It's like opening your favorite book and find it's been converted to Greek. It was so nice and easy to to go on thread view and find the exact thread you are interested in and reply you want to read without wading thru a jungle of topics that move every time someone posts on it. Message boards are supposed to be a sort of conversation which is impossible on topic view because every post lines up in the order they were posted, regardless of who was replying to who. In short this new board SUCKS. Chris, we need to have the option of using thread view.
Yes, it would've been nice if they made the upgrades in functionality, while still keeping the thread view option.It's like opening your favorite book and find it's been converted to Greek. It was so nice and easy to to go on thread view and find the exact thread you are interested in and reply you want to read without wading thru a jungle of topics that move every time someone posts on it. Message boards are supposed to be a sort of conversation which is impossible on topic view because every post lines up in the order they were posted, regardless of who was replying to who. In short this new board SUCKS. Chris, we need to have the option of using thread view.
A few thoughts:It's like opening your favorite book and find it's been converted to Greek. It was so nice and easy to to go on thread view and find the exact thread you are interested in and reply you want to read without wading thru a jungle of topics that move every time someone posts on it. Message boards are supposed to be a sort of conversation which is impossible on topic view because every post lines up in the order they were posted, regardless of who was replying to who. In short this new board SUCKS. Chris, we need to have the option of using thread view.
Same with me. I miss the choice.I don't like not being able to see certain people's avatars that allowed me to skip certain posters and allowed me to make to sure to read certain posters. Strange indeed...
Reading the board without thread view makes it incomprehensible. I'm not likely to post much unless the thread view is restored...just too complicated to figure out and requires that you wade through every topic.Just trying to learn, forgive me if lost?
Reading the board without thread view makes it incomprehensible. I'm not likely to post much unless the thread view is restored...just too complicated to figure out and requires that you wade through every topic.
I just don't see the logic that this is more complicated to follow. The post you are replying to is automatically quoted in your reply, so it's actually easier. In fact, this makes it easier to understand PITTLAW's replies; instead of a vague "Reply" topic on each post and no indication of which post he's actually replying to, you can tell because the post in question is quoted in the reply. It's less complicated; not more.It is weird, it is easier to posts and all upgrades are really good, but losing the Thread as you say, makes it hard to follow and I am myself will be leaving soon too. Posted way too much away and the disorganization is just not worth the time anymore. In reality, it is a forced Topic View not a Thread View.
Sometimes, IP Techs just make it too complicated even when attempting to make it easier and like anything else, they think their modernizations are improvements when they made themselves obsolete!
May put up a Website in the future with a group of Sports Lawyers & Academics and we will make it real simple to post and follow the posts! Rivals really looks like it cares about the Mobile Devices more and are geared up for that Technology and the Thread View hurts that small device viewing.
Well, it has been nice and all good things come to an end sooner or later!
I understand what you're saying when directly involved in the discussion, but where thread view is preferred by some (including myself) is the visual it presents when you're not necessarily posting. MUCH easier to scan and see who is/has been participating. I'll admit there are certain posters whose opinions/comments I prefer above others and vice versa. Now I'm forced to read everyone's posts. That takes a whole lot more time and although I agree this format is somewhat cleaner, thread view used in the way I described was also very "clean" and easy.I just don't see the logic that this is more complicated to follow. The post you are replying to is automatically quoted in your reply, so it's actually easier. In fact, this makes it easier to understand PITTLAW's replies; instead of a vague "Reply" topic on each post and no indication of which post he's actually replying to, you can tell because the post in question is quoted in the reply. It's less complicated; not more.
The other thing I would mention is that Rivals isn't exactly breaking into new territory here; if anything, the board upgrades bring Rivals closer to what the rest of the internet has been doing for quite some time. Yes, there was an effort made to improve the mobile product because that's the way the world is going: more and more people are spending more and more time online with their mobile devices than they are with their computers.
