Rematch in March

[GoZags1]

See you in the Sweet 16 .... which you'll get to from the 4 seed (as noted in the Haiku thread).

Edited to add: Look for a "home and home" to begin .... "possibly" a 4 year series.... On campus/On campus neutral site/neutral site. Mark and Jamie are friends and Few generally doesn't like to schedule his friends ... but this trip was special and I envision it continuing. Hope so anyway. If the Zags can do a home and home with the guys down the road (Morgantown) they can certainly do it with Pitt.

As for me ... I'll get to check out your fine City in June of '16 (US Open). My home course hosted the last one ...

 

[DT_PITT]

See you in the Sweet 16 .... which you'll get to from the 4 seed (as noted in the Haiku thread).

Indeed!

Thanks for your contributions to our board.

 

[The Sisco Kid]

See you in the Sweet 16 .... which you'll get to from the 4 seed (as noted in the Haiku thread).

Bring It!!

 

[Pittx9]

You know, before cancelling the game was really mentioned and we were playing well I was thinking that. These look two teams that could meet in March... deep in the tourney!

 

[Scruffy the Panther]

See you in the Sweet 16 .... which you'll get to from the 4 seed (as noted in the Haiku thread).

It's a shame we couldn't finish what was already a great game. Good luck the rest of your season.

 

[CentPaPittFan]

That sounds like a plan!!!! Good Luck.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Love the Zags and Few except for tonight of course. I hope you're right.

 

[UPitt '89]

No way Pitt plays a home and home with Gonzaga. We dont play true road games on the OOC.

Nonsense. We played Washington home and home a few years back. We did the same with Wisconsin. And Florida State when we were in the BE.

 

[Pittx9]

No way Pitt plays a home and home with Gonzaga. We dont play true road games on the OOC.

When did James from State College start coaching our basketball team?

 

[Pittnerski]

I don't like anything about the Zags. Soft schedule. Get up for 3-4 OOC games per season. Always been one of my most hated college teams. Over seeded.

Lately, he's been getting recruits and they've been scheduling more aggressively. Still no way Few runs off a 80% win pct in the old big east and ACC

 

[Pittx9]

I don't like anything about the Zags. Soft schedule. Get up for 3-4 OOC games per season. Always been one of my most hated college teams. Over seeded.

Lately, he's been getting recruits and they've been scheduling more aggressively. Still no way Few runs off a 80% win pct in the old big east and ACC

I don't dislike Gonzaga, I think Few is a good coach and a good guy. But totally agree that pretty much every year they are over seeded. If anyone wants to argue that Few would win with Gonzaga that much in the Big East or ACC they are lying right to themselves. Still a good program, but absolutely 90% of their schedule every year is a cakewalk.

The fact that Dixon and Few had pretty much the same winning percentage for a few years until recently shows how good Dixon is. IMO his resume is much more impressive as he's gone up against college basketball's best every year in conference, and beaten them many times. Both teams have not had a lot of tourney success so you can't really argue that Pitt bowing out in March means they haven't been as good of a program. On the other hand, Gonzaga does bring in bigger name recruits a lot of years.

 

[GoZags1]

I don't dislike Gonzaga, I think Few is a good coach and a good guy. But totally agree that pretty much every year they are over seeded. .

Really?

Their average seed has been 7.1 (and that includes the three seasons where they've been Top 2 seeds). Their 6 Sweet 16's (and 2 Elite 8's) have been accomplished with a grand total of zero Top 25 recruiting classes.

And while your opinion is GU would struggle in a Power Conference ... that's all it is ... an opinion. Things like Sagarin and RPI ratings (which accounts for SOS) say otherwise. Also.... if you're a "Pitt" ... you get to recruit at a high level (you've got your BE or ACC as part of your repetoire). If you're a "Pitt" you also play have your tough conference schedule at home (as well as your traditional cupcake OOC schedule ... at home). GU gets 6-10 very tough OCC games per season but over the years the VAST majority of these games are on the road or at neutral sites. That paradigm is now shifting however, as Arizona and UCLA visit the Kennel this season.

So ... if one is to believe that GU would struggle in a major conference ... one would have to understand that they'd get better home games and better recruits. Sure ... seasons like 28-6 or 31-3 would probably be closer to 23 - 9, or 27-7 ... with a much higher SOS.

But I'm still trying to figure out how an average NCAA tourney seed of 7.1 is being "overseeded" every year.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Why was Gonzaga invited to a US Army base to play a game? They have mostly foreigners on their team.

 

[Las Panteras]

All due respect to the OP,

But the Open will be back at a true Major caliber course this coming year.......

 

[Piranha]

It could happen.

