SMF's Top 20 coaching candidates
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Exactly. If Knight was interviewed or considered for the position the last time it was merely as a courtesy. There's no way he was (or is) a qualified candidate. He was a poor top assistant under Dixon, didn't recruit well and doesn't have the bravado for such a big position. Plus, as someone posted last week, programs that want to be good don't hire the #2 assistant at Rutgers. If we're going to be enamored with someone whose name hangs at the Pete, then give Charles Smith an interview while you're at it
Exactly. If Knight was interviewed or considered for the position the last time it was merely as a courtesy. There's no way he was (or is) a qualified candidate. He was a poor top assistant under Dixon, didn't recruit well and doesn't have the bravado for such a big position. Plus, as someone posted last week, programs that want to be good don't hire the #2 assistant at Rutgers. If we're going to be enamored with someone whose name hangs at the Pete, then give Charles Smith an interview while you're at it
I love Brandin Knight, the person, would have hired him over Stallings but the fact that he couldn't even get an Associate HC job at the worst P5 program over the last 20 years speaks volumes.
I like both of those suggestions (Oats and Grant). They are the right age and have had success as a head coach.
If people are so obsessed with hiring an alum, I would only consider Kevin Willard...
Programs that want to be good don't hire anyone from Rutgers.Exactly. If Knight was interviewed or considered for the position the last time it was merely as a courtesy. There's no way he was (or is) a qualified candidate. He was a poor top assistant under Dixon, didn't recruit well and doesn't have the bravado for such a big position. Plus, as someone posted last week, programs that want to be good don't hire the #2 assistant at Rutgers. If we're going to be enamored with someone whose name hangs at the Pete, then give Charles Smith an interview while you're at it
I say that after UNC football just hired the Rutgers DB coach.
So if Hurley says no, here's the updated list:
1. Calipari (unlikely obviously)
2. Shaka Smart (make him say no)
3. Pitino (would take it in a heartbeat)
4. Cronin (almost took UNLV last year, make him tell you no, Cincy has no money)
5. Martin
6. Buzz
7. Pearl
8. Sampson (moves way up)
9. Bobby Hurley
10. Cuonzo (moves up)
11. Turgeon
12. Cooley
13. Nate Oats
14. Musselman
15. Wojo
16. Chris Collins
17. Earl Grant
18. Capel
19. Scheyer
20. Hopkins
Shoulda consulted the 🐐. Coulda had #2, 3, 4, 5, and 15. Instead we went with #20
Yep, I thought he was attainable. He wanted out of Cincy in the worst way. Actually he and UCLA lucked into each other as UCLA wanted Dixon but TCU wouldn't let him speak to them.
Might get 3 of my list in this year's Final Four and all 3 would have at least listened. Enfield would have been the most unrealistic. I think we could have had Cronin. Sampson would have listened.
Sampson wouldn’t have listened. Houston is set up for success. Cronin is 1 of the two on that list who would’ve taken it.
I think for the right price, Sampson would have at least listened.
Interesting, you agree that Cronin would have taken it. Man did Almighty Heather bumble that hire. Cool volleyball arena coming though. Who else do you think would have taken it?
Hooray, lets list the most obvious coaches available and then pretend to take credit for something years later.
You are possibly the saddest person on earth.
Literally could have had at least 4 coaches MUCH better than Capel and I'm not making 600K to make those decisions. This shouldn't be that hard.
Name the 4 coaches on that list they COULD HAVE gotten that would’ve been MUCH BETTER than Capel. Sean Miller doesnt count.
Do so quickly so I can tell you why each of them wouldn’t have taken it. Also the fact you’re beating your chest about this list when you have Ron Sanchez on it who has been awful at Charlotte is hilarious.
Miller, Pitino, and Cronin definitely would have taken it. Martin may have. Sanchez definitely would have as well but he isn't doing well at Charlotte though it would be difficult to do any worse than Capel has here.
Nonsense! I’m not going to say I’m pleased with the last three seasons but we certainly could have done worse with other coaches.
How much worse could you do than going 15-39 in a bad 3 year stretch for the league? Had we retained Stallings, its very possible he could have at least matched that. And right now, Year 4 looks like the worst one yet. We can still land some good transfers but we will likely be picked 14th preseason and a 2-18/3-17 season is possible
I already said Sean Miller didn’t count as he’s still got an investigation hanging over his head which is obviously a non starter. You can’t even follow simple rules. Pitino maybe would’ve taken it. Iona was the perfect job for him to get back in as it was already set up for success. He hasn’t taken a non elite job compared to the league since 1984. So no guarantees there. Cronin most likely would’ve, but changed his mind on UNLV which is a better job. So no guarantees. So basically I told you to name the 4 candidates, excluding Miller for obvious reasons, and you came up with Pitino and Cronin who would’ve been better and Sanchez who would’ve been the same or worse. Good work.
