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PSU Recruiting Class?

I would've liked to have seen the Greenfield Bridge implosion. That was an interesting proposition.
 
The last time I checked on the "247" composite rankings, PSU was listed at #14 and Pitt at #34. If PSU's class is imploding with their current ranking, how would you describe the crappy ranking PItt currently sits at? explain?? LOLOLOLOL
 
Well, two Pitt recruits were upgraded to 4 stars on that site but they didn't update it in the commitment list. Plus, our class is not done yet. Has UPS lost their last one yet?

Also, Franklin sucks as a coach. He won't be able to win unless he pulls in a few Top 5 classes in a row, which he won't do. Meyer and Harbaugh are doing that, AND they can coach. All of a sudden, MSU is pulling in a big class, and you know he can coach. So it doesn't matter where UPS is ranked if they are out of the Top 5. They will continue to fight for fourth place in their division during the season.
 
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The last time I checked on the "247" composite rankings, PSU was listed at #14 and Pitt at #34. If PSU's class is imploding with their current ranking, how would you describe the crappy ranking PItt currently sits at? explain?? LOLOLOLOL
Sandusky, ups and Paterno, now that is a joke. LOLLOLLOL. Now Pauly the laugh is on you and the institution of shame ups.
 
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The last time I checked on the "247" composite rankings, PSU was listed at #14 and Pitt at #34. If PSU's class is imploding with their current ranking, how would you describe the crappy ranking PItt currently sits at? explain?? LOLOLOLOL


Yeah...LOLOLOL! Explain this:

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You guys do realize that you are putting Narduzzi and co under tremendous pressure to get a W against the Nits in September? If the Mild Dud sucks that badly & his coaching staff is deserting him, recruits fleeing etc., with Pitt getting the Nits at home, that is becoming a game that Narduzzi desperately needs to win. Because in all honesty, I think its going to be difficult to go 8-4 again. And if he doesn't, then that opens him up to the exact same criticism that many of you have hurled at Franklin after his two years on the job.
 
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You guys do realize that you are putting Narduzzi and co under tremendous pressure to get a W against the Nits in September? If the Mild Dud sucks that badly & his coaching staff is deserting him, recruits fleeing etc., with Pitt getting the Nits at home, that is becoming a game that Narduzzi desperately needs to win. Because in all honesty, I think its going to be difficult to go 8-4 again. And if he doesn't, then that opens him up to the exact same criticism that many of you have hurled at Franklin after his two years on the job.

Nah...we'll just make excuses for him like the Nits do for their coaches.
 
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PITT was in the high 60s a few weeks ago and UPS was 6-8. Do you see the trends leading up to signing day?

The last time I checked on the "247" composite rankings, PSU was listed at #14 and Pitt at #34. If PSU's class is imploding with their current ranking, how would you describe the crappy ranking PItt currently sits at? explain?? LOLOLOLOL
 
Sadly for them, it wasn't so much the sanctions that led to those results, it was more of what he did to his starting QB which is well documented.
 
Sadly for them, it wasn't so much the sanctions that led to those results, it was more of what he did to his starting QB which is well documented.

Not really. Hack looked bad in 2014 too. And it wouldn't have had that much impact on other positions like DL. Its probably the result of several things, but the main thing is Jimmy & his staff simply got bent over by Jim Harbaugh.
 
Not really. Hack looked bad in 2014 too. And it wouldn't have had that much impact on other positions like DL. Its probably the result of several things, but the main thing is Jimmy & his staff simply got bent over by Jim Harbaugh.
No. I guess you missed some things reported recently. He "Hacked" things up badly for his QB. Not just game day but during the off season too. There are plenty of other reasons that lead to Ffranklin's struggles. But if he had just left his QB alone, he'd probably have a few more wins over two years. Now the book is out on his handling of elite QB's. He will have to overcome that.
 
Well, you can say all you want to defend your school, but if Pitt had a sure fire first round QB and we went 7-6, this board, and you in particular would have went apesh!t.

They got bent over by ohio state, michigan state, and many other schools too.
 
No. I guess you missed some things reported recently. He "Hacked" things up badly for his QB. Not just game day but during the off season too. There are plenty of other reasons that lead to Ffranklin's struggles. But if he had just left his QB alone, he'd probably have a few more wins over two years. Now the book is out on his handling of elite QB's. He will have to overcome that.