 

[GoZags1]

Why was Gonzaga invited to a US Army base to play a game? They have mostly foreigners on their team.

Huh? The Zags have grand total of one (1) foreign born scholarship player ... the center Shem Karnowski. Domas Sabonis is a dual citizen (born in Portland, Oregon between games 4 and 5 of the 1996 NBA playoff series between the Trail Blazers and the Jazz.

Other than that, good point.

 

[Pittx9]

one would have to understand that they'd get better home games and better recruits.

Valid point. Under those exact circumstances you're probably right. I just don't think if you take the teams of the last 15 years and put them in the old Big East and the ACC that they have nearly as much success. Not knocking on them, as I said still a great program, I respect the way they operate as well, but we're talking conferences that are just better than about any conference. Basically every night playing a team that has a legit chance of beating anyone else (more so true in the old Big East because of the more rugged play.)

It's the same argument in basketball as football. It is what it is. Making the Elite 8 or even the Sweet 16 is a great achievement. But playing an entire conference slate against significantly lower competition just isn't as impressive. I really think this year I could really be proven wrong though. I think Wiltjer is going to be one of the best in the country and Gonzaga could potentially go further in the tourney than they have yet to date.

 

[GoZags1]

But the Open will be back at a true Major caliber course this coming year.......

I'll go with Mike Davis and the USGA every time over some guy with the handle "Las Panteras" While it's true there WILL be some improvements (particularly in the setup and with spectator access) the next time Chambers Bay hosts the US Open ... it's also true that we WILL host another one.

In the meantime, I got to play at your place a couple of times in June of '14 ... that was a highlight.

 

[JS School]

I'll go with Mike Davis and the USGA every time over some guy with the handle "Las Panteras" While it's true there WILL be some improvements (particularly in the setup and with spectator access) the next time Chambers Bay hosts the US Open ... it's also true that we WILL host another one.

In the meantime, I got to play at your place a couple of times in June of '14 ... that was a highlight.

Chambers Bay is the Gonzaga of Major championship golf courses, and I mean that as a compliment. But you will find (or may have found) that Oakmont is a blue blood, the equivalent of Kentucky.

For what it's worth, I would say Pebble Beach is Duke, Shinnecock is Kansas, and Pinehurst # 2 is, fittingly, North Carolina.

 

[KiwiJeff]

Huh? The Zags have grand total of one (1) foreign born scholarship player ... the center Shem Karnowski. Domas Sabonis is a dual citizen (born in Portland, Oregon between games 4 and 5 of the 1996 NBA playoff series between the Trail Blazers and the Jazz.

Other than that, good point.

Many of the posters on this site hold vague notions as facts, facts be damned.

 

[NTOP]

Many of the posters on this site hold vague notions as facts, facts be damned.

Or appreciate sarcasm and humor.

 

[pitt-girl]

If I wasn't before, I totally became a Zags fan when you dismantled the Hoopies here in 2012 in the NCAA's. Good Luck the rest of the year.

 

[Thee Jackie Treehorn]

If I wasn't before, I totally became a Zags fan when you dismantled the Hoopies here in 2012 in the NCAA's. Good Luck the rest of the year.

Yes, I attended those tournament games in 2012, and seeing Gonzaga thoroughly pound WVU in the first round was the most enjoyable moment I had. #16 Asheville came close to knocking off #1 Syracuse, which would have been even more fun, but the refs gave Asheville some additional hurdles at the end of that one.

 

[wbrpanther]

See you in the Sweet 16 .... which you'll get to from the 4 seed (as noted in the Haiku thread).

Edited to add: Look for a "home and home" to begin .... "possibly" a 4 year series.... On campus/On campus neutral site/neutral site. Mark and Jamie are friends and Few generally doesn't like to schedule his friends ... but this trip was special and I envision it continuing. Hope so anyway. If the Zags can do a home and home with the guys down the road (Morgantown) they can certainly do it with Pitt.

As for me ... I'll get to check out your fine City in June of '16 (US Open). My home course hosted the last one ...

You'll love Oakmont. It reeks of tradition.

 

[R-M-U-h-o-o-p-s-f-a-n]

Yes, I attended those tournament games in 2012, and seeing Gonzaga thoroughly pound WVU in the first round was the most enjoyable moment I had. #16 Asheville came close to knocking off #1 Syracuse, which would have been even more fun, but the refs gave Asheville some additional hurdles at the end of that one.

As they (the refs) seem to do a lot to mid-major teams.

RMU would've beat #2 seed Villanova in 2010, but the refs basically gave Nova the game with terrible calls against RMU. RMU lost by 3 in OT.