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Yeah definitely not taking this level of success for granted given what us old timers have lived through. Hopefully we’ve established a new baseline.

Interesting to see Clemson on that list. Wouldn’t have expected it given their struggles last year.
 
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Only Georgia, Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson have won more games than Pitt in the past two years. H2P!!!
But it means next to nothink for the poll voters, college football isn't based on winning games, it's based on name recognition
 
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But it means next to nothink for the poll voters, college football isn't based on winning games, it's based on name recognition
Pitt lost 4 games this year and did not beat a top 25 team until the last game of the year...where should they have been ranked? A team "named" Georgia put 65 in the national championship game...
 
Yeah definitely not taking this level of success for granted given what us old timers have lived through. Hopefully we’ve established a new baseline.

Interesting to see Clemson on that list. Wouldn’t have expected it given their struggles last year.
Well, “struggles” are relative. Clemson was 10-3 in 2021 and 11-3 in 2022. Loads of programs would love to have those kind of struggles.

But in the context of competing for the CFP and NC’s that Clemson fans have grown to expect and even demand, those are down years.

The QB play the past couple of years since Lawrence left has not seen the performance and production they were used to. Have to see if Klubnick is the answer starting next season? 🤷‍♂️
 
Pitt lost 4 games this year and did not beat a top 25 team until the last game of the year...where should they have been ranked? A team "named" Georgia put 65 in the national championship game...
How about ahead of ND that also lost 4 games, or ahead of UCLA who they beat, I'm sure NDs name gave them a better ranking, and the voter that don't pay attention probably assume Pitt was 6-6 again.
 
How about ahead of ND that also lost 4 games, or ahead of UCLA who they beat, I'm sure NDs name gave them a better ranking, and the voter that don't pay attention probably assume Pitt was 6-6 again.
"Whataboutism" is not an answer to my question........How about ahead of ND that also lost 4 games.......Why? Notre Dame played a significantly tougher schedule not to mention beating a common opponent (UNC) that Pitt lost to......try again.

you, who says college football is crap and only watch Pitt know better how to rank teams....hahahahahahaha
 
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"Whataboutism" is not an answer to my question........How about ahead of ND that also lost 4 games.......Why? Notre Dame played a significantly tougher schedule not to mention beating a common opponent (UNC) that Pitt lost to......try again.

you, who says college football is crap and only watch Pitt know better how to rank teams....hahahahahahaha
I have to agree here. It is still about the overall body of work as well. If we wanted to be ranked higher we should have beat Georgia Tech. At 10-3 we may have been right around 15. Got to beat the teams you are supposed to beat.
 
I have to agree here. It is still about the overall body of work as well. If we wanted to be ranked higher we should have beat Georgia Tech. At 10-3 we may have been right around 15. Got to beat the teams you are supposed to beat.
Winning cures everything.

If Pitt was not successful the last two years, do you think the WPIAL kids would’ve transferred back home? No….

Pitt already has commitments from a couple of 4 Star players in the 2024 class and more are strongly considering as well.

When you win, all questions are answered. It starts with beating teams you’re supposed to beat….
 
"Whataboutism" is not an answer to my question........How about ahead of ND that also lost 4 games.......Why? Notre Dame played a significantly tougher schedule not to mention beating a common opponent (UNC) that Pitt lost to......try again.

you, who says college football is crap and only watch Pitt know better how to rank teams....hahahahahahaha
As good as the people who actually do it, it's been totally common to rank ND top 10 at the start, then they finish 5-7, Oklahoma went 6-7 what where they ranked at the start, Texas A&M? Just vote based on names like the real voters do.
 
Pitt lost 4 games this year and did not beat a top 25 team until the last game of the year...where should they have been ranked? A team "named" Georgia put 65 in the national championship game...
You’re not following the template. As a Pitt fan you have to say the pollsters are against us, all ACC referees are against us, all national and local media are against us, the people that rank recruiting classes are against us. 🤣🤣
 
As good as the people who actually do it, it's been totally common to rank ND top 10 at the start, then they finish 5-7, Oklahoma went 6-7 what where they ranked at the start, Texas A&M? Just vote based on names like the real voters do.
That's happened with Notre Dame exactly once in the last 40 years where they were pre-season top 10 then finished under .500. Is that your definition of "common"?

Meanwhile they've finished with 3 losses or fewer 11 out of the 16 times they were ranked in the top 10 pre-season during that period. They do that while consistently playing one of the toughest schedules almost every year.
 
