to 3* and when a team of 3* play a team like PSU you see what happens .

 

[PittPoker]

I would rather have Wanny than Narduzzi. At least Wanny could recruit.

 

[pittbb80]

I would rather have Wanny than Narduzzi. At least Wanny could recruit.

I think wanny should have been given a bit more time but the legend of his recruiting prowess is just that legend.........especially at the single most important position on the field.....QB.......everyone talks about how great his last class was but the headliner was Gary Nova.......let that sink in........that class was not that good overall

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Agree and its something WVU has always done well also. they know they don't have the ability to recruit top 20 classes so they have always run quirky type of offenses and defense(they have been running the 3-3-5 for what seems like forever)

I don't think any schools in the ACC run the Air Raid. Just saying, Mike Leach has done pretty well at some backwater programs...

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

The even more extreme would be Run N Shoot. Hawaii is off to a 3-0 start with a 2 Star QB under Rolovich; and June Jones had an 12-1 year with a Sugar Bowl appearance by being the team that was most different.