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suns-a-bitches!So the Bears had practically a new stadium built for over $600 million less than 20 years ago, most of which was tax payer funded, and now they are threatening to move to the burbs outside of Chicago so that they can "remain competitive". Lol. Eff the Bears.
Could also be a way to leverage getting a better deal at Soldier's. I'm not sure what the arrangement is right now but you could imagine that ownership could want a bigger slice of someone else's pie.So the Bears had practically a new stadium built for over $600 million less than 20 years ago, most of which was tax payer funded, and now they are threatening to move to the burbs outside of Chicago so that they can "remain competitive". Lol. Eff the Bears.
90s stadiums are now obsolete. Next up: early 2000s stadiums.
The following 90s stadiums have been replaced
- Texas Rangers
- Atlanta Falcons
- Atlanta Braves
- Columbus Crew
- St. Louis Rams (well, not replaced since they moved)
We are less than 10 years away from the future of Heinz Field discussions. Will it be a $200 million-$300 million renovation? A stadium in the suburbs?
I've said a million times that the Rooney's need to have a Jerry World built for them, which can be downsized for Pitt and configured for an MLS team
So the Bears had practically a new stadium built for over $600 million less than 20 years ago, most of which was tax payer funded, and now they are threatening to move to the burbs outside of Chicago so that they can "remain competitive". Lol. Eff the Bears.
The cities should be sending a hard no to spending money on any stadiums for billionaires. I would love to see the steelers take their mess to Washington.Difference is, Jerry paid $875 million towards that stadium. You'd be hard pressed to get the Rooneys to pay a tenth of that towards a new facility. I think Heinz remains for many decades, at least partially for that reason..
It's also not like they're going to be able to get away with forcing the Plan A tax on the county again.Difference is, Jerry paid $875 million towards that stadium. You'd be hard pressed to get the Rooneys to pay a tenth of that towards a new facility. I think Heinz remains for many decades, at least partially for that reason..
I've heard this too. I am by no means an architecture critic and have never personally been to the new Soldier Field, but it is apparently quite ugly.And they destroyed a landmark in the process. I know they were tasked with maintaining some of the original architecture but they butchered it.
Chargers have a 5B dollar stadium. Apparently raised from private money though. Quite impressiveSo the Bears had practically a new stadium built for over $600 million less than 20 years ago, most of which was tax payer funded, and now they are threatening to move to the burbs outside of Chicago so that they can "remain competitive". Lol. Eff the Bears.
I've heard this too. I am by no means an architecture critic and have never personally been to the new Soldier Field, but it is apparently quite ugly.
Actually, that's the Rams' stadium; Chargers are a tenant (which of course helps the revenue stream). Also, that's $5B, not $5T.Chargers have a 5T dollar stadium. Apparently raised from private money though. Quite impressive
Problem is that the billionaires run the citiesThe cities should be sending a hard no to spending money on any stadiums for billionaires. I would love to see the steelers take their mess to Washington.
Thank you. Yea, I meant billion not trillion. Still insane. Think the clippers are planning on a billion plus arena too.Actually, that's the Rams' stadium; Chargers are a tenant (which of course helps the revenue stream). Also, that's $5B, not $5T.
It's also not like they're going to be able to get away with forcing the Plan A tax on the county again.
I've heard this too. I am by no means an architecture critic and have never personally been to the new Soldier Field, but it is apparently quite ugly.
Looks like an alien spaceship landed on the old stadium. And it's ugly on the inside with weird, uneven decks.
What the Bears supposedly want to do isn’t feasible at Solider Field so this might not be a bluff. They want to have a fancy strip mall as part of stadium complex like the Patriots, Cardinals and Rams have, they can’t do that at the current site for many reasons.Could also be a way to leverage getting a better deal at Soldier's. I'm not sure what the arrangement is right now but you could imagine that ownership could want a bigger slice of someone else's pie.
That’s what I think they are doing. They only signed a LOI and the deal isn’t expected to happen until late 2022/early 2023.Could also be a way to leverage getting a better deal at Soldier's. I'm not sure what the arrangement is right now but you could imagine that ownership could want a bigger slice of someone else's pie.
It looks like a UFO landed on the stadium, and not in a good way.Soldier Field sucks.
I worked in the Dallas , Fort Worth area when I traveled ..Difference is, Jerry paid $875 million towards that stadium. You'd be hard pressed to get the Rooneys to pay a tenth of that towards a new facility. I think Heinz remains for many decades, at least partially for that reason..
Ridiculous land acquisition costs in Southern California.Thank you. Yea, I meant billion not trillion. Still insane. Think the clippers are planning on a billion plus arena too.
Not as high as in South Oakland thoughRidiculous land acquisition costs in Southern California.
I attended Super Bowl XLV there and thought it was a terrible place to watch the game unless you like watching a game a mile away from the field.I worked in the Dallas , Fort Worth area when I traveled ..
Drove by it everyday for 3 weeks . That stadium is amazing . and Huge !
Not as high as in South Oakland though
Yeah . I only saw the outside . Makes sense ..I attended Super Bowl XLV there and thought it was a terrible place to watch the game unless you like watching a game a mile away from the field.
San Diego did that, they no longer have an NFL team.The cities should be sending a hard no to spending money on any stadiums for billionaires. I would love to see the steelers take their mess to Washington.
I would be just fine with that.San Diego did that, they no longer have an NFL team.
Ask all the people who make money from Pittsburgh having an NFL team if they feel the way you do. I understand the short sighted mentality but then you have to tell the Pens and Pirates to take a hike too, and then we are Scranton.I would be just fine with that.
It looks like a UFO landed on the stadium, and not in a good way.
If you want give the $600 million directly to the workers verses the pennies on the dollars using the billionaire middle men, have at it.Ask all the people who make money from Pittsburgh having an NFL team if they feel the way you do. I understand the short sighted mentality but then you have to tell the Pens and Pirates to take a hike too, and then we are Scranton.
If you want give the $600 million directly to the workers verses the pennies on the dollars using the billionaire middle men, have at it.
Just my opinion but the NFL became a terrible product years ago. It's really unwatchable at this point. I would rather have an NBA team here given the choice.
At this point, I am tired of taxpayers being held hostage. It is time for people to stand up. Where are they going to go? Lansing, Michigan?
Ask all the people who make money from Pittsburgh having an NFL team if they feel the way you do. I understand the short sighted mentality but then you have to tell the Pens and Pirates to take a hike too, and then we are Scranton.
"360 feet long by 160 feet wide. I think you'll find that's the exact same measurements as our field back at Hickory."...Norman DaleThe race to the top for facilities will only affect the wealthiest franchises in the biggest market. There is no way Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Cincy, Miami, New Orleans can afford to build multi-billion dollar stadiums. Doesn't mean the Rooneys won't try to extort one from the taxpayers.
I could see them asking for a 200-300 million renovation in about a decade. And I think they'll probably get it, provided it extends the life of the stadium another 20-30 years. I find it ridiculous when teams put big money into stadiums only to build a new one five years later.