Do you seriously think that if tickets were $5 that we would have sold some large quantity of extra tickets? Because we wouldn't have. SMF and some others have it right. Attendance wouldn't have been materially affected if they were giving away the tickets for free.
Pitt/Stub Hub
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SMF & Souf hit it---no one cares about Pitt football--it is what it is because of past performance and also the inexplicable attitude of Pittsburgh natives toward Pitt--always was and always will be--PN has his work cut out for him to elevate the program---only time will tell
Not sure where your tickets are located, but mine are in the Club, which is obviously the most expensive section of the stadium. Club seats for Youngstown had a face value of $25. So if you do the math of just the ticket price, your max profit would be $50. Take out the StubHub commission they deduct from the seller [which equal 10% of the sale price, so in your instance, $10, your "profit over face value" was a mere $40. Factor in that you had to contribute $500 per season ticket just for the right to buy those tickets, which for two would require a contribution of $1,000. Divide the contribution cost evenly over the home season schedule, that means you paid $166 for the right to buy the Youngstown tickets you proudly sold for "$100" and your mythical profit of $40 means you actually lost $126 on the Youngstown transaction.
PS The cost for a season ticket in the Club in 2015 was $340. Hail to Pitt!
PSU is selling some every other row to spread people out.
Has Pitt tried something like that?
Has Pitt tried something like that?
Ok guys. I was some what wrong but some what correct as I have no issue admitting when I'm wrong. At 12:30 pm yesterday, there was 1000 on stub hub and 500 on tix exchange. I said they would all be gone. My guess is that number was reduced down to between a 1000 to 1500 by 1:00 pm however I didn't check because I was walking into the stadium. The online demand for the jet game was actually down this week due to a storm forecast all week which actually changed for the better at 2:00 pm on Sat. I'm not making excuses because rain will affect attendance for any team including the Steelers. Regardless, met life holds 82,500 so they were at around 98 capacity which is ok for an opener but not the norm
As discussed, my suggestion all along is for Pitt to throw the rows of access seats on Stub Hub and they will move regardless of the price. The Jets moved roughly 11,000 to 12,000 seats in a few days. If Pitt moved half, there is 5000 more people in the building. Remember the Jet attendance has no baring on them signing free agents because they just signed the best corner to ever play the sport in Revis however on the contrast it most definitely affects Pitt as we need to better game day environment to attract eight to ten four/five star players per class to compete for championships. Revis was a three star and Connor was two and we'll get guys who over produce as do all schools however there is a reason why the top schools are the top schools year after year and it's because of recruiting the elite players
Hopefully the Pitt ticket dept takes the suggestion and we have a better crowd for the UVa game. Looking forward to Iowa this weekend. H2p.
As discussed, my suggestion all along is for Pitt to throw the rows of access seats on Stub Hub and they will move regardless of the price. The Jets moved roughly 11,000 to 12,000 seats in a few days. If Pitt moved half, there is 5000 more people in the building. Remember the Jet attendance has no baring on them signing free agents because they just signed the best corner to ever play the sport in Revis however on the contrast it most definitely affects Pitt as we need to better game day environment to attract eight to ten four/five star players per class to compete for championships. Revis was a three star and Connor was two and we'll get guys who over produce as do all schools however there is a reason why the top schools are the top schools year after year and it's because of recruiting the elite players
Hopefully the Pitt ticket dept takes the suggestion and we have a better crowd for the UVa game. Looking forward to Iowa this weekend. H2p.
It will have zero impact. The only person it may add would be the random person looking for "entertainment" on stub hub and came across the cheap tickets. There are not people who want to go to a Pitt game that say I wish there were cheap tickets. This is a demand side issue, not a supply side issue.
I have been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and sell or give away the tickets for most of the games. There is NO demand. Winning will change that as we have had good crowds during the Larry years and the last few of Dave W. Hail to Pitt!