How many games did Hack win under BOB?

Stache, I'm a Pitt fan, not a Nitter. And there is a lot more that goes into a football team than a QB thats a 1st round draft pick. Just ask Jake Locker. And unlike Hack, Locker could move.
 
How many games did Hack win under BOB?

Stache, I'm a Pitt fan, not a Nitter. And there is a lot more that goes into a football team than a QB thats a 1st round draft pick. Just ask Jake Locker. And unlike Hack, Locker could move.
You must not be a Nitter after all. Because if you can't see that PSU would have been better with an older and more experienced QB, and would have put together a couple more wins potentially, instead of a QB who regressed significantly, then you haven't been paying attention to them.
 
Well, two Pitt recruits were upgraded to 4 stars on that site but they didn't update it in the commitment list. Plus, our class is not done yet. Has UPS lost their last one yet?

Also, Franklin sucks as a coach. He won't be able to win unless he pulls in a few Top 5 classes in a row, which he won't do. Meyer and Harbaugh are doing that, AND they can coach. All of a sudden, MSU is pulling in a big class, and you know he can coach. So it doesn't matter where UPS is ranked if they are out of the Top 5. They will continue to fight for fourth place in their division during the season.

You bring up an interesting point. What is the "true" class ranking when you take the staff's ability to coach & develop into the mix. It is proven every year that some staffs over achieve relative to the talent rating of their recruiting classes and some under achieve. I've seen enough after 1 year to believe that Narduzzi will pretty much always have a staff that can coach & develop his players at a +10 clip, meaning that raise their recruiting class ranking by 10 to get what the actual performance will be. And based on the fact that PSU got totally out coached in their bowl game by a bunch of grad assistants and injured players taking on coaching responsibilities and given that their best coach (Shoop) left, I'm going to rate them at a minus 15, meaning you drop their class recruiting ranking by 15 spots to get what the actual performance will be. Sound fair or am I being too generous by only ranking PSU at a minus 15?
 
You guys do realize that you are putting Narduzzi and co under tremendous pressure to get a W against the Nits in September? If the Mild Dud sucks that badly & his coaching staff is deserting him, recruits fleeing etc., with Pitt getting the Nits at home, that is becoming a game that Narduzzi desperately needs to win. Because in all honesty, I think its going to be difficult to go 8-4 again. And if he doesn't, then that opens him up to the exact same criticism that many of you have hurled at Franklin after his two years on the job.
The message board trash talk won't exert any pressure on our staff to win that game, they have very real pressure to win it. The stakes are high as far as program credibility and impact on recruiting goes.
 
The last time I checked on the "247" composite rankings, PSU was listed at #14 and Pitt at #34. If PSU's class is imploding with their current ranking, how would you describe the crappy ranking PItt currently sits at? explain?? LOLOLOLOL
You guys do realize that you are putting Narduzzi and co under tremendous pressure to get a W against the Nits in September? If the Mild Dud sucks that badly & his coaching staff is deserting him, recruits fleeing etc., with Pitt getting the Nits at home, that is becoming a game that Narduzzi desperately needs to win. Because in all honesty, I think its going to be difficult to go 8-4 again. And if he doesn't, then that opens him up to the exact same criticism that many of you have hurled at Franklin after his two years on the job.
 
You bring up an interesting point. What is the "true" class ranking when you take the staff's ability to coach & develop into the mix. It is proven every year that some staffs over achieve relative to the talent rating of their recruiting classes and some under achieve. I've seen enough after 1 year to believe that Narduzzi will pretty much always have a staff that can coach & develop his players at a +10 clip, meaning that raise their recruiting class ranking by 10 to get what the actual performance will be. And based on the fact that PSU got totally out coached in their bowl game by a bunch of grad assistants and injured players taking on coaching responsibilities and given that their best coach (Shoop) left, I'm going to rate them at a minus 15, meaning you drop their class recruiting ranking by 15 spots to get what the actual performance will be. Sound fair or am I being too generous by only ranking PSU at a minus 15?


