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Re: PATERNO. Cool your jets

a good question. sadly, I believe paterno was above the law.. Obvious with regards to central pa enforcement but even statewide, doubt any DA would have had the sack to go after him in court.. you go after him and fail, cant imagine that is too good of a career move..
lots of people in this state are above the law, Joe wasn't one of them. You will actually come to know this in due time.
 
Are you familiar with the term delusional? How about incognizant?

so, if your coach was innocent of charges you wouldn't defend him? Your dad as well?

a report that the author was paid 8 million to produce who is now referring to it as opinion not fact, and a desperate article to deflect what will happen at today's BOT meeting using a SENSATIONAL headline and alleged information in the body of the article are proof? if it was your dad, you would swallow that and go away?

come on, you folks are better than that. I know it.
 
lots of people in this state are above the law, Joe wasn't one of them. You will actually come to know this in due time.
well considering he is currently taking dirt nap, I don't think we will find out this.. Let me guess, psu fans think that all this evidence will come out which will prove that paterno knew nothing which will prove all of America wrong.. We will all offer our apologies to paterno and his family for unfairly jumping to conclusions and the ncaa will have to bring back his wins.. is this what psu fans foresee? Love you guys in the farmland, such a simple folk.. Kind of cute in a way
 
because apparently every kid that ever was molested by Sandusky went to Joe. Not the police, his parents, his teacher, an administrator, brother, uncle, doctor, nope, only Joe. somehow after getting molested by Jerry, a twelve year old was able to track down Joe but never thought to tell anyone else? If Joe knew in the 70s, then everybody knew in the 70s. what did the kid do, stand in Joe's parking spot until he cornered him?

There will most likely be some bomb shells coming that include men from Philly to Harrisburg to State College to Pittsburgh and none of them is Joe. Other powerful people in power positions in the state, yes, Joe, nope.

keep an eye on the news, it must be fun to have a person like Joe to whip on an anonymous board. Remember Bill Conklin, the Philly Sports writer who was disgraced for being expose as a pedophile? yeah, there are others, Joe wasn't one of them.

It is obvious from some of the other victims testimony, that Sandusky exposed a lot of kids to the Penn State football program...to the point that some came to practices and bowl games. He did this all the time. That was his way of "paying" off his victims. He allowed them to get access to one of college footballs most popular football programs. Penn State football was all that is talked about in Central Pennsylvania.

I have no doubt that even Paterno saw some of the victims and probably engaged in small talk with them on a regular basis over the years. It has been documented that the team and coaches would even attend Second Mile events. And now, with the number of victims that have come forward, never mind the ones that never have...you and the rest of the cult find it highly unlikely that a kid could rat on Jerry to his boss? Of course a kid is not going to the cops or his parents, it is too embarrassing ...all he wants is for it too stop but at the same time he does not want to blow his access to the team, free tickets to games, trips to the locker room after games, etc. You said you raised boys by yourself, so surely you have to know how the mind of a 11 year old boy works!
 
"When the Pedophile ring associated with this tragedy is exposed and it will be, you will find out who knew. Yes, some guys knew but they were in on it also."

Yep. That's what we're saying. Joe will be on the list. Probably you also. Penn State University needs to be shut down. Not the football program. The whole. Damn. University.
 
Comes from growing marijuana in their poppy fields.
they've taken this "the world is against us, only if they knew the truth" angle and it is coming off as hysterical.. The world is against them obviously.. It reminds me of those movies where some dude gets off the interstate and needs gas and stops at a small town and he's not allowed to leave and they have an annual lottery where they kill one person to appease the gods.. Everyone thinks its normal behavior and the outsider is wrong for being alarmed by this..
 
because apparently every kid that ever was molested by Sandusky went to Joe. Not the police, his parents, his teacher, an administrator, brother, uncle, doctor, nope, only Joe. somehow after getting molested by Jerry, a twelve year old was able to track down Joe but never thought to tell anyone else? If Joe knew in the 70s, then everybody knew in the 70s. what did the kid do, stand in Joe's parking spot until he cornered him?

There will most likely be some bomb shells coming that include men from Philly to Harrisburg to State College to Pittsburgh and none of them is Joe. Other powerful people in power positions in the state, yes, Joe, nope.

keep an eye on the news, it must be fun to have a person like Joe to whip on an anonymous board. Remember Bill Conklin, the Philly Sports writer who was disgraced for being expose as a pedophile? yeah, there are others, Joe wasn't one of them.

That's fine. But Joe knew. It is obvious he knew. If he didn't, then he was a completely senile old fool, and none of those wins should be his because he was too incompetent to coach.

Joe knew. Joe suppressed. The entire University failed to investigate and prosecute.
 
