Shady on DW

[thebadby2]

Here's what you are missing. Narduzzi gives donors pretty much exactly what they want. - a respectable product that wins more than they lose, represents the school well, and does those things on the lower end of the NIL spectrum. Big picture here - if your program can't compete for national championships, you're basically asking donors to throw their money away.

Are we seriously expecting donors & fans to be galvanized by the prospects of winning 8 or 9 regular season games & going to the Pop-Tart bowl in Florida as opposed to the GameAbove or Pinstripe Bowl? Or maybe, if the breaks fall Pitt's way, they could sneak in the playoffs and get curb-stomped by the Big 10 or SEC? It's a money pit and a horrible investment.

If you think significant donors to any athletic program are satisfied with a “respectable product”, I’m guessing you don’t know any.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

If you think significant donors to any athletic program are satisfied with a “respectable product”, I’m guessing you don’t know any.

That begs the question, what does a "significant " donor look like at Pitt and how many are them?

 

[TD_6082]

Dude....don't compare Pitt with back then. That was otherwordly. I mean even like mid 1980's they had top 10 classes.

I hear you. Yet those are classes are what it takes to compete at a high level. Remember before NIL kicked in, how furious Florida Gator fans were with Dan Mullen's shoddy recruiting? His 4 years in Gainesville saw classes ranked #17, #8, #7, #10. That's fine if the goal is 8 to 10 win football. It doesn't cut it if you want to win championships and keep up with Georgia & Alabama.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

That begs the question, what does a "significant " donor look like at Pitt and how many are them?

Bickell, Pelusi, Gallagher are a few heavy hitters.

 

[TD_6082]

If you think significant donors to any athletic program are satisfied with a “respectable product”, I’m guessing you don’t know any.

So you think donors at Vanderbilt & Northwestern don't realize their programs have limitations that other schools in their respective conferences don't?

 

[boseman7]

If that charismatic recruiter met with Shady prior to the ankle and MRob incident, he probably wouldn't have made it past his HS coach.

It all boils down to the product you're selling and what perks come with it.

Case in point - JoePa rarely went out to recruit except in rare occurrences. Who was charismatic on that staff - Sandusky, Ganter, Anderson, Bradley? They were the salesman.

Charismatic guys are only as effective as the product they're selling.

I can agree to that to some extent. But I feel like what is missed is there are guys who come into college football? Who are what I will call program builders and no matter where they’re at. They find the players that fit their scheme that will help them get their team to the next level. Cason point urban Meyer was at Bowling Green, but he was able to recruit good enough to take Bowling Green to another level. Then he goes to Utah and he’s able to recruit good enough to get Utah to the next level. Then he gets to Florida and he recruits on another level to take them to the next level. My only point is that at some point you have to be able to get a guy who can sell himself enough to get the players that he needs to execute the scheme that he has. And I feel like Pat Narduzzi can do a better job of that then what he’s done

 

[thebadby2]

So you think donors at Vanderbilt & Northwestern don't realize their programs have limitations that other schools in their respective conferences don't?

I'm reasonably sure that when major donors write 7 digit checks to Vandy and Northwestern they are intending to do anything they can to elevate those programs to something beyond "respectable".