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IF and that's a huge if, Rowan is able to reclassify and become eligible and IF he were to sign with Pitt, an extra scholarship would have to become available. Maybe Pitt would release Cam Johnson with the understanding that they would re-sign him next year when 4 scholies open up. This would give him an extra year to rehab his shoulder surgery. Perhaps even a walk-on status for this year only. Just a thought. Go Pitt!
 
Correction. When I typed this, my computer automatically skipped to the thread title. I was unaware of this until I posted thread. There is nothing wrong with Rowan's shoulder. I was referring to Cam's. My fault. Go Pitt!
 
On January 23rd, it was reported in the PG that Cam's shoulder had not responded to rest, treatment or physical therapy, and they had thus decided he needed surgery, but that had not been scheduled at that time.

Otherwise, it is not generally known where things have gone since then. This is one area where the people on the pay board probably know a lot more.

If Cam is still having problems with the shoulder, that is not good.
 
I think the line on Rowan, and Heron as well, is Dixon went with the 'early commits' and in both cases, it did not work. Both just re-opened their commitment when it came time to get serious. Still possible either or both may commit here but not really much different compared with any other recruit... maybe at a disadvantage I dunno. I would guess that Dixon will not be wasting much time along these lines again.

I think the best thing that Dixon can do to improve recruitment is have a much better than expected regular season and a much better than expected run in the NCAAs. Gets you visibility and players start thinking 'maybe I want to go there'. Maybe Dixon is on the rebound from the BE to ACC switch and that will happen this year.

Yeah, better happen soon as the cupboard is pretty much bare come 2017.

I will say that, he seemed to do about as good a job as he could in bringing in Smith, Maia and ANO. Now you gotta win with those players and those you have already.
 
I think the line on Rowan, and Heron as well, is Dixon went with the 'early commits' and in both cases, it did not work. Both just re-opened their commitment when it came time to get serious.

I don't agree with this assessment. Rowan changed because of his father. Heron changed because Slice left (probably). I don't think it had to do with "getting serious about their recruitment". If it did, why commit anywhere? Why not just wait? There is no benefit at all to committing early to someplace you have no intention of attending, unless you are a marginal recruit hoping for a fall back in case you blow up. That probably does not apply to either young man in this case.
 
I don't agree with this assessment. Rowan changed because of his father. Heron changed because Slice left (probably). I don't think it had to do with "getting serious about their recruitment". If it did, why commit anywhere? Why not just wait? There is no benefit at all to committing early to someplace you have no intention of attending, unless you are a marginal recruit hoping for a fall back in case you blow up. That probably does not apply to either young man in this case.

The advantage of making an early commitment is getting the recruiters, and the whole thing about recruitment, off your back until you are READY to take that on. When that time comes, you decommit and reopen your recruitment. IMO, that is what happened in both of these cases.

But, yeah, this is my perception on this and others are free to have theirs.
 
I don't agree with this assessment. Rowan changed because of his father. Heron changed because Slice left (probably). I don't think it had to do with "getting serious about their recruitment". If it did, why commit anywhere? Why not just wait? There is no benefit at all to committing early to someplace you have no intention of attending, unless you are a marginal recruit hoping for a fall back in case you blow up. That probably does not apply to either young man in this case.
I would suggest both have their father's whispering in their ears to look around.

Slice was gone a year before Heron opened up his commitment, and if was only Slice..Pitt wouldn't be in the running, still.
 
I would suggest both have their father's whispering in their ears to look around.

Slice was gone a year before Heron opened up his commitment, and if was only Slice..Pitt wouldn't be in the running, still.
Perhaps, and maybe Zara is right that they committed early just to get schools off their backs for awhile. It really is unknowable and probably depends on the kid. I would think the more sensible thing is to not commit early if you are a high recruit, unless one is serious about going somewhere. Actually, in Heron's case, I think the initial commit was thru Slice, and he then maybe just bode his time like Zara is saying. But again, without speaking directly to Mustapha, the truth is unknowable.
 
