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Pitt Tight End Commit Flips to Nebraska

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Obviously won't be the last one. Some thought that he will end up at OT. Nebraska has seven commits from Nebraska. That feels like a significant percentage of the state population... and also way too many. How good could high school football be out there?
 
I looked the guy up on 247 and not trying to sours grapes it but... I think we will live. Guy is ranked pretty low. Although if we scouted a guy in Nebraska of all places maybe our coaches were high on him to spend resources there.
 
I looked the guy up on 247 and not trying to sours grapes it but... I think we will live. Guy is ranked pretty low. Although if we scouted a guy in Nebraska of all places maybe our coaches were high on him to spend resources there.
We don’t have another TE recruit, and recently have by living by the transfer portal for any sort of depth at the position. My gut tells me there is no plan B by the master recruiter Tim Salem, who’s been stealing a paycheck from this University for 9 years. This staff also celebrated when this kid affirmed his commitment in the fall.
 
We don’t have another TE recruit, and recently have by living by the transfer portal for any sort of depth at the position. My gut tells me there is no plan B by the master recruiter Tim Salem, who’s been stealing a paycheck from this University for 9 years. This staff also celebrated when this kid affirmed his commitment in the fall.
His boss is stealing a bigger paycheck from Pitt
 
Obviously won't be the last one. Some thought that he will end up at OT. Nebraska has seven commits from Nebraska. That feels like a significant percentage of the state population... and also way too many. How good could high school football be out there?
Nebraska routinely has 10-15 D1 players. About half normally get NU offers. Top-ranked player was the #1 TE on Georgia's board (NU commit). The talent is rich given the less than 2 million population. Football is ingrained in the state culture. Many players at North Dakota State and South Dakota State, who dominate FCS nowadays, come from Nebraska.
 
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I looked the guy up on 247 and not trying to sours grapes it but... I think we will live. Guy is ranked pretty low. Although if we scouted a guy in Nebraska of all places maybe our coaches were high on him to spend resources there.
Such ignorance. Nebraska has had three Heisman Trophy winners play high school ball in the state (with less than 1% of the national population) along with several linemen winning awards. Nile Kinnick, Johnny Rodgers and Eric Crouch if wondering. Dave Rimington (viewed as best center ever) is from the state. This kid is #10 and still a 3-star. NU sees him more as a DE or OL and not likely at TE.
 
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Thanks for the information. PITT should spend more time recruiting in Nebraska because of its rich talent pool. Can you suggest some hot beds of Nebraska HS talent?
 
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Such ignorance. Nebraska has had three Heisman Trophy winners play high school ball in the state (with less than 1% of the national population) along with several linemen winning awards. Nile Kinnick, Johnny Rodgers and Eric Crouch if wondering. Dave Rimington (viewed as best center ever) is from the state. This kid is #10 and still a 3-star. NU sees him more as a DE or OL and not likely at TE.
Genuinely and as polite as I can be, no one cares. You dropped the ball at your 1 chance to be semi relevant this year by beating Colorado, and didn’t. Your coach ran his mouth and then got his a*s kicked by Deion. Go away.
 
The PSN article on his commitment starts that he said if he got ANY P5 offer that he would commit to that school
Nebraska routinely has 10-15 D1 players. About half normally get NU offers. Top-ranked player was the #1 TE on Georgia's board (NU commit). The talent is rich given the less than 2 million population. Football is ingrained in the state culture. Many players at North Dakota State and South Dakota State, who dominate FCS nowadays, come from Nebraska.
It's weird that you came here to gloat over a kid that said “And I was just waiting for that first Power Five offer. So, the first Power Five offer I was gonna commit because the first to believe in me, that’s where I was gonna go.” when he committed to Pitt.

I'm sure SE Idaho State was working him hard too, but you guys won out. Huge pickup. Congrats.
 
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It's great how the Duzz haters get to have their cake and eat it, too, with kids like this. "Recruiting sucks!" Kid with very middle of the road rating with no other P5 offers jumps to his local P5 the minute they offer, "Duzz is losing the class!" :rolleyes:

Come on. He hasn't improved recruiting since the excellent season with KP and Addison. I'd argue things have gotten worse. The OC bolted. Was replaced by two poor QBs, and is now using an offense that is boring to watch and NOBODY is going to want to play in. Plus, players don't seem to grasp what to do often, and it results in play breakdowns. It's ok to hate his choices since then.
 
Obviously won't be the last one. Some thought that he will end up at OT. Nebraska has seven commits from Nebraska. That feels like a significant percentage of the state population... and also way too many. How good could high school football be out there?
We don’t use the position under cignetti , anyway

Listen - a Nebraska kid finally got his Nebraska offer so he took it .
This isn’t surprising .
Just like if our Florida kids get a Florida, FSU, or Miami offer they are also gone .

