Pitt will go up in NET, especially because several teams just in front of Pitt lost.
I would think they are a lock as of today as Lunardi already had them at 90 percent chance to make tourney as of this morning. Their road record is solid and this will bump Net into 40s. Clemson is not as bad as a loss with their win today, so worst case one quad three road loss to ND, one quad 4 to FSU, which just took down a team the committee spoke highly of last weekend, and a likely tourney q2 loss (net below 50 at neutral). I would feel comfortable assuring Pitt finishes at least top 2 in ACC rather than drop to 5…I wonder how UNC beating UVA will factor in. UVA is free falling and could approach 30 in the NET which would drop that to a Q2 win for Pitt. However our 2 UNC wins certainly are looking better after the Heels win. Either way, a win over ND has to make Pitt a lock, no?
If we take care of business against ND, it guarantees at least a tie for the ACC regular season title. I can't imagine being left out of the field if that were to occur. It would be a joke and a travesty of epic proportions.I wonder how UNC beating UVA will factor in. UVA is free falling and could approach 30 in the NET which would drop that to a Q2 win for Pitt. However our 2 UNC wins certainly are looking better after the Heels win. Either way, a win over ND has to make Pitt a lock, no?
This. Way too much anguish over this nonsense. Just enjoy what has been a special season in the history of Pitt sportsNo matter what happens this is a great and surprising season. Just go with it....
This way too much anguish over this nonsense. Just enjoy what has been a special season in the history ofNo matter what happens this is a great and surprising season. Just go with it....
Meanwhile.... UNC got nothing out of beating UVa. They were 47 before the game, 47 after.They moved up 2 in the NET rankings to 52 after the win. Meanwhile Clemson moved up to 16 spots from 74 to all the way to 58 now after their blowout win in the road at NC State. I still think these NET Rankings are a complete and total joke.
Also, WVU didn’t move at all. They are going to finish the year barely over .500 and likely 30 spots better than us in the NET and a head to head win. Will be interesting to see the seedsMeanwhile.... UNC got nothing out of beating UVa. They were 47 before the game, 47 after.
Miami fell from 28th to 34th. Virginia fell from 21st to 28th. So those were significant losses.
Other significant drops/gains:
Boise went from 23rd to 29th
Kentucky went from 29th to 20th (!)
TCU went from 26th to 21st
Iowa State went from 17th to 22nd
Duke went from 30th to 25th (!)
Oklahoma State went from 41st to 46th
Texas Tech went from 48th to 54th
Arizona State's halfcourt buzzer beater took them from 67th to 59th.
And they took probably the best team in the country down to the wire. I’m not even sure I can get mad at that. We looked helpless against a garbage VT team on the road and they almost got Kansas.As I note in the daily NET madness thread - WVU is ranked better than every ACC team except for Duke.
As I note in the daily NET madness thread - WVU is ranked better than every ACC team except for Duke.
WVU would be favored against us on a neutral court - right? I mean, VT was a 6.5 pt favorite at home over us a week ago(and we couldn’t cover). I sort of assume WVU would be a slight favorite on a neutral court. I dunno - maybe I’m wrong. Far from a “given” though.That right there tells you how foolish and irrelevant this NET nonsense is. wvu will be lucky to finish above 0.500 this year and we'd beat them today if we played them. That's a given. You think we beat 'Cuse badly?? We'd do more than that against poor wvu.
You think we beat 'Cuse badly?? We'd do more than that against poor wvu.
That’s because the NET is inherently flawed. Once the non-con was finished, the Big 12 was guaranteed to have all their teams ranked high in the NET. The ACC was guaranteed to have no chance of having a team at the top.As I note in the daily NET madness thread - WVU is ranked better than every ACC team except for Duke.
You can't seriously think that Syracuse is better than West Virginia, can you? I mean you can't even seriously think that they are even remotely close, can you?
Did I say that? I didn't think so. This isn't the transitive property. You can't do that in sports. The way we're playing now and improved and the way wvu is playing now, we'd bring more emotion against wvu and as a TEAM, we'd beat them every bit as badly as we beat 'Cuse.
We’d beat WVU by 17? Boy I hope you make a lot of money betting alternate spreads lol.Did I say that? I didn't think so. This isn't the transitive property. You can't do that in sports. The way we're playing now and improved and the way wvu is playing now, we'd bring more emotion against wvu and as a TEAM, we'd beat them every bit as badly as we beat 'Cuse. And 'Cuse, as bad as they are, has more talent than wvu. Huggy is a great coach and he is the difference. You put a more talented 'Cuse team with Boeheim as the coach against a team like wvu and Huggy as the coach, wvu wins that game at least 7 times out of 10. We don't have nearly the talent that 'Cuse has. But they have Boeheim, so we beat them and we have a mature team of guys with character. wvu would do the same thing to 'Cuse because they have Huggy.
Yes, the Hoopies are playing well and even in a return match vs our Panthers would be favored. They, and similarly PSU, may fall victim to their conference record this year and be relegated to the NIT unless each runs the table in their conference tournamentWell that's your opinion, but there certainly isn't any actual facts to back that up.
The way West Virginia is playing now is that they just lost by two points on the road against one of the best teams in the country. If you don't think that they are playing well it's just because you don't know what you are talking about.
Well that's your opinion, but there certainly isn't any actual facts to back that up.
The way West Virginia is playing now is that they just lost by two points on the road against one of the best teams in the country. If you don't think that they are playing well it's just because you don't know what you are talking about.
Yes I know, you are convinced we suckWe’d beat WVU by 17? Boy I hope you make a lot of money betting alternate spreads lol.
See, there’s this thing called nuance. Look it up.Yes I know, you are convinced we suck
Yes, the Hoopies are playing well and even in a return match vs our Panthers would be favored. They, and similarly PSU, may fall victim to their conference record this year and be relegated to the NIT unless each runs the table in their conference tournament
That said, Pitt is certainly a much different and stronger version of themselves now than when they played WVU in November. The ultimate test and challenge will be for each and every NCAA team as they begin March Madness. Last year's Final Four was pretty "blue-blooded"; it would not surprise me if this year's wasn't
Yes, and If they get in I think they are a dangerous team.I agree, we are playing much better now than when we actually played the Hoopies. If we played them now they surely wouldn't beat us by 25 again on our home court.
But that doesn't mean they suck. Like you said, if we were playing them again and we were playing them on a neutral court, they would be favored. Doesn't mean we couldn't beat them. But we would absolutely be underdogs in that game.
If they were picking the field today I think they'd be in. But they might want to beat Iowa State and Kansas State this week, just to make sure.
Yes, and If they get in I think they are a dangerous team.