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** If I could remember who posted it, I would certainly give credit.

** Around a decade ago, one of our fellow posters, who I recall also was an accomplished high school basketball coach, uttered one of the wisest hoops idioms I can ever recall reading here on the Lair. Their words: “Shoot Good, Look Good!”

** The point to this phrase at the time was that bad performances can often be masked when jump shots are going in.

** Therefore, tonight I’ll offer my own corollary which I believe aptly describes the game this evening with Purdue Fort-Wayne. That is: “Shoot Bad, Look Bad.”

** With that, I’d even like to suggest that I actually liked the way we played for better parts of this game, despite the fact that we only hit one single solitary jump shot for the entire first half.

** It’s actually hard to believe that every first half point we got in the first half until Zach’s three with a minute to go was a layup, dunk or foul shot.

** Nonetheless, we scored 31 points and held a 14 point lead at the break, with our All-American candidate only downing a deuce.

** Perhaps I’m a little too old school, but I still think it’s a great looking thing when teams can consistently get loose for layups. Threes are pretty, but points in the paint are great too!

** It’s also a nice looking thing when your team can prevent the other team from scoring while clearing the defensive glass. More often than not, I felt it was a focused Panther defensive effort that just did that. A couple of forced shot clock violations make that point.

** Still, how many college basketball games have you watched this year when the teams combined for just 2 threes in an entire half? Maybe this isn’t your cup of tea, and Panther threes flying through the net is your elixir of choice.

** To that end, the earlier parts of the second half looked a little more like what we are used to seeing, including a couple of jumpers by Bub, and the Panther lead ballooned to over 20.

** Then the game got a little weird and our Panthers started throwing the ball around much too wildly, while losing the aforementioned focus on the defensive end.

** This prompted Coach Capel to call one of the few timeouts this year when chewed out the troops for really uninspired shoddy play. The timeout worked for a while I guess, and the Panthers eventually pushed the margin to 24. But the scattershot finish made the final look a little closer than it should have.

** So yeah, shoot bad, look bad.

** GDG didn’t shoot particularly well either, but he did plenty of good things including strong quick finishes in the paint. He also didn’t get pushed around in the paint, although muscling isn’t really the Mastodon’s game plan. Despite his obvious height advantage, this was probably GDG's best complete game as a Panther.

** Ish’s 9 point effort deserves mention because it was the first outing this campaign when he hasn’t scored in double digits. He’s been remarkably consistent.

** And Blake has been beyond consistent, so much so that his 5 point night seemed freakish. But I have no concerns.

** In total, this game really offered few concerns for me. Sure, it’s always less troubling when your team hits about 8 more threes, which is closer to their average. But maybe it’s better to save them for another night. Another night when we will need to shoot better to look much better, let alone give our ourselves a better chance to win.

** After all, these games start next week.

** Until then, Happy Holidays to my fellow Pitt Hoops fans.
 
** If I could remember who posted it, I would certainly give credit.

** Around a decade ago, one of our fellow posters, who I recall also was an accomplished high school basketball coach, uttered one of the wisest hoops idioms I can ever recall reading here on the Lair. Their words: “Shoot Good, Look Good!”

** The point to this phrase at the time was that bad performances can often be masked when jump shots are going in.

** Therefore, tonight I’ll offer my own corollary which I believe aptly describes the game this evening with Purdue Fort-Wayne. That is: “Shoot Bad, Look Bad.”

** With that, I’d even like to suggest that I actually liked the way we played for better parts of this game, despite the fact that we only hit one single solitary jump shot for the entire first half.

** It’s actually hard to believe that every first half point we got in the first half until Zach’s three with a minute to go was a layup, dunk or foul shot.

** Nonetheless, we scored 31 points and held a 14 point lead at the break, with our All-American candidate only downing a deuce.

** Perhaps I’m a little too old school, but I still think it’s a great looking thing when teams can consistently get loose for layups. Threes are pretty, but points in the paint are great too!

** It’s also a nice looking thing when your team can prevent the other team from scoring while clearing the defensive glass. More often than not, I felt it was a focused Panther defensive effort that just did that. A couple of forced shot clock violations make that point.

** Still, how many college basketball games have you watched this year when the teams combined for just 2 threes in an entire half? Maybe this isn’t your cup of tea, and Panther threes flying through the net is your elixir of choice.

** To that end, the earlier parts of the second half looked a little more like what we are used to seeing, including a couple of jumpers by Bub, and the Panther lead ballooned to over 20.

