Recruitsreadtheseboards, post: 1870625, member: 2328"Really solid post. Just to highlight.
1)Franklin is doing a great job of that. And it is working, at least on the recruiting trail. He is locking up Eastern PA kids, and is getting a few, select WPA kids. Whatever he is selling, kids are buying whether Pitt fans want to hear this or not. I also think there still is alot of negative recruiting surrounding Pitt, centering around attendance and how long Narduzzi will be here. Because Pitt right now is in a much better place than a long time, yet local kids aren't staying home at the same rate they used to.
Thank you and having respect of your own posting I take that as great compliment.
I Quite agree, and if PSU did not go 11-3 in 2016 and would have lost 4 games, Franklin would have a very tough time. Franklin has a great personality and and Smith knows his High Schools and no reason to be jealous about it, just accept and respect it. Also, no one should fault Penn State for having their eye on Coaching, Building Its Program, Winning, Summer Recruiting Camps of 3,000 Invites, Coaching Clinics, On Campus Faculties and Private Apartments Right next to them, and earning the Top 5 Attendance as Bowl games and creating a system whereby they do gets awards of graduating their Players at 70% 80% and sometimes 90% Levels as part of selling their Programs with curriculum easy to do it at a large Public School in Central PA easier to get to by Driving in the North East with one day. I admire what Penn State has done.This is why I follow and stay in contact with PSU, USC, ND, OSU, UVA, UTexas, Michigan & WVU Boosters and in case of PSU many Top Employees. One Phone call when they make News and know far more what is happening and when talking asking what are you hearing?
2) I really like this part. Narduzzi is recreating prime talent areas, now that we are in the ACC, easier to recruit these areas. And sadly, it seems easier to sell Pitt to outside kids than local kids.
Pitt had no problem overcoming it in 1970s even with so many more disadvantages. Pitt still actually produced and does better in developing Individual Talent but not Teams due to Chancellors Poor Vision, Horrible Athletic Directors Selections, instead of Building a Dome stadium on campus where Peat Is, chose off Campus Facilities, and had to work harder just to acquire Coaching, Athletic Department, Conference, and Budgetary Stability from 1989 until 2013. Pitt is on a better level now but the B1G & SEC is still way ahead of ACC, P-12, and B-12, and Penn State takes in $76 Million & Spends $36 Million but Clemson, FSU, and VT prove it is just as easy to win Acc Coastal, Acc, and NCS too, even better than Penn State that has to deal with Michigan and OSU. So, Pitt can do it too with more time as it rebuilds as well. A Good Coach at a Top Program can look great for a while, but to maintain it is harder going against Great Coaches at a top Program like Harbaugh and Meyers. Franklln has the tougher task is what I am saying until he can prove he is a Great Coach, 2017 will reveal more and he does have flaws. Narduzzi even with way less is the better Coach and most that know CFB can see it. Coach Pat Task is Rebuilding Pitt Program and overcoming Pitt Past Problems due to poor Pitt Chancellor Visions and selection of Poor Athletic People that chased away the better Coaches. Pitt must find Great & Right People that want to stay at Pitt, not use Pitt for themselves! It really does take finding and supporting special people and Pitt can do that now better than ever before now.
3) I don't know about this.
You or others and me do not have to know about it. Clemson, TCU, Stanford, FSU, and Baylor before the scandal has proven it. along with Wisky, MSU, UCLA, KSU, ULOU, Northwestern, and now Miami rebuilding to a lesser extent doing it. All these Programs found the Right People and Coaches to carry out their Chancellor's Vision and give the Top Programs with Great Coaches a run for Conference & NCS Wins. I follow Sports Management and Economics as a Hobby and some Programs catch my attention from time to time based on Whom they hired and many Sports Lawyers know all about it. Same in the NFL, way back in the 1980s it was known only 6 owners cared about winning the Super Bowl and actually made less money doing it. The Rests of the Owners treated their Clubs like a Toy and was happy making money without winning the Super Bowl. Those six clubs were Pittsburgh, Dallas, Oakland, Denver, Giants, and San Francisco Owners told to me face by Jim Finks himself. It has changed since, but the Clubs now take it more seriously and the NFL is designed to make it hard to establish dynasties. Yet, when you do get an Owner that Finds and Keeps a Great Coach you separate from the rests and one can see it again in New England, Dallas, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Denver, Baltimore that past 15 years.
Same with College Football, BAMA, OSU, MICHIGAN, OU, FSU, USC, ND, LSU, and UTEXAS will always have the means to compete for National Championships but it takes finding the Great Coaches with them using those Programs that their Boosters will do anything to Win and their Chancellors know that comes first to stay there. You can throw in a few more too, but it does not exceed 20! The rest of the 128 FBS Programs must find and keep Great Coaching to compete with those few above.
Once one of those Top Programs does find the Great Coach that stays there, well, BAMA has caused great Chaos in SEC alone that has many SEC Programs changing Coaches often now. Some SEC Schools have fired Coaches that won 10+ games but that is no longer good enough against BAMA-11 & 12 Wins. BAMA alone has 30 Recruiting Staffers, try and beat that with Great Coaching of Saban!
PAC-12-USC is back and off Sanctions as Oregon and some others continue Coach Searches so they can rebuild like CU, Stanford, and Washington now back to challenge USC. UCLA, UA, and ASU may have been a flash in the pans. WSU has Leach a great Coach but weak Program that needs more rebuilding like Pitt.
The ACC has FSU that has come back since Bowden was retired but still has financial problems. Clemson has a Great Coach & Right Athletic Support Staff and now a Death Valley Attendance following, but only made a little more than Pitt? VT is actually healthy and Beamer built there Program with 10+ Years of winning and has one of the largest Attendance going to backwaters of Virginia. Miami, GT ULou are dependent on great Coaching just like Pitt. The ACC does not have a lot of Top Programs and why Pitt can succeed easier than being in B1G, PAc-12, Big-12 or SEC.
Big Ten is still the BIG TWO in Ohio State and Michigan dueling each other every year. Even with all Big Ten Programs now getting big money the rest of the Big Pretend Little Brothers go up and down in Tiers and in the case of Nebraska and Penn State "Tears" losing what they once in 1980-90s since joining. Paterno could not overcome OSU & UM since joining in 1993, and now up to Franklin to prove it, and don't see it even with better recruiting since UM & OSu does recruiting better too. Nebraska won't either, Osborne is gone and NU is not UM or OSU anymore than it was UT & OU? Wisky lives off Alvarez brilliant Athletic Management that chooses what Coaches works under him and Alvarez still knows how to teach his Coaches to coach up Recruit classes below Top 30! Wisky can compete like Iowa and MSU but only due to Great Coaching. Same with Fitzgerald that shows up in Top 25 every 3 years, but is stable and solid now after 8 years. The Big Ten Rest are Cyclical Bottom Feeders that eat themselves against the 2nd and 3rd Tiers that come and go. It will take finding a great coach to stay at them for 10 years too. Maryland may be able to dig out of the bottom with Durkin and a under Armor Booster but OSU & Michigan stomps on all of B1G East, and then PSU & MSU steps on UMD, IU, and Rutgers have to fight it out coming from the dumpters. Trying to establish 10 years of 10+ Winning is almost impossible in B1G East with the BIG TWO.
B-12-If UT comes back as expected with Tom Herman then OU Stoops will find it tougher too. But TCU, OKST, KSU must keep finding and keep Top Coaches and the rest will go up and down. Baylor has a scandal to overcome but Rhule will be there 6 years to do it. The rest can't beat ranked teams too often. Iowa State and Kansas are two last place FBS Programs that Duke and Wake have passed.
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