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He used penn state football to lure his victims, and paterno allowed him to do it.

It is obvious from some of the other victims testimony, that Sandusky exposed a lot of kids to the Penn State football program...to the point that some came to practices and bowl games. He did this all the time. That was his way of "paying" off his victims. He allowed them to get access to one of college footballs most popular football programs. Penn State football was all that is talked about in Central Pennsylvania.

I have no doubt that even Paterno saw some of the victims and probably engaged in small talk with them on a regular basis over the years. It has been documented that the team and coaches would even attend Second Mile events. And now, with the number of victims that have come forward, never mind the ones that never have...you and the rest of the cult find it highly unlikely that a kid could rat on Jerry to his boss? Of course a kid is not going to the cops or his parents, it is too embarrassing ...all he wants is for it too stop but at the same time he does not want to blow his access to the team, free tickets to games, trips to the locker room after games, etc. You said you raised boys by yourself, so surely you have to know how the mind of a 11 year old boy works!
 
I am a member of the Penn State board. I came over to see what the discussion was. Uncivil and uninformed as I suspected.

Why is every opinion aside from "Joe Paterno is completely innocent" uninformed? There is much more evidence and damning evidence that he knew than he didn't know.
 
uncivil and uninformed. really both. but of course, if the shoe were on the other foot, there would be lots of folks on the Penn State boards spouting off half cocked as well without doing any research.

26 years ago I had sex with a Beautiful Martian women who gave birth to Taylor Swift, ALLEGEDLY I am her father. see what I did there? .
Please point out the uncivil. Thanks in advance.
 
It's pathetic really. They swallowed whole Joe's "success with honor" and "grand experiment" propaganda and he became their role model. They practiced what he preached and they all looked at him like a father figure. PoSU football became so much a part of their lives where it was their entire identity. Their entire mood was dependent on what the football team did on Saturday. Now with all of this coming out, to them it is like finding out your own father was a pedophile or rapist.

If they weren't so damn stupid you would actually feel sorry for them, but they act like such childish idiots that you hate them. It is a truly pathetic situation for them.


they've taken this "the world is against us, only if they knew the truth" angle and it is coming off as hysterical.. The world is against them obviously.. It reminds me of those movies where some dude gets off the interstate and needs gas and stops at a small town and he's not allowed to leave and they have an annual lottery where they kill one person to appease the gods.. Everyone thinks its normal behavior and the outsider is wrong for being alarmed by this..
 
no spin man, believe what you want to believe. I am headed out to work, just thought I would see what you guys were discussing on this. Looking forward to the Pitt game this September. I am a Steelers season ticket holder along with PSU, I was really interested to see how the court of public opinion was going.

Thanks for the discussion. And when the final chapter of this sordid mess is written, and Joe is vindicated, acknowledge it.
In his own words, in front of a grand jury, Joe testified that he was told something that occurred in the Lasch showers "of a sexual nature". And then watched that man escape any legal retribution for decades. (And it appears that now there may be a paper trail that Paterno knew back to the 1970's.) Oh yes, Joe should be and will be "vindicated".

Honest question: Is there something wrong with you??
 
This sh*t so tragic. We tend to forget that people's lives were ruined because of his actions. I also find it repulsive to see a whole group of people standing up for a dead pedophile enabler whose surely rotting in hell. They are so delusional you can sit here and fight with them all day long but they don't understand, Joe doing what was LEGALLY necessary was NOT ENOUGH. If I see someone at work sexually assaulting any person I am informing the police, then informing my superiors I have contacted law enforcement. I don't see what is so hard for these cultists to understand. Your Saint joe made a deal with the devil, and with that deal he got Jerry. May he rot in hell for eternity.
 
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uncivil and uninformed. really both. but of course, if the shoe were on the other foot, there would be lots of folks on the Penn State boards spouting off half cocked as well without doing any research.

26 years ago I had sex with a Beautiful Martian women who gave birth to Taylor Swift, ALLEGEDLY I am her father. see what I did there? .

You are pretty twisted in your little world. The bottom line is this. Paterno knew, he helped cover it and your football progam should be abolished. You and your cult members can try and make up an narrative to fit your agenda but thats the bottom line.

In hindsight I wish your BOT didn't agree with the Freeh report, and let the NCAA investigate. The real hammer would have come down then
 
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so, if your coach was innocent of charges you wouldn't defend him? Your dad as well?

a report that the author was paid 8 million to produce who is now referring to it as opinion not fact, and a desperate article to deflect what will happen at today's BOT meeting using a SENSATIONAL headline and alleged information in the body of the article are proof? if it was your dad, you would swallow that and go away?

come on, you folks are better than that. I know it.

