POLL: Who had the better HIGH SCHOOL career, & not anything else that followed, Palko or Pryor?

[cbpitt2]

POLL: Who had the better high school career, HIGH SCHOOL, and not anything else that followed, Tyler Palko at West Allegheny or Terrelle Pryor at Jeannette?

And as a side note, what other local quarterbacks, if any, had a better HIGH SCHOOL career than Palko or Pryor?

DiNucci

Jurkovec

Failla

Kasperowicz

Rutherford

Others?

 

[Rickey]

Jerkovic, by far

 

[Swervin27]

Jerkovic, by far

Not even close. he missed his jr year due to injury, didn't start his freshman year I don't think. Only thing he has on his side is his basketball career, not sure if that's allowed in this debate.

Palko's high school career was silly. both personally and what his team did. Did someone really bring up Paul Failla?

 

[omega]

It's a tough call. Both were very successful in HS. I can tell you this. Palko did more with his physical ability than most on that list.

 

[HunterHemsley]

Pryor is the best football player in the WPIAL during the last 20 years and it isn't even close. Having Palko in the same sentence as Pryor should have your banned from this site. That Jeanette team of 30 players would've beaten any other WPIAL team simply b/c of TP.

 

[Swervin27]

Pryor is the best football player in the WPIAL during the last 20 years and it isn't even close. Having Palko in the same sentence as Pryor should have your banned from this site. That Jeanette team of 30 players would've beaten any other WPIAL team simply b/c of TP.

Palko started more nfl games at QB than Pryor. The question was, who had a better high school career. That answer is very easily Palko. If you want to change the question to, who runs faster? then yeah, your boy wins.

 

[WiseAndGlorious]

Who could drink more beers on a cross-country flight?

 

[rmf05]

Palko was a bit better IMO. Even then, his conference was pretty darn good. He didn't pad his stats against 4-5 weak opponents per season like Pryor so his stats weren't as gaudy. Pryor's games looked silly. He was so much bigger and stronger than everyone. It was just pure measurables. Palko was far more skilled and a better fb player.

I also saw Kasper who was great but his team was amazing. Maybe the best I've ever seen live. Lavar Arrington was a better player than Pryor and Palko.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

Jurkovec and it's not close what he was asked to execute.

The only thing Pryor has over Phil is foot speed. Yet, Phil is an outstanding runner.

Pryor was a big play machine. Breaston did tthe same thing except on the highest levels.

A very underrated qb was Zimmerman.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Major Harris. Gottfried like many effed up and wanted him at d back. Kid was a stud. Obviously wasn’t the best pocket passer but was a freak playmaker.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

Pryor is the best football player in the WPIAL during the last 20 years and it isn't even close. Having Palko in the same sentence as Pryor should have your banned from this site. That Jeanette team of 30 players would've beaten any other WPIAL team simply b/c of TP.

You should be banned... Pryor was barely better at QB than Breaston. Breaston was certainly smarter.

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

Does career mean all sports? Only one was highly rated in the two major sports.

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

Are we talking wins and losses, championships? No one come close to Kevin Price.

 

[Swervin27]

Are we talking wins and losses, championships? No one come close to Kevin Price.

Who?

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Who?

Duquesne HS. QB of 1993 state champs, and star of back-to-back state basketball champs. Took the basketball route at Duquesne U.

 

[Swervin27]

Duquesne HS. QB of 1993 state champs, and star of back-to-back state basketball champs. Took the basketball route at Duquesne U.

Yeah, he was my age. Hooper at Duquesne university too. . I remember him.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Yeah, he was my age. Hooper at Duquesne university too. . I remember him.

Glory Days...

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Yeah, he was my age. Hooper at Duquesne university too. . I remember him.

Make me feel old. I grew up in Duquesne . . . with Kevin SENIOR!

 

[gbgpanther]

Make me feel old. I grew up in Duquesne . . . with Kevin SENIOR!

Pryor put his numbers up playing 1 quarter of every game his SR year. The freshman quarter back that year had almost the same amount of minutes that Terrell had.

 

[HunterHemsley]

You should be banned... Pryor was barely better at QB than Breaston. Breaston was certainly smarter.

If Pryor went to Pitt instead of O$U would you still feel the same way? Put your tunnel vision away

 

[Lfg2ch4]

Palko started more nfl games at QB than Pryor. The question was, who had a better high school career. That answer is very easily Palko. If you want to change the question to, who runs faster? then yeah, your boy wins.

I saw Pryor run for a 60 yd TD from a QB sneak against Beaver Falls in the WPIAL Championship. Todd Thomas (a 100 meter dash track star) had an angle on him. When Pryor looked over his shoulder and saw Thomas coming he changed immediately to a faster gear and left Thomas in the dust. HS QBs like college QBs are valued for their legs and their arm. Pryor was the last ranked as a high school senior No. 1 by Parade magazine. Last WPIAL guy to do that. No question in my mind who had the better career and who was the superior player.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Yeah, he was my age. Hooper at Duquesne university too. . I remember him.