** Then the game got a little weird and our Panthers started throwing the ball around much too wildly, while losing the aforementioned focus on the defensive end.

** This prompted Coach Capel to call one of the few timeouts this year when chewed out the troops for really uninspired shoddy play. The timeout worked for a while I guess, and the Panthers eventually pushed the margin to 24. But the scattershot finish made the final look a little closer than it should have.

** So yeah, shoot bad, look bad.

** GDG didn’t shoot particularly well either, but he did plenty of good things including strong quick finishes in the paint. He also didn’t get pushed around in the paint, although muscling isn’t really the Mastodon’s game plan. Despite his obvious height advantage, this was probably GDG's best complete game as a Panther.

** Ish’s 9 point effort deserves mention because it was the first outing this campaign when he hasn’t scored in double digits. He’s been remarkably consistent.

** And Blake has been beyond consistent, so much so that his 5 point night seemed freakish. But I have no concerns.

** In total, this game really offered few concerns for me. Sure, it’s always less troubling when your team hits about 8 more threes, which is closer to their average. But maybe it’s better to save them for another night. Another night when we will need to shoot better to look much better, let alone give our ourselves a better chance to win.

** After all, these games start next week.

** Until then, Happy Holidays to my fellow Pitt Hoops fans.
Happy Holidays DT! See you at the Duke game.
 
Dave, Page mentioned on the telecast that the lack of Oakland Zoo members - and fans in general; it looked empty in the arena tonight - may have had an affect with the poor shooting. Not much energy from the crowd. But that's to be expected when the students are on break

I was a bit surprised by Purdue FW given their 11-1 record, the defeat of DePaul, et al ... we could've easily won this game by 30+. The Pitt D was as good as I have seen but P-FW couldn't find a shot to save themselves

We have a tough 5 game stretch coming up (Duke, UNC, Syracuse twice, and Louisville) that will formulate my impression of this team for the season. In an earlier post I said I'd evaluate Pitt after 15 games. This stretch will end with 17 games played. 12-5 record would = my expectations; anything higher or lower will be obviously more (or less) positive

Merry Christmas to you and your family.
 
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I think there’s a strong likelihood that we just faced a tournament team tonight- Fort Wayne (formerly IPFW) is my favorite to win the Horizon League. I’ll take the W!
 
Re: Page and the zoo being why we shot poorly

Why can’t we just have an off shooting night? Why do we always have to look for an external excuse with teams now instead of looking inward? We have one great shooter. The rest are so-so. So if this performance is what brings Hinson’s ungodly percentage down to earth, let it be. Waste it on a bad one. Sometimes you’re just off and there *isnt* an excuse.

The excuse is we don’t have talented enough shooters outside of Hinson. That’s it.
 
I feel it was more of lack of shooting from deep from Hinson. If he takes 8 more he likely makes a few as he has started slowly in some games only to correct towards his mean. But he really didn’t seem to get open as much or take the contested 3s. The 0-4 from twins, Jeffress and Lowe is consistent. Carrington seemed to be the one forcing/odd shooting all night. Take the W and come out guns a blazing vs. UNC next home game.
 
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Re: Page and the zoo being why we shot poorly

Why can’t we just have an off shooting night? Why do we always have to look for an external excuse with teams now instead of looking inward? We have one great shooter. The rest are so-so. So if this performance is what brings Hinson’s ungodly percentage down to earth, let it be. Waste it on a bad one. Sometimes you’re just off and there *isnt* an excuse.

The excuse is we don’t have talented enough shooters outside of Hinson. That’s it.

The dirty little secret is besides Hinson, we are a below average shooting team. Hinson makes up for this but he is the only above average 3 point shooter. If he's off, its very possible the other guys may be off as well. The flip side is we have 5-6 other guys who can make 3s, make multiple 3s and get hot.
 
Dave, Page mentioned on the telecast that the lack of Oakland Zoo members - and fans in general; it looked empty in the arena tonight - may have had an affect with the poor shooting. Not much energy from the crowd. But that's to be expected when the students are on break

I was a bit surprised by Purdue FW given their 11-1 record, the defeat of DePaul, et al ... we could've easily won this game by 30+. The Pitt D was as good as I have seen but P-FW couldn't find a shot to save themselves

We have a tough 5 game stretch coming up (Duke, UNC, Syracuse twice, and Louisville) that will formulate my impression of this team for the season. In an earlier post I said I'd evaluate Pitt after 15 games. This stretch will end with 17 games played. 12-5 record would = my expectations; anything higher or lower will be obviously more (or less) positive

Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Same to you and your family!
 