Paterno isn't innocent?
 
The OP is correct in making his point but it's also very likely this was the first shot over the bow.

The point they're making is, if we have to pay, we're going to leave no stone unturned. Are you ready for what we both know happens if we go that route?
 
I spend half of my time in Pittsburgh, attended Pitt for a year and a half, PSU as well though I am a Graduate of George Washington University, have traveled the world, served in the Navy, raised kids, etc. etc. its an interesting world, I am interested in what everybody thinks and I don't think most of your fanbase is dumb. I was just curious and I enjoyed the conversation.

what you think doesn't matter to me anymore than what I think doesn't matter to you. it was just conversation before getting on with the day. Thanks

Pretty much the 1st time I felt this way when the Joebots drop by, but I like this guy.

He's sadly mistaken, but he doesn't vibe me like all the other nutjobs that drop by here to defend "The Legend".
 
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Hey gang, I am back, but just for a few minutes. Trying to find a good margarita in the South Hills is like trying to prove the innocence of Joe it turns out.

So, after all the speculation, where is the proof that Joe knew anything?

How did an 11 year old gain access to Joe in 1976 without anyone else knowing? Why are these kids always successful tracking down Joe without anyone else knowing?

When Joe ran the 2001 incident up the flagpole, where/ who did it get reported to? Was Sandusky an employee at the time? Who granted Sandusky access to the Locker rooms?

The 1976 alleged episode, how old was the kid based on what was reported? Where did he meet Jerry, what did they do together? What of any of what " allegedly " went down was Joe's responsibility? How old was that kid again and where did he meet Jerry?

Hang on to what you can from this, yet another court of public opinion smear job, and gloat to your hearts content. Everything evens out eventually, everything.

Ciao.
 
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Hey gang, I am back, but just for a few minutes. Trying to find a good margarita in the South Hills is like trying to prove the innocence of Joe it turns out.

So, after all the speculation, where is the proof that Joe knew anything?

How did an 11 year old gain access to Joe in 1976 without anyone else knowing? Why are these kids always successful tracking down Joe without anyone else knowing?

When Joe ran the 2001 incident up the flagpole, where/ who did it get reported to? Was Sandusky an employee at the time? Who granted Sandusky access to the Locker rooms?

The 1976 alleged episode, how old was the kid based on what was reported? Where did he meet Jerry, what did they do together? What of any of what " allegedly " went down was Joe's responsibility? How old was that kid again and where did he meet Jerry?

Hang on to what you can from this, yet another court of public opinion smear job, and gloat to your hearts content. Everything evens out eventually, everything.

Ciao.
Steel cactus coming to cool springs in bethel park soon. Paterno is in hell.
 
Hey gang, I am back, but just for a few minutes. Trying to find a good margarita in the South Hills is like trying to prove the innocence of Joe it turns out.

So, after all the speculation, where is the proof that Joe knew anything?

How did an 11 year old gain access to Joe in 1976 without anyone else knowing? Why are these kids always successful tracking down Joe without anyone else knowing?

When Joe ran the 2001 incident up the flagpole, where/ who did it get reported to? Was Sandusky an employee at the time? Who granted Sandusky access to the Locker rooms?

The 1976 alleged episode, how old was the kid based on what was reported? Where did he meet Jerry, what did they do together? What of any of what " allegedly " went down was Joe's responsibility? How old was that kid again and where did he meet Jerry?

Hang on to what you can from this, yet another court of public opinion smear job, and gloat to your hearts content. Everything evens out eventually, everything.

Ciao.
Get lost you sick, twisted, cult member. Children were raped and their lives were ruined in the name of Paterno's Grand Experiment.
 
tgar
I will call paterno is piece of animal dung, and I won't be anonymous about it. My name is Joe Hudak.
He knew about Sandusky in the 70's liking of little boys and did absolutely NOTHING ABOUT IT.

It was done for no other reason than to protect his precious football team.

You want to call others out for being anonymous then you should state your real name and no hid
behind some code name
By the way Joe, I appreciate your response. I am just going to step out on a limb here and guess that you are not the attorney downtown.
Steel cactus coming to cool springs in bethel park soon. Paterno is in hell.

My version of religion has no hell. Yeah, hitler and PolPot don't get invited to the club but Joe does. You will too. Thanks for the drink tip.
 
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By the way Joe, I appreciate your response. I am just going to step out on a limb here and guess that you are not


My version of religion has no hell. Yeah, hitler and PolPot don't get invited to the club but Joe does. You will too. Thanks for the drink tip.
your version is wrong
 
Hey gang, I am back, but just for a few minutes. Trying to find a good margarita in the South Hills is like trying to prove the innocence of Joe it turns out.