Aaron Donald isn’t walking through that door.
 
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I looked the guy up on 247 and not trying to sours grapes it but... I think we will live. Guy is ranked pretty low. Although if we scouted a guy in Nebraska of all places maybe our coaches were high on him to spend resources there.

Yeah, I don't think it's a big loss. I'm more shocked there are that many D1 players from Nebraska. I thought the midwest was generally not known for its recruiting. Even the areas around here that kind of resemble parts of the midwest suck at producing recruits. I was beginning to assume farmland and football do not go hand in hand.
 
Come on. He hasn't improved recruiting since the excellent season with KP and Addison. I'd argue things have gotten worse. The OC bolted. Was replaced by two poor QBs, and is now using an offense that is boring to watch and NOBODY is going to want to play in. Plus, players don't seem to grasp what to do often, and it results in play breakdowns. It's ok to hate his choices since then.
That has nothing to do with people wanting to cry about recruiting and then cry about losing a kid who had his only P5 offer from Pitt for all but that last three months of the cycle. They'd be running this kid down as evidence Duzz can't recruit if he signed.
 
Come on. He hasn't improved recruiting since the excellent season with KP and Addison. I'd argue things have gotten worse. The OC bolted. Was replaced by two poor QBs, and is now using an offense that is boring to watch and NOBODY is going to want to play in. Plus, players don't seem to grasp what to do often, and it results in play breakdowns. It's ok to hate his choices since then.
It’s true. I wish it weren’t. But hips don’t lie, and neither do the utter lack of playmakers. He hated Whipple and his pass happy offense and brought in Shawn Watson Part Duh and it is an unabashed failure. The issue has been settled. It’s over, Johnny.

I will give Lyke benefit of the doubt she knew the Cig hire was likely to be a train wreck; she worked at a REAL football school before after all. And therefore she should have fiercely intervened. But the dude had just, finally, won something of note, and she really had to let him dig his own grave.

Too bad.
 
Yeah, I don't think it's a big loss. I'm more shocked there are that many D1 players from Nebraska. I thought the midwest was generally not known for its recruiting. Even the areas around here that kind of resemble parts of the midwest suck at producing recruits. I was beginning to assume farmland and football do not go hand in hand.
There probably aren't if Nebraska is "owning" the P5 recruits from Nebraska. I imagine there are some big bodies that have P5 size like Wisconsin or Iowa tends to produce.
 
There probably aren't if Nebraska is "owning" the P5 recruits from Nebraska. I imagine there are some big bodies that have P5 size like Wisconsin or Iowa tends to produce.

I always wonder why we don't see more "big farm boy" type linemen from Cambria County and whatnot. Even that huge area in Westmoreland County with Hempfield, Penn Trafford, Norwin, Greensburg, etc. produces like next to nothing.

But yeah, looks like Nebraska (the state) goes 10 - 15 deep with P5 recruits most years. If Nebraska (the college) is getting most of them, I would advise them to stop. What they're doing isn't working too well.
 
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Yeah, I don't think it's a big loss. I'm more shocked there are that many D1 players from Nebraska. I thought the midwest was generally not known for its recruiting. Even the areas around here that kind of resemble parts of the midwest suck at producing recruits. I was beginning to assume farmland and football do not go hand in hand.
Farmland and highly skilled football players do not go hand in hand.
 
Farmland and highly skilled football players do not go hand in hand.
Farmers and their families work hard. Very little time for much else. Little better now than decades past, with more mechanization and such but family farms are not for the meek or metrosexuals.

Elite football players are prepping for football around the clock and calendar these days. They are being pegged as early as 7th grade and thrown in the machine, the 7 vs 7 traveling tournaments, the year round weight rooms.
 
Nebraska routinely has 10-15 D1 players. About half normally get NU offers. Top-ranked player was the #1 TE on Georgia's board (NU commit). The talent is rich given the less than 2 million population. Football is ingrained in the state culture. Many players at North Dakota State and South Dakota State, who dominate FCS nowadays, come from Nebraska.

So it’s an FCS quality pipeline. Good to know.
 
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Farmers and their families work hard. Very little time for much else. Little better now than decades past, with more mechanization and such but family farms are not for the meek or metrosexuals.

Elite football players are prepping for football around the clock and calendar these days. They are being pegged as early as 7th grade and thrown in the machine, the 7 vs 7 traveling tournaments, the year round weight rooms.

I feel like most of the kids in those areas aren't actually working on farms, but I do think you're onto something with being part of the machine. Some districts have a system in place, and others don't. That's why we see small/medium places like Clarion, TJ, Jeannette, etc. spit 'em out, while much more massive districts have like one or two D1 recruits a decade. I'm not even including Aliquippa, because they recruit, but obviously they're Exhibit A.
 
