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Pitt will bring in an experienced QB

gary2

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Before next season.

There is too much at stake not to.
 
Before next season.

There is too much at stake not to.
I think it's a good idea. Holstein got hurt last year and missed games, and when he did come back after the hit in the Syracuse game, he didn't look 100%. I seem to recall Pickett played at least one or two years where he didn't seem 100%, either, due to taking lots of hits from tucking and running a decent amount, getting sacked due to poor O line play, etc.
 
I'm not sold on Holstein at all, but they're not paying anyone who has legit starter aspirations to come in here. I'm sure they'll get a vet, but it'll be someone who's more interested in another free year of education.

Also, I don't see much being at stake, sadly. We're going to be somewhere from 5-7 to 7-5. And no coaches will be fired because of it.
 
Perhaps a kid from a lower level school who has played some, sees himself as a future coach, and would like to learn Kade Bell’s offense…
 
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In a stunning change from most of recent Pitt FB history (aside from the latter KP years), QB is probably the position of least concern heading into next season.
 
I'm not sold on Holstein at all, but they're not paying anyone who has legit starter aspirations to come in here. I'm sure they'll get a vet, but it'll be someone who's more interested in another free year of education.

Also, I don't see much being at stake, sadly. We're going to be somewhere from 5-7 to 7-5. And no coaches will be fired because of it.

It won't matter one bit what QB we have next year. It won't change the 5-7, 7-5 mediocre team we are.
 
We need another. just not sure how good they’d be knowing they’re 2nd or 3rd string.

Derek Kyler would be my guess. If we're lucky, we might get a P4 cast-off who sees Holstein as less competition than what he current faces or is familiar with his injury propensity.
 
If they bring in an experienced quarterback it's going to be someone like a guy who was at an Ivy League school who won't mind coming here and being a backup for another year before they get on with their life's work.

They are not going to bring in an experienced quarterback who is going to seriously contend for the starting job.
Agree with this: They are not going to bring in an experienced quarterback who is going to seriously contend for the starting job.

We still need someone who has started or played significant time as a backup at our level of competition.
 
Agree with the last few posts. Whoever they bring in will be cheap and won't ever see the field. It's Holstein then Dugger, and if they get past that it doesn't really matter. Might as well play Heintchel.
 
Agree with the last few posts. Whoever they bring in will be cheap and won't ever see the field. It's Holstein then Dugger, and if they get past that it doesn't really matter. Might as well play Heintchel.
Duggger played a half against a MAC team in an exhibition game.

With Holstein injury history, we need to have a better Plan B than Dugger. (And we will)
 
Duggger played a half against a MAC team in an exhibition game.

With Holstein injury history, we need to have a better Plan B than Dugger. (And we will)
We will not have someone coming in who would be a better backup than Dugger. I expect him to be used in sub packages quite a bit each game.
 
Dugger played well in a tough spot. Dugger gives me hope, not confidence.

He played less than one game. No one had any tape on him.

He ran the ball well, but was 7-13 for. 72 yds. 2 TDs 1 int. 3 sacks

And he was not exactly highly recruited.

Hope: Hell yeah. Confifence: Not by a long-shot.
 
Aren’t WRs and possibly RBs more of a need?
I think wide receivers are covered. RB is very similar to QB depth. I would not be against an experienced, bigger back. TE for that matter.

I think you could see adds at all three.

Defense seems set. OL and WR on offense.
 
For sure. But we have 4 QBs. None have played a full season in D1. Need a sidekick rb. Hope Kade is inspired to use his best wisely with his new contract.
We actually have 3 scholarship QBs. That is unheard off. It just is not done.
 
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Dugger played well in a tough spot. Dugger gives me hope, not confidence.

He played less than one game. No one had any tape on him.

He ran the ball well, but was 7-13 for. 72 yds. 2 TDs 1 int. 3 sacks

And he was not exactly highly recruited.

Hope: Hell yeah. Confifence: Not by a long-shot.

Yeah, definitely. We love to declare guys as certain things when we see five minutes of them, but that ain't how it works. DiNucci, Veilleux, Yarnell, etc.

Pickett beat the #2 team in the country as a true freshman, and even then there were quite a bit of growing pains after that.
 
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Duggger played a half against a MAC team in an exhibition game.

With Holstein injury history, we need to have a better Plan B than Dugger. (And we will)

He will have a full spring and full fall. He will be better. We can go 5-7 with him or without him. It doesn't matter
 
Duggger played a half against a MAC team in an exhibition game.

With Holstein injury history, we need to have a better Plan B than Dugger. (And we will)

We aren't paying anyone who is established and better to come here and sit on the bench. That's not happening now, or in the future under the current system.

Hope I'm wrong, but seriously doubt it.
 