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Re: Page and the zoo being why we shot poorly

Why can’t we just have an off shooting night? Why do we always have to look for an external excuse with teams now instead of looking inward? We have one great shooter. The rest are so-so. So if this performance is what brings Hinson’s ungodly percentage down to earth, let it be. Waste it on a bad one. Sometimes you’re just off and there *isnt* an excuse.

The excuse is we don’t have talented enough shooters outside of Hinson. That’s it.
In Bub's first 4 games, he shot 14-27 from three. That's 51.9%. But we knew he was never going to keep that going.

In his last 8 games, he's 10-51. That's 19.6%. Let's hope he doesn't keep this going either.

We'll be fine if he settles somewhere around 33%.
 
Re: Page and the zoo being why we shot poorly

Why can’t we just have an off shooting night? Why do we always have to look for an external excuse with teams now instead of looking inward? We have one great shooter. The rest are so-so. So if this performance is what brings Hinson’s ungodly percentage down to earth, let it be. Waste it on a bad one. Sometimes you’re just off and there *isnt* an excuse.

The excuse is we don’t have talented enough shooters outside of Hinson. That’s it.
We had our worst shooting performance in 15 years and still pushed the spread, moved up in both major metrics. People need to touch grass.
 
I feel it was more of lack of shooting from deep from Hinson. If he takes 8 more he likely makes a few as he has started slowly in some games only to correct towards his mean. But he really didn’t seem to get open as much or take the contested 3s. The 0-4 from twins, Jeffress and Lowe is consistent. Carrington seemed to be the one forcing/odd shooting all night. Take the W and come out guns a blazing vs. UNC next home game.
Easy to forget Bub is a freshman, but he shows he still is one at times by resorting to "me ball" instead of looking to get into the offense and facilitating things. At least several times a game he is determined to take a shot for himself come hell or high water. Either he doesn't pass and just launches and/or takes a tough, contested shot.

I don't think we played a great game yesterday. To DT's point, yes, when you don't shoot well you will look bad. But we made a number of dumb passes, and we missed a number of opportunities near the rim. Should have won this game by 30, instead we let them shave a bunch of points off at the end due to shoddy play.

We need to clean things up starting with the Syracuse game.

The one thing that was a real positive last night was GDG's play. Purdue-FW being undersized was a factor, but he was just very active. It was nice seeing us run pick and pops and get some buckets in the interior. He also had some decent drives to the basket.
 
Easy to forget Bub is a freshman, but he shows he still is one at times by resorting to "me ball" instead of looking to get into the offense and facilitating things. At least several times a game he is determined to take a shot for himself come hell or high water. Either he doesn't pass and just launches and/or takes a tough, contested shot.

I don't think we played a great game yesterday. To DT's point, yes, when you don't shoot well you will look bad. But we made a number of dumb passes, and we missed a number of opportunities near the rim. Should have won this game by 30, instead we let them shave a bunch of points off at the end due to shoddy play.

We need to clean things up starting with the Syracuse game.

The one thing that was a real positive last night was GDG's play. Purdue-FW being undersized was a factor, but he was just very active. It was nice seeing us run pick and pops and get some buckets in the interior. He also had some decent drives to the basket.
Bub needs to accept that he is in the Burton role. His driving and mid-range are very good for his age/experience. Settling for 3's needs be addressed by the coaching team. I'd love to see a big rotate out on his drives for a kick (even if they're not dropping right now) to provide that space.
 
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Easy to forget Bub is a freshman, but he shows he still is one at times by resorting to "me ball" instead of looking to get into the offense and facilitating things. At least several times a game he is determined to take a shot for himself come hell or high water. Either he doesn't pass and just launches and/or takes a tough, contested shot.

I don't think we played a great game yesterday. To DT's point, yes, when you don't shoot well you will look bad. But we made a number of dumb passes, and we missed a number of opportunities near the rim. Should have won this game by 30, instead we let them shave a bunch of points off at the end due to shoddy play.

We need to clean things up starting with the Syracuse game.

The one thing that was a real positive last night was GDG's play. Purdue-FW being undersized was a factor, but he was just very active. It was nice seeing us run pick and pops and get some buckets in the interior. He also had some decent drives to the basket.
I thought we played a pretty decent first half on the whole. We played OK at times in the second half, but also had two really bad stretches, including the 12-2 run by the opponents to end the game.