I always wonder why we don't see more "big farm boy" type linemen from Cambria County and whatnot. Even that huge area in Westmoreland County with Hempfield, Penn Trafford, Norwin, Greensburg, etc. produces like next to nothing.
I've always wondered the same but I can only think of a couple of kids from the rural wilds of PA who have even come close in recent memory.
 
I always wonder why we don't see more "big farm boy" type linemen from Cambria County and whatnot. Even that huge area in Westmoreland County with Hempfield, Penn Trafford, Norwin, Greensburg, etc. produces like next to nothing.

But yeah, looks like Nebraska (the state) goes 10 - 15 deep with P5 recruits most years. If Nebraska (the college) is getting most of them, I would advise them to stop. What they're doing isn't working too well.

The problem is there is about one legit blue chip recruit a year in the state. One guy whose 4* ranking is closer to a 5* than it is a 3*.

Then you have maybe 2 to 3 four star recruits who got the 4* ranking by a photo finish.

Then the rest are 3*.

It’s difficult to build a good, let alone very good, roster with that kind of talent pool to work with.
 
I've always wondered the same but I can only think of a couple of kids from the rural wilds of PA who have even come close in recent memory.

Yeah, most of the ones I can think of from that area (Cambria County) were more inner city. Stephens-Howling, Exree Loe... not sure where the Battles were from, but I imagine closer to Johnstown if they went to McCort... and that was a while ago anyway.

Then I guess there was Pilato from Hempfield, Malecki from Franklin Regional, that dude last year who went to Wisconsin from Penn Trafford, Shanahan from Norwin (and Thrift and Salopek, but they weren't P5), I think WVU got someone from Ligonier a few years ago, some dude from Latrobe went to East Carolina or something... but I mean they're just so few and far between.
 
I feel like most of the kids in those areas aren't actually working on farms, but I do think you're onto something with being part of the machine. Some districts have a system in place, and others don't. That's why we see small/medium places like Clarion, TJ, Jeannette, etc. spit 'em out, while much more massive districts have like one or two D1 recruits a decade. I'm not even including Aliquippa, because they recruit, but obviously they're Exhibit A.
I was going to reply but you are correct. I live in a district that is textbook rural and agricultural. Neighboring districts can make a similar claim. Just say that farming has changed significantly and you just don't see a lot of kids having that as a distraction any longer.

The biggest issue out here is that these kids really don't know how to play football. Wish I could charge a dollar every time someone told me that kids from Pittsburgh play dirty because of the way they hit. I've even seen hard, legal tackles get flagged.
 
Yeah, most of the ones I can think of from that area (Cambria County) were more inner city. Stephens-Howling, Exree Loe... not sure where the Battles were from, but I imagine closer to Johnstown if they went to McCort... and that was a while ago anyway.

Then I guess there was Pilato from Hempfield, Malecki from Franklin Regional, that dude last year who went to Wisconsin from Penn Trafford, Shanahan from Norwin (and Thrift and Salopek, but they weren't P5), I think WVU got someone from Ligonier a few years ago, some dude from Latrobe went to East Carolina or something... but I mean they're just so few and far between.
I excluded Johnstown and Altoona from my thinking. Kevin Givens (Altoona) was the last "big" guy from out here with P5 talent but he's probably only ever seen a farm up close on a field trip. I did see a 315 pound kid from Dubois get pushed around like he was on roller skates by a 180 pound guard a few weeks ago.

Other thing, I haven't seen too many schools out here with coaches that know anything about coaching linemen. Daughter's friends complain that they push dummies around but nobody really teaches them technique beyond the same basics you teach kids in peewee. Weight rooms are typically not very big and most of the equipment was bought in the 70's. It really is something to see but weirdly, HS football is still a huge draw on Friday nights. Corn fields basking in the glow of the poorly lit fields. Goal lines that look like they were painted by a drunk goat. Goal posts slathered in aluminum paint. You'd think someone would have figured out how to play the game by now.
 
I was going to reply but you are correct. I live in a district that is textbook rural and agricultural. Neighboring districts can make a similar claim. Just say that farming has changed significantly and you just don't see a lot of kids having that as a distraction any longer.

The biggest issue out here is that these kids really don't know how to play football. Wish I could charge a dollar every time someone told me that kids from Pittsburgh play dirty because of the way they hit. I've even seen hard, legal tackles get flagged.

I have some family out in Blair County. I remember watching my cousin play back in the day, and game days seemed like a big deal for the town. I'm sure the brand of football was anything but riveting, but I was too young to know the difference. Now, his son plays for that same district (small one called Williamsburg), and I believe they've had to merge with 2-3 other districts just to field a team. I guess northern football in general truly is waning.
 
