No school in the acc or big 12 or the pac 10 are going to instantly add value to a re negotiated tv deal.
I don’t disagree. More stable is a better way to say it. It’s weird but the fact that they don’t have any desirable programs is what gives you hem stability.
If the ACC wanted to expand into Big 12 or Pac-12 territory, I would look at the following schools, in alphabetical order:
So would/will the B10. The ACC has no juice to play in this game. It will be hard enough for them to hang on to the best they have let alone adding high profile members from the west coast.
The more teams your conference adds and the more money they make, the better odds of them finally winning some championships, right? If you can’t win them on your own, try to steal other teams from the outside that can win them for you?
This is about money, not championships.
Yeah, but it's still not about what a school adds. The market has changed and numbers are ridiculous. A much worse B12 conference is going to be on par with the ACC in TV revenue.
That's a different argument.
I'd add none of them because it is called the ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE and none of those schools are geographically a fit AND may I add that I feel the same way about Notre Dame as well.
It is a different argument. I'm saying the additional of Duquesne would get them more money by simply renegotiating the TV deal. Now that's an extreme (and deliberately ridiculous) example and I understand you just don't add teams to renegotiate the deal.
The other thing that is forgotten is that it doesn't do the ACC much good to head back to the table until the Big12 and Pac12 sort out their nonsense. There isn't much point trying to negotiate without knowing where the market is set. Also somewhat telling that ESPN has been pretty quiet about the Pac12.
It’s true. The ACC might start efforts to bring in something like Wash or Oregon (or whichever of them is the more appealing) to try to thwart the B1G. That sounds positive as far as showing proactive and aggressive tendency. But say, word of it inevitably gets out. The B1G catches wind, accelerates their own intentions (that already sounded inevitable, but they were dragging their feet). It makes it’s own formal offer to them (likely publicly). That offer would likely overwhelm whatever the ACC is offering, or possibly an ugly public bidding war initiates, that the ACC is doomed to lose. Those schools eagerly accept the B1G. The ACC is publicly humiliated and neutered.
That's exactly who i would want, It makes geographic sense and gives Pitt a real rival again. I honestly don't care about moving needles or gaining footprints.
I have no idea how the ACC feels about the PAC12 schools. Really doubt the conference would go that way. There just isn't much to chase that fits well and adds value. But the ACC has a decent product and ESPN has invested into the conference so right now, I think the TV people want to strengthen it. Not let it falter. We'll see.