So, after all the speculation, where is the proof that Joe knew anything?

How did an 11 year old gain access to Joe in 1976 without anyone else knowing? Why are these kids always successful tracking down Joe without anyone else knowing?

When Joe ran the 2001 incident up the flagpole, where/ who did it get reported to? Was Sandusky an employee at the time? Who granted Sandusky access to the Locker rooms?

The 1976 alleged episode, how old was the kid based on what was reported? Where did he meet Jerry, what did they do together? What of any of what " allegedly " went down was Joe's responsibility? How old was that kid again and where did he meet Jerry?

Hang on to what you can from this, yet another court of public opinion smear job, and gloat to your hearts content. Everything evens out eventually, everything.

Ciao.
His own grand jury testimony? Or is that not clear enough?
 
I spend half of my time in Pittsburgh, attended Pitt for a year and a half, PSU as well though I am a Graduate of George Washington University, have traveled the world, served in the Navy, raised kids, etc. etc. its an interesting world, I am interested in what everybody thinks and I don't think most of your fanbase is dumb. I was just curious and I enjoyed the conversation.

what you think doesn't matter to me anymore than what I think doesn't matter to you. it was just conversation before getting on with the day. Thanks
My dying words,I wish I would of done more. Who cares I don't want to ruin anyone's weekend. UGH !!!!
 
Hey gang, I am back, but just for a few minutes. Trying to find a good margarita in the South Hills is like trying to prove the innocence of Joe it turns out.

So, after all the speculation, where is the proof that Joe knew anything?

How did an 11 year old gain access to Joe in 1976 without anyone else knowing? Why are these kids always successful tracking down Joe without anyone else knowing?

When Joe ran the 2001 incident up the flagpole, where/ who did it get reported to? Was Sandusky an employee at the time? Who granted Sandusky access to the Locker rooms?

The 1976 alleged episode, how old was the kid based on what was reported? Where did he meet Jerry, what did they do together? What of any of what " allegedly " went down was Joe's responsibility? How old was that kid again and where did he meet Jerry?

Hang on to what you can from this, yet another court of public opinion smear job, and gloat to your hearts content. Everything evens out eventually, everything.

Ciao.

Question, do you support sandusky's appeal right now? And I'm not asking if you support his right to an appeal...but if you support his appeal? I would have to think yes because it's more ammunition for you prove joe's "innocence"

Also who is a bigger victim in his? The kids, ups, the football program or paterno?
 
If this keeps going, the Pitt/PSU game is going to be UGLY...and I don't mean on the field.
 
If this keeps going, the Pitt/PSU game is going to be UGLY...and I don't mean on the field.
Either here or there, this game was always going to be ugly. I have to laugh when I talk to people, because of the dissolution of the annual rivalry, that think that this will be just another game for either team. They have no idea.
 
Either here or there, this game was always going to be ugly. I have to laugh when I talk to people, because of the dissolution of the annual rivalry, that think that this will be just another game for either team. They have no idea.

The National Guard will be called to Heinz Field...
 
tjar is spewing venom on BWI saying the statue should go back up! This is the kind of sick people we are dealing with!

Well, maybe it should . . . but only after it is retrofitted with a blindfold, gag, and earplugs. No, better yet, position it next to some sand, and reconstruct it so that Joe's head is in the sand.
 
tgar is just gold over on BWI right now. Pure gold. He plans to call the A.D. and the school president on Monday (obviously does not want to ruin anyone's weekend). Hope he stops back in over here to let us know when the statue will be going back up. I will admit, however, that poking people's eyeballs is better than what usually gets poked at Penn St. Some snippets from tgar's BWI rant:

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/put-the-statue-back-where-it-belongs.116088/

tgar: "Invite all the press, and start ****ing poking your fingers in everyone's eyeballs.

I don't care who likes the statue and who doesn't, it's symbolism.

Time to wrestle the narrative away from the press, Sara Ganim, officials, etc. yes, this means the dumb shit old guard BOT have to swallow their pride. They sure as hell are doing as little as possible to change the direction of these unraveling events.

tgar: "I intend on calling the AD as well as the presidents office on Monday. I know who the pussies are that created this mess. The fan base should not be the only group defending Joe and the Program and the University.

The old guard BOT can't right all the wrongs they created, I am sure they never envisioned things playing out like this, but they can damn well sure as hell start."
 
It will be much uglier here because their fans will feel backed in a corner and we all know what happens when people have that mentality. At least there, fear of what they could do as a group would keep most outsiders in line.

Either here or there, this game was always going to be ugly. I have to laugh when I talk to people, because of the dissolution of the annual rivalry, that think that this will be just another game for either team. They have no idea.
 
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