I excluded Johnstown and Altoona from my thinking. Kevin Givens (Altoona) was the last "big" guy from out here with P5 talent but he's probably only ever seen a farm up close on a field trip. I did see a 315 pound kid from Dubois get pushed around like he was on roller skates by a 180 pound guard a few weeks ago.

Other thing, I haven't seen too many schools out here with coaches that know anything about coaching linemen. Daughter's friends complain that they push dummies around but nobody really teaches them technique beyond the same basics you teach kids in peewee. Weight rooms are typically not very big and most of the equipment was bought in the 70's. It really is something to see but weirdly, HS football is still a huge draw on Friday nights. Corn fields basking in the glow of the poorly lit fields. Goal lines that look like they were painted by a drunk goat. Goal posts slathered in aluminum paint. You'd think someone would have figured out how to play the game by now.

Yeah, Johnstown probably shouldn't count, as it's more like what Jeanneatte is to its surrounding areas in Westmoreland County - just a completely different demographic and vibe.

I was thinking of Givens and, from way back in the day, Steve Tanneyhill, haha. Doesn't State College have some decent high school talent? My friend had some cousins play there who made the NFL, but I thought I've seen some other from there go D1 over the years, also.
 
I have some family out in Blair County. I remember watching my cousin play back in the day, and game days seemed like a big deal for the town. I'm sure the brand of football was anything but riveting, but I was too young to know the difference. Now, his son plays for that same district (small one called Williamsburg), and I believe they've had to merge with 2-3 other districts just to field a team. I guess northern football in general truly is waning.
I'm very close to Williamsburg. Know some guys that played down there. They were right down there with Turkeyfoot for having one of the smallest enrollments in the state that still had football. Sadly, they had to merge football with Juniata Valley to field a team. Still the same conference as our school and they've had some very good basketball teams. Last time I was down there, got out of the car and the field next to the stadium had just been drenched in liquefied cow manure. Parked next to the chicken coop that is attached to the school. Surreal.
 
Farmers and their families work hard. Very little time for much else. Little better now than decades past, with more mechanization and such but family farms are not for the meek or metrosexuals.

Elite football players are prepping for football around the clock and calendar these days. They are being pegged as early as 7th grade and thrown in the machine, the 7 vs 7 traveling tournaments, the year round weight rooms.
I was going to reply but you are correct. I live in a district that is textbook rural and agricultural. Neighboring districts can make a similar claim. Just say that farming has changed significantly and you just don't see a lot of kids having that as a distraction any longer.

The biggest issue out here is that these kids really don't know how to play football. Wish I could charge a dollar every time someone told me that kids from Pittsburgh play dirty because of the way they hit. I've even seen hard, legal tackles get flagged.
This is secondhand from someone who teaches in one of those rural districts, but I've heard the kids (even the big ones that have the size for football) just aren't that passionate about football. They'd rather spend their free time riding ATVs or going hunting, etc., than playing on the football team or spending everyday in the weight room in the offseason.

Perhaps if those districts had better youth programs, they could learn how to play football correctly, and have more successful high school teams which would help build more interest. But you probably also have the issue of shrinking populations in those areas, too, which makes it hard to build up youth programs.
 
Yeah, Johnstown probably shouldn't count, as it's more like what Jeanneatte is to its surrounding areas in Westmoreland County - just a completely different demographic and vibe.

I was thinking of Givens and, from way back in the day, Steve Tanneyhill, haha. Doesn't State College have some decent high school talent? My friend had some cousins play there who made the NFL, but I thought I've seen some other from there go D1 over the years, also.
State College is a pretty big district.
 
Yeah, Johnstown probably shouldn't count, as it's more like what Jeanneatte is to its surrounding areas in Westmoreland County - just a completely different demographic and vibe.

I was thinking of Givens and, from way back in the day, Steve Tanneyhill, haha. Doesn't State College have some decent high school talent? My friend had some cousins play there who made the NFL, but I thought I've seen some other from there go D1 over the years, also.
Tanneyhill was a QB. I think he played a Rhode Island so that doesn't really count as P5. State College doesn't count as rural by anyone's standard. It's more like Monroeville than anything else around it but they've had a few guys that could play.

Don't get me wrong, there are some kids out here who have played D1 in some form or another but I can't think of many that have had the P5 size to go along with it. There was the DeGol kid from Bellwood that walked on and ran on kickoffs. Central Martinsburg has had a couple that walked on somewhere or went to a lower level FCS. White kid from Bedford played at Maine. The Nastasi brothers from Northern Bedford did get scholarships from PSU and WVU. They were both pretty small but did actually play a good bit. I'm told that the Prosser kid from Berlin has D1 offers for basketball.
 
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