The other was the 8-0 run that caused Capel to call time out.

Both stretches were marred by unfocused defense, bad shot selection and turnovers.
 
I was a bit disappointed we did not get Hinson more open looks. Teams are now really concentrating on him, working hard to take him out of the game. this opens things up for others, or it should. I did not see us trying hard to get Blake clean looks last night, which confused me. I can't believe PFW defense was that good. It is nice seeing GDG develop. he is very talented, and a lot stronger than a year ago., I think we will see more out of his brother as well.
 
I was a bit disappointed we did not get Hinson more open looks. Teams are now really concentrating on him, working hard to take him out of the game. this opens things up for others, or it should. I did not see us trying hard to get Blake clean looks last night, which confused me. I can't believe PFW defense was that good. It is nice seeing GDG develop. he is very talented, and a lot stronger than a year ago., I think we will see more out of his brother as well.

I also think Blake was making an effort to get others involved, and/or not let it fly quite as much as he has in other games. At least three times during the game, those of us sitting together remarked something like "he usually shoots that."

So in other words, I think Blake will have no problem getting shots whenever he really needs to.
 
Bub needs to accept that he is in the Burton role. His driving and mid-range are very good for his age/experience. Settling for 3's needs be addressed by the coaching team. I'd love to see a big rotate out on his drives for a kick (even if they're not dropping right now) to provide that space.
I didn’t mind any of Bub’s shot attempts- he needs to take open jump shots -

He can over dribble imo.- but they need him to seek offense and take open shots .
 
I was a bit disappointed we did not get Hinson more open looks. Teams are now really concentrating on him, working hard to take him out of the game. this opens things up for others, or it should. I did not see us trying hard to get Blake clean looks last night, which confused me. I can't believe PFW defense was that good. It is nice seeing GDG develop. he is very talented, and a lot stronger than a year ago., I think we will see more out of his brother as well.
GDG has improved with more playing time. Jeffress basically stagnant offensively with more playing time. I’m still curious what JDG would show if playing with GDG same amount of minutes. It pushes Fede out, but dude has to respond like Austin off bench if he wants to play more.
 
In Bub's first 4 games, he shot 14-27 from three. That's 51.9%. But we knew he was never going to keep that going.

In his last 8 games, he's 10-51. That's 19.6%. Let's hope he doesn't keep this going either.

We'll be fine if he settles somewhere around 33%.
Yeah we knew that 1st 4 games % wouldn’t last.

I’m not optimistic that your 33% is doable either, never thought his 3-pt shot looked all that good and I think he often takes rushed off-balance 3-pt shots or otherwise not so good shot selection decisions.
 
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In Bub's first 4 games, he shot 14-27 from three. That's 51.9%. But we knew he was never going to keep that going.

In his last 8 games, he's 10-51. That's 19.6%. Let's hope he doesn't keep this going either.

We'll be fine if he settles somewhere around 33%.
Yeah I hope he doesn’t get away from what shot him up the scouts radar (facilitating, getting to the hoop, pull up jumpers, timely rhythm 3’s) and less getting into what someone’s camp (not necessarily him) would think would keep him on the boards. His 3 pt percentage isn’t too important for NBA prospects. They’ll project out his FT percentage to see if they think they can develop him. So let’s hope he has a good camp around him, tells bub to be bub, play within himself and not getting into my turn shots.
 
I was a bit disappointed we did not get Hinson more open looks. Teams are now really concentrating on him, working hard to take him out of the game. this opens things up for others, or it should. I did not see us trying hard to get Blake clean looks last night, which confused me. I can't believe PFW defense was that good. It is nice seeing GDG develop. he is very talented, and a lot stronger than a year ago., I think we will see more out of his brother as well.
We probably missed 5-10 point plank shots. Gotta shore that up.
 
We probably missed 5-10 point plank shots. Gotta shore that up.
Busy with other things so didn't watch game when it was played live. However, did watch it as a replay on ESPN later last night. At that point I had already seen the score and had wondered why it was so low and also had checked the boxscore to be appalled by the low shooting percentages.

Given the above influencing what I was about to watch----IMHO, the Pitt guys seemed to be exhibiting anxiousness to get out of the gym and on with their Christmas break. To that end, they appeared to me to be offensively unfocused and seemed to be rushing their jump shots. Just my viewpoint, however.
 