The thing is, call me biased, but those Single A schools, I mean Tyler Boyd had a pretty impressive career too, right? But those Single A schools, so much easier for having a P5 or NFL type of talent to dominate that level than it would be in the upper classes.

Lavar Arrington I would think would be the guy post 1990.

 

[Swervin27]

The thing is, call me biased, but those Single A schools, I mean Tyler Boyd had a pretty impressive career too, right? But those Single A schools, so much easier for having a P5 or NFL type of talent to dominate that level than it would be in the upper classes.

Lavar Arrington I would think would be the guy post 1990.

I don't know, you put Tyler Boyd or Pryor on a North Allegheny or Mt. Lebo, they are making the opponents look foolish too. Boyd his senior year, the offense was literally snap it to him and he decides which way to run, and more often than not, it works. I watched him a few times in high school, they'd snap it to him, hed look left or right and then just run.

You probably don't get that elementary at higher levels but on flip side, at a Quad A school, you'd have better lines and better coaches..

 

[steelcurtain55.]

I saw Pryor run for a 60 yd TD from a QB sneak against Beaver Falls in the WPIAL Championship. Todd Thomas (a 100 meter dash track star) had an angle on him. When Pryor looked over his shoulder and saw Thomas coming he changed immediately to a faster gear and left Thomas in the dust. HS QBs like college QBs are valued for their legs and their arm. Pryor was the last ranked as a high school senior No. 1 by Parade magazine. Last WPIAL guy to do that. No question in my mind who had the better career and who was the superior player.

Todd Thomas was not a 100 meter star. I don't think he even ran it much.

He ran a 4.7 handheld (4.94) after 4+ years of strength and conditioning.

Pryor outrunning him isn't that impressive.

 

[Lfg2ch4]

Todd Thomas was not a 100 meter star. I don't think he even ran it much.

He ran a 4.7 handheld (4.94) after 4+ years of strength and conditioning.

Pryor outrunning him isn't that impressive.

Todd Thomas and his Beaver Falls teammate Cody Cook were two members of the 4 by 100 meter relay team that won the WPIAL Championship in 2009 in 44.15. How many guys can say they did that?

 

[Mikefln]

Palko was and is the better QB with more polished skills. He also had more intangibles. Pryor was the better athlete and took over games more. The problem is competition. There is no if/and/buts about it that Palko played against much better competition than Pryor did. The person who state LaVar is the right answer imho.

 

[HunterHemsley]

The thing is, call me biased, but those Single A schools, I mean Tyler Boyd had a pretty impressive career too, right? But those Single A schools, so much easier for having a P5 or NFL type of talent to dominate that level than it would be in the upper classes.

Lavar Arrington I would think would be the guy post 1990.

Greatest high schooler I have ever seen. Crazy to remember he dominated high schoolers at the age of 14. Those NH teams were legendary

 

[Teh Teh]

Pryor put his numbers up playing 1 quarter of every game his SR year. The freshman quarter back that year had almost the same amount of minutes that Terrell had.

So the freshman qb only played one quarter too? Who played the other 2 quarters?? Curtis Bray was the best player I've seen.

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

Palko was and is the better QB with more polished skills. He also had more intangibles. Pryor was the better athlete and took over games more. The problem is competition. There is no if/and/buts about it that Palko played against much better competition than Pryor did. The person who state LaVar is the right answer imho.

Triple A easily the worst of them all.

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

I don't know, you put Tyler Boyd or Pryor on a North Allegheny or Mt. Lebo, they are making the opponents look foolish too. Boyd his senior year, the offense was literally snap it to him and he decides which way to run, and more often than not, it works. I watched him a few times in high school, they'd snap it to him, hed look left or right and then just run.

You probably don't get that elementary at higher levels but on flip side, at a Quad A school, you'd have better lines and better coaches..

Easily, who thinks Mark Ponko could do anything with any of those Single A kids?

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

So it seems this conversation is about QB, not athletes. What Quad A WR is/was better than Tyler Boyd? What Quad A running back is/was better than Curtis Martin? What Quad A cornerback is/ was better than Revis and Ty Law?

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

As the great Zo Daddy from Duquesne would say, Quad A is nothing, but dual income! Two parents in a home.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

So it seems this conversation is about QB, not athletes. What Quad A WR is/was better than Tyler Boyd? What Quad A running back is/was better than Curtis Martin? What Quad A cornerback is/ was better than Revis and Ty Law?

You obviously are going by pro success because while Martin was very good in HS, he will never be mentioned amongst the top 10 running backs in PA when just considering their hs careers.

Shady McCoy was night and day better than CMart during that stage. As was Ricky Watters, Blair Thomas, Kevin Jones, D'Andre Swift, etc...