Correction. When I typed this, my computer automatically skipped to the thread title. I was unaware of this until I posted thread. There is nothing wrong with Rowan's shoulder. I was referring to Cam's. My fault. Go Pitt!
You know that you can correct/edit your post and/or title?
 
Perhaps, and maybe Zara is right that they committed early just to get schools off their backs for awhile. It really is unknowable and probably depends on the kid. I would think the more sensible thing is to not commit early if you are a high recruit, unless one is serious about going somewhere. Actually, in Heron's case, I think the initial commit was thru Slice, and he then maybe just bode his time like Zara is saying. But again, without speaking directly to Mustapha, the truth is unknowable.

If I were a high recruit like Rowan or Heron.... THAT is what I would do. Otherwise, it is a long time before graduation and you have these recruiters from every Tom, Dick and Harry school showing up, kind of like flies buzzing around dog crap, and you are not ready to deal with it. But, if you commit then you can just say 'I have already committed to Pitt' and they are gone. Then, when you are nearing graduation and are ready to deal with it, time to open up your recruitment and go from there.

But, I do not see what good this did Dixon. Not sure he is any better off re these two then he would be if he hadn't made the early offer. We will have to see what happens.

Another thing here... is these are 2016 players. It is in 2017 that things really open up... losing Young, Artis, Jeter, Jones and Newkirk... almost our entire team... and THAT is the year we should be wanting to bring in top recruits. The thing is, an opening to start immediately is something that is most attractive to highly ranked recruits.

The last thing here, is on the ESPN Pitt recruitment page, it shows we have offered Miles Bridges, who is a 5 star SF from Flint, Mich, whereas Rowan and Heron are 'just' 4 star players. So, you never know what is gonna happen with recruitment. But, at this time, it is showing NOTHING for us and 2017 players.
 
If I were a high recruit like Rowan or Heron.... THAT is what I would do. Otherwise, it is a long time before graduation and you have these recruiters from every Tom, Dick and Harry school showing up, kind of like flies buzzing around dog crap, and you are not ready to deal with it. But, if you commit then you can just say 'I have already committed to Pitt' and they are gone. Then, when you are nearing graduation and are ready to deal with it, time to open up your recruitment and go from there.

But, I do not see what good this did Dixon. Not sure he is any better off re these two then he would be if he hadn't made the early offer. We will have to see what happens.

Another thing here... is these are 2016 players. It is in 2017 that things really open up... losing Young, Artis, Jeter, Jones and Newkirk... almost our entire team... and THAT is the year we should be wanting to bring in top recruits. The thing is, an opening to start immediately is something that is most attractive to highly ranked recruits.

The last thing here, is on the ESPN Pitt recruitment page, it shows we have offered Miles Bridges, who is a 5 star SF from Flint, Mich, whereas Rowan and Heron are 'just' 4 star players. So, you never know what is gonna happen with recruitment. But, at this time, it is showing NOTHING for us and 2017 players.
Perhaps you're using a weak reference point?? ESPN's recruiting page?? Maybe we've offered 12 kids. All I know is that there are almost NO "commitments" for anybody in 2017. We're still recruiting for 2015, it seems.
 
Perhaps, and maybe Zara is right that they committed early just to get schools off their backs for awhile. It really is unknowable and probably depends on the kid. I would think the more sensible thing is to not commit early if you are a high recruit, unless one is serious about going somewhere. Actually, in Heron's case, I think the initial commit was thru Slice, and he then maybe just bode his time like Zara is saying. But again, without speaking directly to Mustapha, the truth is unknowable.


There is NO WAY schools will stay off of a 5 star player's back because he committed early. School will recruit until the bitter end, regardless of a verbal.
 
There is NO WAY schools will stay off of a 5 star player's back because he committed early. School will recruit until the bitter end, regardless of a verbal.
I didn't think so either. Seems a stretch then that a kid would commit early just so he would stop being recruited. Especially a very high recruit.
 
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