That's correct. Certain coaches need to have highly ranked classes in order to be successful....meaning wins on the field. There are many who don't need highly ranked classes because they have a track record of players getting better under them. Other coaches have a track record of making good game day decisions. Some coaches can do all of these. Some can only do one.

In other words, some coaches overachieve, some underachieve with respect to the recruiting "rankings".
 
Pitt is not a program presently that is full of big time talent. The spring and fall camps with intense coaching especially on defense will determine how much the players have been prepared. In short Pitt is a better team with a veteran QB and OL, RB ect. The D with an infusion of talent and more depth will be better. On the other hand PSU is a giant question mark with a new QB, suspect OL, losses on the DL ect. Franklin and a new staff that hasn't been under fire. Pitt will win for those reasons.
 
"TD_6082, post: 844603, member: 510"]You guys do realize that you are putting Narduzzi and co under tremendous pressure to get a W against the Nits in September?
I say so what, that is what is expected of a Very Good Coach. I think Narduzzi could care less and certainly won't flinch nor treat it than any other game? In Fact, I believe Coach Pat & Staff are looking forward to that Game?

At the same time, Franklin and Three New Staffers have more pressure, and has to worry about Pitt and Temple, but OSU, Michigan, MSU and Iowa too. After all it was Franklin that has talked but not made the walk???

Pitt Pat & Staff are acting CFB Coaches just doing their jobs as expected, while Franklin & Staff keep explaining why expectations are not being met, but wait we have a Plan?


If the Mild Dud sucks that badly & his coaching staff is deserting him, recruits fleeing etc., with Pitt getting the Nits at home, that is becoming a game that Narduzzi desperately needs to win.
No question about it, but Narduzzi's Body language alone just exhibits confidence and accept that challenge with the focus, determination, and discipline to just concentrate on being a Head Coach and no whines or plans required, just doing his job.

Because in all honesty, I think its going to be difficult to go 8-4 again. And if he doesn't, then that opens him up to the exact same criticism that many of you have hurled at Franklin after his two years on the job.
Totally disagree, He can go 5-7, 6-7, and 7-6 but still will have support from Chancellor Gallagher and A.D. Barnes. Coach Narduzzi waited and wanted to come to Pitt. There will be a grace period to rebuild a solid Top 25 Program in just the 4th year in the New ACC with more resources given to the Football Program.

Once again, I think you are underestimating Franklin's precarious No Extension Coaching at a Top 15 1$00 Million Program without any Sanctions and how badly he has been beaten on the GridIron! As well as overestimating not only Franklin's Coaching abilities as you wait to see them, but also ignore his lack of support at a divided Administration, Trustees, Alumni, and Fan Base at Penn State?
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Chancellor's Gallagher and A.D. Barnes vision and expectations to advance the Pitt Football Program with smart judgement and patience and support! As well as, you underestimating Coach Pat & Staff Coaching having to deal with less talent due to Pederson's poison the last 5 years?

To put it even in more reality, Pitt losses to Iowa, UNC, Miami and ND were not blow outs and the Team did not quit even when the games looked lost by the 4th Quarter! While Navy beat everyone except Houston and ND? I just see Pitt Coaching and Player development getting better.
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Franklin& Staff outright Penn State Teams & Players that quit at Half Time and beaten badly even with Great Top 5 NCAA Shoop's Defenses, as they whimpered into losing by the 4th Quarter in all games except NW and barely beat Army? This cause great astounding outrage by lost of confidence by Penn state Faithful and Former Alumni Players and Boosters that has been heard in a divided Old Main and among divided Trustees?

You are not considering that Coach Pat & Staff in their First Year at Coaching played just as tough teams as Franklin but Franklin & Staff were in their 6th Year of Coaching with more talent and resources?


You keep saying Franklin needs more time but he is not being given any Extensions to give him more time? And now you have put equal expectations and ignore the fact that Coach Pat has been given an Extension at Pitt that gives him the time to upgrade his recruiting and talent and has shown Narduzzi & Staff have upgraded their Defense and Special Teams in one year?

Big difference in Programs, Talent, and Coaching that Pitt Higher Ups have in Coach Pat Narduzzi, versus frightful doubts and just hopes Penn State demands from Coach Jimmy Franklin in 2016?
 
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