AAA/AAAA - wrs better than Boyd?. I thought Boyd played the "athlete" role more than Wr. I'd be willing to be he spent as much time in the backfield as he did split ride. Robert Foster did more in HS than Boyd did. Just look at the offers he had.

The same with Revis... I don't remember him being a shut down cb in hs. Ted Ginn rolled that secondary up in the big 33.


Name me one good passing attack aliquippa saw when revis was there.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

As the great Zo Daddy from Duquesne would say, Quad A is nothing, but dual income! Two parents in a home.

Bro, I've seen Duquesne get rolled by a slow Southern Columbia team. What do you think would be the outcome vs. Pine richland, Woody high, NA, St. Joe's, Pcc, etc....

 

[88Pitt88]

Pryor was the best athlete this area has produced over the last 40-50 years. I saw him in 10th grade play a game at Valley High School and he was so big and so quick as a 10th grader. On that day, he was playing DE and beat his man, stepped inside and took a handoff from Valley's QB, before the running back could get to it, and returned it 50 some yards for a TD. I have never seen anything like that before or since then. To suggest that he would not have been dominant against Quad A competition is just wrong. He had an extra gear he could go to whenever needed.

He was just as dominant in high school basketball. I saw him in a wpial title game, he was at the three point arc. He took two dribbles and got to the rim and dunked over John Baldwin and Herb Pope. He could have played in the NBA had he chosen that route.

I am not arguing that he is in fact the best QB, however, he is by far the best athlete mentioned in this thread and it really isn't even close.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

Pryor was the best athlete this area has produced over the last 40-50 years. I saw him in 10th grade play a game at Valley High School and he was so big and so quick as a 10th grader. On that day, he was playing DE and beat his man, stepped inside and took a handoff from Valley's QB, before the running back could get to it, and returned it 50 some yards for a TD. I have never seen anything like that before or since then. To suggest that he would not have been dominant against Quad A competition is just wrong. He had an extra gear he could go to whenever needed.

He was just as dominant in high school basketball. I saw him in a wpial title game, he was at the three point arc. He took two dribbles and got to the rim and dunked over John Baldwin and Herb Pope. He could have played in the NBA had he chosen that route.

I am not arguing that he is in fact the best QB, however, he is by far the best athlete mentioned in this thread and it really isn't even close.

You don't think Lavar wasn't close to Pryor as an athlete?

If you think he would've been just as dominant playing the very best of aaaa with his Jeanette team, I'd love to sell you some ice in Antarctica.

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

You obviously are going by pro success because while Martin was very good in HS, he will never be mentioned amongst the top 10 running backs in PA when just considering their hs careers.

Shady McCoy was night and day better than CMart during that stage. As was Ricky Watters, Blair Thomas, Kevin Jones, D'Andre Swift, etc...

AAA/AAAA - wrs better than Boyd?. I thought Boyd played the "athlete" role more than Wr. I'd be willing to be he spent as much time in the backfield as he did split ride. Robert Foster did more in HS than Boyd did. Just look at the offers he had.

The same with Revis... I don't remember him being a shut down cb in hs. Ted Ginn rolled that secondary up in the big 33.


Name me one good passing attack aliquippa saw when revis was there.[/QUOTE



Definitely going with pro success because that is the high point, what you do against Fort Cherry, Bishop Canevin and the other seven bullshit opponents means very little. Curt only played one year of high school football.

Offers really mean little since as soon as one school offers, the other do the same. Triple A ball is the worst, the only way to figure out who is/was better is the end, that’s the NFL.

When mentioning Revis, Ginn is not even a topic. What is also wierd here is you only named one WPIAL rebuttal, so I stand by my statement. Revis and Law could handle any WR past, present or future in the WPIAL. Boyd would do what he did against Quad A, along with Curt.

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

Definitely going with pro success because that is the high point, what you do against Fort Cherry, Bishop Canevin and the other seven bullshit opponents means very little. Curt only played one year of high school football.

Offers really mean little since as soon as one school offers, the other do the same. Triple A ball is the worst, the only way to figure out who is/was better is the end, that’s the NFL.

When mentioning Revis, Ginn is not even a topic. What is also wierd here is you only named one WPIAL rebuttal, so I stand by my statement. Revis and Law could handle any WR past, present or future in the WPIAL. Boyd would do what he did against Quad A, along with Curt.

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

Bro, I've seen Duquesne get rolled by a slow Southern Columbia team. What do you think would be the outcome vs. Pine richland, Woody high, NA, St. Joe's, Pcc, etc....

Are we playing eleven on eleven or eleven vs twenty plus?

 

[TheOldDirtyPanther]

You don't think Lavar wasn't close to Pryor as an athlete?

If you think he would've been just as dominant playing the very best of aaaa with his Jeanette team, I'd love to sell you some ice in Antarctica.

Athlete, I think we have had this conversation before. Is Dick Groat a better or comparable athlete than Deion Sanders or Bo Jackson?