Frank Martin?
And why doesnt Miller count? He would have taken it. The NCAA investigation is meaningless. He would have coached Pitt the last 3 seasons with no NCAA penalties. And I'm sorry but he isn't getting a show cause. Even if he did, the show cause doesn't prevent you from coaching.
"If the school wishes to avoid the NCAA penalties imposed on that coach, it must send representatives to appear before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions and "show cause" (i.e., prove the existence of good reason) as to why it should not be penalized for hiring that coach.[1] The penalty is intended to prevent a coach from escaping punishment for violations that he/she had a role in committing or allowing—which are generally applied to the school"
Lets say Miller coached Pitt for 4 years and then got a Show Cause.....worst case scenario is the NCAA applies their Arizona penalty of a 1 year NCAAT ban to Pitt. And who cares?
Frank Martin wouldn’t have taken Pitt from South Carolina that was so laughably dumb I couldn’t even respond to it. He also wasn’t a fit culture wise.
And you don’t know how show cause’s work, apparently. When he is given one, he will not coach in NCAA for 5 years. It was a non starter and part of the restrictions of naming 4 people who would’ve taken it. And Sean Miller cannot coach. Repeat: HE CANNOT COACH. Even a little bit. He would be awful here. See: his record without Book cheating his balls off. Get off your obsession with him.
You dont know how show cause's work. Everyone thinks its some ban. Its not. Its simply a means to prevent a coach from getting his team put on probation and then skipping town to avoid those penalties. So, essentially, the hiring school has to show cause as to why they shouldn't "inherit" Arizona's (in this case) penalties. And we all know Az isnt getting more than a 1 year NCAAT ban and maybe the loss of 1 scholarship for a couple years. It will be a wrist slap.
If Pitino gets hit with a show cause., Iona doesn't have to fire him. They may just end up getting Louisville's penalties for hiring him (1 year NCAAT ban).
The show cause really isnt a big deal. And let me ask you this:
Would Miller have done better or worse than 15-39?
Would he have a better roster coming back in Year 4 than Femi, Horton, Sibande, Jeffress, Collier, and Amadusun? Your best guess please.
So explain why Bruce pearl didn’t coach for 5 years during his show cause? Hint: you don’t know how show causes’ work
And again, it’s all useless because Sean Miller is absolutely useless as a coach and a recruiter above board.
Because no one wanted to to get slapped with his Tennessee penalties right off the bat. I know exactly how they work. You dont.
And you didn't answer my Miller questions.
Why would I answer any questions about Miller? Hes one of the worst X and O’s guys in the country and hasn’t been able to recruit since he stopped cheating. Stop it. Your obsession with a guy who would fail at Blackhawk HS is insane
If it’s no big deal can you name the schools that have gone through the trouble of hiring a coach during their show-cause penalty? I honestly can’t recall any, maybe I am wrong. But if the list is short, you can’t criticize Pitt for not wanting to put up with the headache — that is if they honestly thought he was a good option to begin with.
There haven't been any because no school has wanted to take a chance of inheriting the coach's old penalties. There are plenty of coaches out there to hire who dont come with immediate penalties. In Pitt's case, there was no guarantee Miller would even get a show cause and the program was in such bad shape that it was worth the risk. Heck, I would have self-imposed a penalty in Miller's 1st year just in case he did get hit with a show cause with a 1 year NCAAT ban for Az.
They are simple questions. Better or worse than Capel. He has gone 15-39 and we have 6 players.
OK, so Miller would have won 1 more game than Capel but almost definitely have a better roster coming back for Year 4.
You two trading blows is definitely good for site traffic!
Miller definitely is not a terrible coach— he has won consistently and recruited well. He just hasn’t been able to win in the NCAAT with his best teams.
But then again, he certainly isn’t the second coming as SMF claims. The reality is somewhere in the middle.
That said, Insider is more on the right track in that Miller is un-hireable anywhere that cares about staying clean.
The very last thing on Pitt's mind should have been inheriting a 1 year NCAAT ban from Arizona. Nobody self-imposes more penalties than Pitt football and basketball. An NCAA penalty would actually be welcome for a change.
Sean Miller is a self imposed NCAAT ban without Book’s cheating if left to his X’s and O’s. Him daddy and Archie will soon all be unemployed coaches hanging around girls’ AAU! 3 dweebs who can’t do anything but cheat!
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