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That's happened with Notre Dame exactly once in the last 40 years where they were pre-season top 10 then finished under .500. Is that your definition of "common"?

Meanwhile they've finished with 3 losses or fewer 11 out of the 16 times they were ranked in the top 10 pre-season during that period. They do that while consistently playing one of the toughest schedules almost every year.
Thanks for the research, maybe they're top 10 ad go 8-4 or 7-5 go look it up. They're still over ranked because of their name
 
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As good as the people who actually do it, it's been totally common to rank ND top 10 at the start, then they finish 5-7, Oklahoma went 6-7 what where they ranked at the start, Texas A&M? Just vote based on names like the real voters do.
The discussion was about end of the season rankings...you lost the debate and now you moved the Acrisure goal posts out into the Ohio River...
 
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Thanks for the research, maybe they're top 10 ad go 8-4 or 7-5 go look it up. They're still over ranked because of their name
I already looked it up and gave the results. I said they were ranked in the top 10 16 times over the last 40 years. They finished under .500 once and 3 losses or fewer 11 times. So they finished with 4-5 losses 4 times out of 16 in the last 40 years.

I'm not saying they don't get over rated most years, I'd imagine most of the top 10 pre-season teams finish worse than their start. But you gave an exact scenario that is exceedingly rare. I'd say that the 11/16 3-loss record is actually pretty accurate considering they probably play 6-8 P5 teams that finish with winning records most seasons.
 
Pitt lost 4 games this year and did not beat a top 25 team until the last game of the year...where should they have been ranked? A team "named" Georgia put 65 in the national championship game...
Thanks, troll. PSU did not beat a top 25 until the last game of the year and finished in the top 10.

Get a life. You, Badly, Cash should all really try to find better hobbies than trolling free Pitt boards. It's incredibly sad.
 
Yeah definitely not taking this level of success for granted given what us old timers have lived through. Hopefully we’ve established a new baseline.

Interesting to see Clemson on that list. Wouldn’t have expected it given their struggles last year.
We would have LOVED those struggles 5-6 years ago. The QB play rules, and they've had them. I'm hoping for some stability there.
 
Pitt lost 4 games this year and did not beat a top 25 team until the last game of the year...where should they have been ranked? A team "named" Georgia put 65 in the national championship game...
Oh boy another self loathing Pitt "Fan". Honestly just swallow the barrel and get it over with........
 
The discussion was about end of the season rankings...you lost the debate and now you moved the Acrisure goal posts out into the Ohio River...
No the discussion was about Pitt being among the college football teams who won the most games the past 2 years. I guess you have reading comprehension issues
 
Winning cures everything.

If Pitt was not successful the last two years, do you think the WPIAL kids would’ve transferred back home? No….

Pitt already has commitments from a couple of 4 Star players in the 2024 class and more are strongly considering as well.

When you win, all questions are answered. It starts with beating teams you’re supposed to beat….
I’m not saying we weren’t successful. I’m just saying you can’t lose to the Georgia Techs of the world. As far as WPIAL players transferring back is I because we are winning or they weren’t playing or couldn’t cut it at their other schools. Not like we are getting starters from Florida or LSU. Plus all I’ve heard on this board for years is how terrible Jurkovec is and now we all are supposed to love him
 
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I would be totally happy with 9 or 10 win seasons. Our chances at CFP final is pretty low so why not knock out double digit winning seasons?
 
I’m not saying we weren’t successful. I’m just saying you can’t lose to the Georgia Techs of the world. As far as WPIAL players transferring back is I because we are winning or they weren’t playing or couldn’t cut it at their other schools. Not like we are getting starters from Florida or LSU. Plus all I’ve heard on this board for years is how terrible Jurkovec is and now we all are supposed to love him
Some of that is actually true. But this is a new time, a different sport. Fans have to be flexible. This kind of thing is only going to increase. Short memories and thick skins will be helpful for coaches and fans alike.

As for Jurk, I’d agree with the skeptics if he was coming in to play for Shawn Watson, or if a different QB like Slovis was coming in to play for Cig… but it is a fact that Cig and Jurk had a good experience working with other. We have to hope they can duplicate or exceed it.
 
The bottom line is Pitt has had a very successful two years and have many accomplishments for it. It was on twitter 20 wins, Acc Champs, Coastal Champs, Sun Bowl Champs, Heisman finalist, Addison won best WR award, numerous players going to the pros. They are competitive in most games. It's pretty darn good right now so enjoy it.
 
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