In Bub's first 4 games, he shot 14-27 from three. That's 51.9%. But we knew he was never going to keep that going.

In his last 8 games, he's 10-51. That's 19.6%. Let's hope he doesn't keep this going either.

We'll be fine if he settles somewhere around 33%.
So many times it has looked pretty, just managed to find its way out. So I think 33%+ consistently is certainly is within reach
 
Blake wearing christmas socks caused his shot to be off.
Yep. Agree. Not so much physically. But it showed where his mindset was. The entire team didn’t look very focused on the offensive end.

For 1 game vs a Horizon League team, that’s not really such a big deal. It was a wire to wire win and the outcome was never in doubt.

Now they all get 5 days off. Can refresh their bodies and minds. They’ll need to be locked in and ready for business when they return to practice on the 26th. Will be interesting to see how they handle things.
 
In addition to GDG, Austin also had a nice game.

Maybe Hinson has an NIL deal with EL Jefe. Knowing the PA announcer was going to let everyone know they are open until 4am, they may have asked Blake to try to keep the point total under 60. Can't be handing out free tacos all night long.
 
A few other Moe-bservations ...

Aside from we Pitt fans, who else really cares how we won last night's game? Did anyone watch the post-game press conference? Coach focused on the positives: defense, keeping P-FW out of their usual rhythm, and using our height advantage. Capel had nothing but praise for the team; I don't think he was "spinning it" to placate the players

NET, KenPom, RPI, Lunardi, et al probably noted that Pitt won by double-digits over an 11-1 Horizon League team, at home. I doubt they dove any deeper to see where the points came from or how each individual Pitt player fared. Going forward, should P-FW win the Horizon and have a reasonable W/L record, last night's win will be a big plus for us. If not, it will merely go down as an expected win

In keeping with Coach Capel's final comments, I am going to take a few days off from the Pitt Rivals boards to enjoy family and friends and the holidays. Best wishes to all the Pitt fans during the holiday season. See y'uns for the 'Cuse game ...
 
I was a bit surprised by Purdue FW given their 11-1 record, the defeat of DePaul, et al ... we could've easily won this game by 30+. The Pitt D was as good as I have seen but P-FW couldn't find a shot to save themselves


Early in the second half the guy I go to the games with turns to me and says "I don't understand how this team can only have one loss." And I said to him, it's because they've only played one top 100 team all season so far, and they lost that one by 16. Well, now they've played a second, and they lost that one by 14.

The highest ranked team in Pomeroy they've beaten is Oakland, who is 152. The second highest ranked team is DePaul, and they are 212. Their non-conference SOS is 339. In short, they aren't all that good.

Fortunately for them, their conference doesn't actually have any good teams in it (Youngstown State might be the best team in the league), so their record should end up pretty good, even if they aren't.
 
Re: Page and the zoo being why we shot poorly

Why can’t we just have an off shooting night? Why do we always have to look for an external excuse with teams now instead of looking inward? We have one great shooter. The rest are so-so. So if this performance is what brings Hinson’s ungodly percentage down to earth, let it be. Waste it on a bad one. Sometimes you’re just off and there *isnt* an excuse.

The excuse is we don’t have talented enough shooters outside of Hinson. That’s it.
Yeah, that’s a concern I have going forward. Only Blake Henson is a consistently good outside shooter.
 
Early in the second half the guy I go to the games with turns to me and says "I don't understand how this team can only have one loss." And I said to him, it's because they've only played one top 100 team all season so far, and they lost that one by 16. Well, now they've played a second, and they lost that one by 14.

The highest ranked team in Pomeroy they've beaten is Oakland, who is 152. The second highest ranked team is DePaul, and they are 212. Their non-conference SOS is 339. In short, they aren't all that good.

Fortunately for them, their conference doesn't actually have any good teams in it (Youngstown State might be the best team in the league), so their record should end up pretty good, even if they aren't.

They arent the 80th best team as NET would have you believe but for teams like Purdue-Fort Wayne, its hard to go 11-1. It means they are a decent mid-major. One of those 13 or 14 type seeds.
 
** If I could remember who posted it, I would certainly give credit.

** Around a decade ago, one of our fellow posters, who I recall also was an accomplished high school basketball coach, uttered one of the wisest hoops idioms I can ever recall reading here on the Lair. Their words: “Shoot Good, Look Good!”

** The point to this phrase at the time was that bad performances can often be masked when jump shots are going in.

** Therefore, tonight I’ll offer my own corollary which I believe aptly describes the game this evening with Purdue Fort-Wayne. That is: “Shoot Bad, Look Bad.”