We aren't paying anyone who is established and better to come here and sit on the bench. That's not happening now, or in the future under the current system.

Hope I'm wrong, but seriously doubt it.
Exactly right. Dugger played well thrown into the fire with zero experience. This doesn't mean he's gonna be great, but I've seen my share of Pitt QBs who never showed in a career what he showed in a game.

Excellent mobility. We're not getting anything near him. QB is not a huge area of concern. Holstein/Dugger is what I'd roll with, with some old man graduate student
Xfer to play 3rd string. Even if that fails, I don't think there would have been a better option in a transfer.
 
If you're looking for confidence in the most valued position in cfb, in todays environment, from a program like Pitt, I don't know what to tell you. Your backup is Dugger. There's very little at stake and there are even less options.
 
If you're looking for confidence in the most valued position in cfb, in todays environment, from a program like Pitt, I don't know what to tell you. Your backup is Dugger. There's very little at stake and there are even less options.
QB is the most important position.

You pay for insurance. We will pay for insurance.

Feel free to jump all over me if I am wrong.

Pitt is not an unattractive landing spot. Only 3 scholarship players. Only 1 with significant playing time. That one has had 2 (admitted or not) concussions.

Worth the gamble to many candidates.
 
I wouldn’t turn down a veteran QB, but I really like Duggar’s upside. I’d rather see what Duggar can do if Holstein were to get injured. Let the vet spell Duggar if he struggled.

It seems like RichRod’s offense is perfect for Duggar.
 
What exactly is at stake next season?

I don't see how we lose less than 3 games, and we have 4 - 5 wins that are in the bank unless the team is a complete dumpster fire.

I will go into the season hoping for a great year as always, but expecting 8-4 to 6-6 realistically.

If we had championship caliber players at nearly every other position and wanted an insurance policy for an injury-prone QB1, your statement would make sense to me, but I don't get it with the roster we seem to have.
 
What exactly is at stake next season?

I don't see how we lose less than 3 games, and we have 4 - 5 wins that are in the bank unless the team is a complete dumpster fire.

I will go into the season hoping for a great year as always, but expecting 8-4 to 6-6 realistically.

If we had championship caliber players at nearly every other position and wanted an insurance policy for an injury-prone QB1, your statement would make sense to me, but I don't get it with the roster we seem to have.

Nothing. Even if we go 3-9 again Narduzzi will get another year to redeem himself, due to the financial situation we're in. We're a 7-6ish program that is pretty much going nowhere at the moment. Not being a downer; that's just reality. I expect another unsatisfying bowl game in Annapolis or some equivalent.
 
What exactly is at stake next season?

I don't see how we lose less than 3 games, and we have 4 - 5 wins that are in the bank unless the team is a complete dumpster fire.

I will go into the season hoping for a great year as always, but expecting 8-4 to 6-6 realistically.

If we had championship caliber players at nearly every other position and wanted an insurance policy for an injury-prone QB1, your statement would make sense to me, but I don't get it with the roster we seem to have.
I don't sneeze at 8-4. Pitt will pay to support that.
 
Seems a lot of people are all or nothing.

Nothing matters other than all?

When did that get started?
 
Seems a lot of people are all or nothing.

Nothing matters other than all?

When did that get started?

@ West Virginia
Louisville
@ Florida State
@ Syracuse (games in that dome aren't easy)
NC State
@ Stanford (west coast might not be easy)
Notre Dame
@ Georgia Tech (they're improving and have Haynes King)
Miami

So if I spot you Duquesne, CMU, and Boston College (and spotting them might be a little generous), can you find me five more wins?

I think you're right that 8-4 is nothing to sneeze at; I just don't see it happening. I mean it's possible, but...
 
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I'd be happy with 8-4. The issue is that there won't be any QB's available to Pitt that are so much better than Dugger. There are actually 40-50 other programs that are better than Pitt with better resources, that would take an insurance QB.
 
Seems a lot of people are all or nothing.

Nothing matters other than all?

When did that get started?
It's not all or nothing. I'd much rather see an 8-4 season than a 4-8 one or worse, and I'll watch every game hoping they win.

I'm legitimately asking you what exactly you mean by "there's too much at stake". It's probably not Narduzzi's job or a likely playoff run, so what are you referring to?
 
It's not all or nothing. I'd much rather see an 8-4 season than a 4-8 one or worse, and I'll watch every game hoping they win.

I'm legitimately asking you what exactly you mean by "there's too much at stake". It's probably not Narduzzi's job or a likely playoff run, so what are you referring to?
The difference between 8-4 and 4-8. Think the Jurkovec year.

From the sound of this in this thread, most think the Jurkovec year "unimportant"?

I thought it calamity, a major setback to the program.

8-4 versus 4-8? That is a lot at stake, at least for me.
 
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