Dave
I have been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and sell or give away the tickets for most of the games. There is NO demand. Winning will change that as we have had good crowds during the Larry years and the last few of Dave W. Hail to Pitt!
Dave
Why would anyone compare the Jets an NFL team who plays in the largest, richest, population in the world to Pitt? Not only haven't the Jets not sold out any games in the last five years, hundreds of tickets were available for the game for 5 bucks for the jets home opener. This comparison is absurd.
Dave,
Chewystinks is a close friend of mine named Steel Neil. He still thinks SP and Nordy were great for Pitt football and is in complete denial so his comments lack validity
Win and they'll come? Pitt hasn't competed for championships however they are consistently 7-5 or 8-4. Go to bowl games. Not as bad as the 4-12 jets who have never won anything and average 95 capacity or better a game. They used to have an eleven year season tix waiting list and lost it due to the PSL's
How are you so sure Stub Hub won't work? In business, you won't know until you try. What do we have to lose by trying something different? If it fails then so be it.
Chewystinks is a close friend of mine named Steel Neil. He still thinks SP and Nordy were great for Pitt football and is in complete denial so his comments lack validity
Win and they'll come? Pitt hasn't competed for championships however they are consistently 7-5 or 8-4. Go to bowl games. Not as bad as the 4-12 jets who have never won anything and average 95 capacity or better a game. They used to have an eleven year season tix waiting list and lost it due to the PSL's
How are you so sure Stub Hub won't work? In business, you won't know until you try. What do we have to lose by trying something different? If it fails then so be it.
I know this isn't the place to post information about tickets and I also know that what I am requesting is hard to get, but giving it a shot. Does anyone have 2-4 club seats available for Notre Dame game? Been trying to get my hands on them for awhile without paying an outrageous amount. If so please email me at jeff_kelly3313@icloud.com
Al, I respect your passion and desire to try anything. If you look at stubhub right now, there is an endless supply of tickets available for the UVA game. Starting under $10. Adding more will not get people to want to spend their Saturday at Heinz Field.
Pitt has had success with good crowds in the early 80's and again for parts of the Walt and Dave tenures. If we start winning 8-9 games a year consistently, we will enjoy larger crowds again. Adding better opponents to the schedule will help.
The Florida State game two years ago had a great atmosphere, ND games always do and the Cincy game in 09 sold out. The Pitt/WVU game one year was the highest football game attended at Heinz(better than all the Steeler) games.
Hail to Pitt!
Dave
Pitt has had success with good crowds in the early 80's and again for parts of the Walt and Dave tenures. If we start winning 8-9 games a year consistently, we will enjoy larger crowds again. Adding better opponents to the schedule will help.
The Florida State game two years ago had a great atmosphere, ND games always do and the Cincy game in 09 sold out. The Pitt/WVU game one year was the highest football game attended at Heinz(better than all the Steeler) games.
Hail to Pitt!
Dave
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Because stubhub doesn't generate demand.
Why is this basic concept so difficult for you? COST is NOT keeping fans away from Pitt...there have been times when they were essentially free..and attendance wasn't better in any way.
Al, the more you post in this thread the more it is clear that you have no idea how StubHub and other ticket resellers actually operate. First of all, the notion that there were 8,000 tickets available on one site and 5,000 available on another site and that therefore that means that there were 13,000 distinct tickets available is completely wrong. Many people who put their tickets on one site put them on more than one. A very large percentage of the 5,000 available on one site were also part of the 8,000 available on the other site. That you don't know that that is the way these ticket resale sites work in the real world is pretty telling.