** With that, I’d even like to suggest that I actually liked the way we played for better parts of this game, despite the fact that we only hit one single solitary jump shot for the entire first half.

** It’s actually hard to believe that every first half point we got in the first half until Zach’s three with a minute to go was a layup, dunk or foul shot.

** Nonetheless, we scored 31 points and held a 14 point lead at the break, with our All-American candidate only downing a deuce.

** Perhaps I’m a little too old school, but I still think it’s a great looking thing when teams can consistently get loose for layups. Threes are pretty, but points in the paint are great too!

** It’s also a nice looking thing when your team can prevent the other team from scoring while clearing the defensive glass. More often than not, I felt it was a focused Panther defensive effort that just did that. A couple of forced shot clock violations make that point.

** Still, how many college basketball games have you watched this year when the teams combined for just 2 threes in an entire half? Maybe this isn’t your cup of tea, and Panther threes flying through the net is your elixir of choice.

** To that end, the earlier parts of the second half looked a little more like what we are used to seeing, including a couple of jumpers by Bub, and the Panther lead ballooned to over 20.

** Then the game got a little weird and our Panthers started throwing the ball around much too wildly, while losing the aforementioned focus on the defensive end.

** This prompted Coach Capel to call one of the few timeouts this year when chewed out the troops for really uninspired shoddy play. The timeout worked for a while I guess, and the Panthers eventually pushed the margin to 24. But the scattershot finish made the final look a little closer than it should have.

** So yeah, shoot bad, look bad.

** GDG didn’t shoot particularly well either, but he did plenty of good things including strong quick finishes in the paint. He also didn’t get pushed around in the paint, although muscling isn’t really the Mastodon’s game plan. Despite his obvious height advantage, this was probably GDG's best complete game as a Panther.

** Ish’s 9 point effort deserves mention because it was the first outing this campaign when he hasn’t scored in double digits. He’s been remarkably consistent.

** And Blake has been beyond consistent, so much so that his 5 point night seemed freakish. But I have no concerns.

** In total, this game really offered few concerns for me. Sure, it’s always less troubling when your team hits about 8 more threes, which is closer to their average. But maybe it’s better to save them for another night. Another night when we will need to shoot better to look much better, let alone give our ourselves a better chance to win.

** After all, these games start next week.

** Until then, Happy Holidays to my fellow Pitt Hoops fans.
It was not a pretty game, but the defense was very good against a pretty good offensive team.

I loved that we didn’t rely on the 3 and got easy shots. Just wish we would have made some more. I really think there were a few times where our guys didn’t understand the situation and either rushed a shot or weren’t patient enough for a shot.

A couple of examples of this were when the ball wound up in Fede’s hands with his back turned to the basket. He had no idea where the defense was and kicked it back out. He could have turned and dunked. Then we have 2 semi alley oops that GDG and Blake got but did not finish. GDG tried to catch, turn and shoot in one move instead of coming down quickly and then powering up on a man who could not cover him. Ish then threw a less than desirable oop to Blake that had no chance in finishing.

Watching the game last night, the arena lacked action and it also seemed like the players and game did because of that. Often times that results in poor defense, but it did not last night which is a testament to our team. We did seem to lack enthusiasm on the offensive end though.

The Syracuse and UNC games are huge and neither will be easy. Syracuse is much different than they have been in the past. They play man and attack you both offensively and defensively. They don’t shoot it well, but force tons of fouls. Carolina is much better than last year and RJ Davis is playing out of his mind. Ingram makes them a better team too and then we have Cormac Ryan who seems to kill us often. We seem to play our best against Carolina though and hope it continues. To do that, we will need a better effort by Fede.
 
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They arent the 80th best team as NET would have you believe but for teams like Purdue-Fort Wayne, its hard to go 11-1. It means they are a decent mid-major. One of those 13 or 14 type seeds.


Here are the records of some of the teams with similar non-conference SOS as PFW.

Hawaii: 7-2
LaSalle: 9-3
Bowling Green: 8-3
Washington State (do they count?): 8-2
Chattanooga: 8-3
George Washington: 10-2
Cal Northridge: 8-3
Evansville: 10-2
Columbia: 8-3
Samford: 11-2
Marist: 7-2
Quinnipiac: 9-3

If you don't completely suck (and PFW does not suck) it is relatively easy to schedule your way to a lot of non-conference wins.
 
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