I can understand that; I don't tend to take that approach - cherry-picking posters - so that's not an issue for me. But I can see how others would prefer that.I understand what you're saying when directly involved in the discussion, but where thread view is preferred by some (including myself) is the visual it presents when you're not necessarily posting. MUCH easier to scan and see who is/has been participating. I'll admit there are certain posters whose opinions/comments I prefer above others and vice versa. Now I'm forced to read everyone's posts. That takes a whole lot more time and although I agree this format is somewhat cleaner, thread view used in the way I described was also very "clean" and easy.
It's funny you say that, because it looks to me like there have been more posts. I think that's the case on the premium board, at least.Well... I think the less posting speaks for itself. I think it is easier when using a phone, but looks boring and uninteresting on the laptop. Ive certainly posted a whole lot less.
With thread view there are many times a poster replies to the OP then a long discussion will go on with that poster while the original discussion goes on with the OP. That was easy to follow on thread because the whole topic was laid out right there for you to see. If I replied to someone today it was easy to log on tomorrow or whenever and easily follow any discussion that sprang from my reply. Not now.It's funny you say that, because it looks to me like there have been more posts. I think that's the case on the premium board, at least.
I should have clarified that I have embraced the new format and hope to contribute as much as before even if it isn't exactly how I liked it. This is a great board.I can understand that; I don't tend to take that approach - cherry-picking posters - so that's not an issue for me. But I can see how others would prefer that.
I think these things are big improvements, though:
- Going to the board and immediately seeing which threads have posts you haven't read yet.
- Clicking on a thread and being taken immediately to the first post you haven't read yet.
- Automatically quoting replies, which improves the flow of discussion and makes the discussion easier to follow, in my opinion.
Those three things really stand out to me as major improvements over the old format, regardless of the Thread vs. Topic debate. I know there are Thread View diehards; I've talked with other Rivals publishers, and every site has people who really love Thread View. I even had it as my default, so I'm not a staunch Topic View supporter. But overall, I think the improvements outweigh the loss of Thread View. For me, at least.
I don't have to talk it up; I really don't. There are things Rivals has done in the past that I have disagreed with, and I wasn't dishonest in expressing my thoughts in those situations. And like I said, I had Thread View as my default, so I used it as well.Who cares about aesthetics of a web site intended to facilitate discussion among fans? Yeah, it is easy to reply to a specific person [although only a few morons had trouble doing so in the prior incarnation]...but following a discussion or thread is next to impossible now. I know you have to sell this and talk it up like it is the new sliced bread...but not having a thread view makes it next to impossible. Cherry picking particular posters comments was the only rational way to participate in a discussion here. Now you must wade through every single comment. Maybe it looks cleaner...but who has the time for this now? By the way, the old site had cookies and it was simple to tell what you had read and what you had not....so solving a problem that did not exist is hardly an improvement, at least in my book.
With thread view there are many times a poster replies to the OP then a long discussion will go on with that poster while the original discussion goes on with the OP. That was easy to follow on thread because the whole topic was laid out right there for you to see. If I replied to someone today it was easy to log on tomorrow or whenever and easily follow any discussion that sprang from my reply. Not now.
I understand what you're saying when directly involved in the discussion, but where thread view is preferred by some (including myself) is the visual it presents when you're not necessarily posting. MUCH easier to scan and see who is/has been participating. I'll admit there are certain posters whose opinions/comments I prefer above others and vice versa. Now I'm forced to read everyone's posts. That takes a whole lot more time and although I agree this format is somewhat cleaner, thread view used in the way I described was also very "clean" and easy.
Not at all...just logical about following a conversation and discussion. The present set up makes it impossible to observe and follow the comprehensive discussion. But hey, you will likely get away with saying a lot of stupid stuff that I would have otherwise called you out on...so consider it a blessingPittlaw is salty because his redundant Reply has been rendered obsolete .
I'm not worried about it, you are a step above gridiron sage when in regards to logical consistency .Not at all...just logical about following a conversation and discussion. The present set up makes it impossible to observe and follow the comprehensive discussion. But hey, you will likely get away with saying a lot of stupid stuff that I would have otherwise called you out on...so consider it a blessing