But if you want a perfect example of why the rest of your post is ridiculous, we didn't buy our tickets for the Akron game until we walked up to the box office on Saturday afternoon. So just for fun I had been checking StubHub all week for tickets to the game. It is obvious that Akron does the same thing that the Jets apparently do, because there were huge blocks of tickets for sale on StubHub. Whole rows of reserved seats. Blocks of 12 or 16 or even 20 general admission tickets available as well. Well on Saturday morning before we left I happened to check one last time. At that time there were NO reserved seats left on sale and less than 100 general admission tickets. But they clearly weren't some individual selling those seats, because there were still a block of 20 tickets and two blocks of 16 tickets for sale. So under your "logic", since Akron was selling tickets on StubHub and since there were very few tickets left there not long before game time, obviously Akron must have sold all those tickets. Which if you had actually gone to the game you would know is patently absurd.
But if you want a perfect example of why the rest of your post is ridiculous, we didn't buy our tickets for the Akron game until we walked up to the box office on Saturday afternoon. So just for fun I had been checking StubHub all week for tickets to the game. It is obvious that Akron does the same thing that the Jets apparently do, because there were huge blocks of tickets for sale on StubHub. Whole rows of reserved seats. Blocks of 12 or 16 or even 20 general admission tickets available as well. Well on Saturday morning before we left I happened to check one last time. At that time there were NO reserved seats left on sale and less than 100 general admission tickets. But they clearly weren't some individual selling those seats, because there were still a block of 20 tickets and two blocks of 16 tickets for sale. So under your "logic", since Akron was selling tickets on StubHub and since there were very few tickets left there not long before game time, obviously Akron must have sold all those tickets. Which if you had actually gone to the game you would know is patently absurd.
Joe,
I can't speak for Akron and I'm not knowledgeable enough on their stadium, attendance, etc to comment on them. To compare Akron to Pitt is a joke because Akron is a Mickey Mouse program so aren't comparing apples to apples
I can't speak for Akron and I'm not knowledgeable enough on their stadium, attendance, etc to comment on them. To compare Akron to Pitt is a joke because Akron is a Mickey Mouse program so aren't comparing apples to apples
Sorry, I accidentally hit post. My point is that MetLife was full while stub hub and tix exchange have majority of the ticket inventory which was 13,000 seats If they didn't, there would be empty seats everywhere which wasn't the case outside of the expensive seats on the 40 or 50 which are $450 to $800 face. I suppose you are in favor of doing the same thing over and over and be like SP which gets you the same lousy results. Try it. If it fails than I'm glad to admit I'm wrong. If it works, I'll gladly accept your apology. Everyone can give an opinion, however you won't know until you try it. Pitt never has tried and needs to give it a shot
See that's your problem. I'm not comparing Akron to Pitt. I'm comparing your "knowledge" of the way that StubHub and other ticket resellers work with the way that they actually work in the real world. That's where you are completely lacking, not in any comparison of Pitt to Akron. Although it is kind of amusing that you don't think that Pitt, a college that has problems selling tickets and normally doesn't come anywhere close to selling out it's home games, is at all comparable to Akron, a college that has problems selling tickets and normally doesn't come anywhere close to selling out it's home games, but you seem perfectly convinced that Pitt is actually somehow comparable to the Jets, a pro team that generally does not have problems selling tickets and that always sells their games out.
One of those things is certainly an apples and oranges comparison.
I cannot believe you are still making this stupid point.
Pitt can literally dump every unsold ticket on stubhub for 1 penny, and attendance will be in be no better.
Hint.... It's no shows which is the main problem
People like me... Who have two north club seats... And may not make a single game this year. My friends who have the seats next to me... Same story.
We sell what we can on stubhub, give away others, and Donate others to tickets for kids.
Pitt can literally dump every unsold ticket on stubhub for 1 penny, and attendance will be in be no better.
Hint.... It's no shows which is the main problem
People like me... Who have two north club seats... And may not make a single game this year. My friends who have the seats next to me... Same story.
We sell what we can on stubhub, give away others, and Donate others to tickets for kids.
Why would anybody go to Stub Hub for Pitt tickets? Outside of Notre Dame games 90% of the time you can get tickets on game day at the stadium or if you wait until kickoff, someone will be begging to give you free tickets. Actually I like it that way, it's nice to see the fans have an upper hand over the team.
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