That's why I asked if they're abandoning their base 3-4. I've seen games where they're in an even front 75-80% of a game.
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Why would that matter? Once they're out of college football, get the best player that fits, who cares what school they went too. I'll always be a bigger fan of a Nitter that plays for the Stillers than a Panther that plays for some other team, once they are in the NFL.
We certainly have reason to be big fans of Kancey and I know he put up crazy combine workout numbers, similar to far AD did. But…we all saw both of them play. Let’s be brutally honest. Can we earnestly say Kancey was (or is likely) to come close to AD as an actual football playmaker? He was good, perhaps great at times but never was close to that at Pitt. He disappeared at times during games. No knock intended, even really good players sometimes do. But rarely does AD, at least not unless he has three guys blocking him.
I don’t know there is reason to expect Kancey to come anywhere close to AD in the NFL either. Before the hate ensues, I hardly think that is an insult to suggest Kancey isn’t close to likely the greatest DL of the last 20 years. He’ll likely be a fine player. But I don’t know that I’d want to spend a really high draft choice there.
I don’t know there is reason to expect Kancey to come anywhere close to AD in the NFL either. Before the hate ensues, I hardly think that is an insult to suggest Kancey isn’t close to likely the greatest DL of the last 20 years. He’ll likely be a fine player. But I don’t know that I’d want to spend a really high draft choice there.
pitt fans really need to stop comparing every athletic DL to Aaron Donald. what's weird is even nfl draft gurus are doing it, just because they both went to pitt and weighed under 300 lbs..
True but alot of it was 3 tech work way outside the guard. He wasnt lining up and simply occupying blockers for the ILBs to fill and make tackles. He was getting off the ball and getting upfield. The steelers were Fn awful defending the run and it was absolute garbage defending between the tackles. They are going to draft a true 0 or 1 NT. Thats isnt KC.
Steelers were 9th against the run last season. That's why they kept Larry O.
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It was the combine effort. He put up high numbers like AD. The Pitt connection then gave them their talking points to connect. But how they actually played in games compared to each other is never done, at least not while I’ve heard (admittedly I’m not glued to the subject).
Donald also was not playing with nearly the same caliber of DL (Shayne Hale!!?!!) at Pitt vs. what Kancey was playing with the past couple years yet AD made way more splash plays. Finally, AD won every major national awards other than HT after he was done playing.
Kancey was excellent, but nobody is AD. I’d be thrilled to see him get a high pick as a result of the comparisons but I can’t see him living up. So it’s probably a good thing the Steelers would pass on him due to the 3-4 thing. Bad enough Pickett is likely to keep getting local scorn if/when the Steelers come up short in postseason (almost a certainty); we don’t need another high profile guy to not meet expectations.
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Very true but maybe it is time for a little bit of an update if they have the right guy. Tomlin has stuck to the 3-4 longer than most anyone would have reasonably expected.
Also, correct me if I am wrong, but they are essentially running a 4-3 much of the time now when they have Watt put his hand down and have Highsmith rushing on the other end with 2 DTs.
I don’t have much doubt that the Steelers can fit Kancey into what they do if they really desire. The question is whether they really want to take that leap. It seems as though they have gotten closer and closer to it over time.
yes, those days of us running the 3-4 80% of the time, with those mid 90's cowher teams, are a thing of the past..
it's been stated that we are in our base defense about a 1/3 of the time..
We can debate whether Kancey would be a fit with the Steelers, but the fact that they did not meet with him at the combine, or pre-draft kind of indicates how they feel IMO.
I think Dennis, Haba, Hill or Wayne all have a chance at ending up Steelers. All of those guys fit needs and could be around day 2-3. They had Austin, DB coach, WR coach and RB coach at Pitt pro day. I would add Warren, but I think they take a tackle early and with limited picks, not sure they double dip there. I think some team falls in love with Izzy and he’ll be gone before the Steelers take a back.
I think Dennis, Haba, Hill or Wayne all have a chance at ending up Steelers. All of those guys fit needs and could be around day 2-3. They had Austin, DB coach, WR coach and RB coach at Pitt pro day. I would add Warren, but I think they take a tackle early and with limited picks, not sure they double dip there. I think some team falls in love with Izzy and he’ll be gone before the Steelers take a back.
i'd take a chance on Wayne in round 7 for sure. i think he's a guy that goes as an UFA though. really like him at pitt but just nothing that seperates him at the next level.
dont see Habo as a fit, at all in our defense..
I'd sign up for Dennis in a heartbeat, Hill too..
LMAO A-Robinson sucks. He hasn’t been good since I was in high school. Penn staters suck in the nfl anyways I wish the Steelers got rid of all of them, they’re terrible for our locker room. Mark allen might be the worst player in the league too and his locker room antics are AB lite. I still don’t like Fryermuth even tho he is just ok, I like gentry better for his size and run blocking.
Yeah I agree on Wayne. I think he’s a 7th rd/UDFA type. But the fact that Frisman Jackson was there was interesting.
I think there are other edge guys that would fit better than Haba, who is probably more of a hand in the dirt guy. But he has the size they like and might be a later option if he slides.
i dislike psu as much as anyone, went as far as absolutely wanting Jesse James to get decapitated every time he caught the ball for the steelers but even i have to take exception to your last statement. Gentry over Friermuth is beyond ridiculous...
muth is a good TE, possibly top 10 in the league. Gentry is a dime-a-dozen backup TE who will be replaced in a year or two..
I’m very interested to see what happens with Wayne. Always one of my favorites while he was here. He has had a drop or two in some higher profile situations, could hurt him. But he has made several more important catches than he’s had drops, IMO.
He has that lanky size with long arms that’s desirable, though maybe not the solidity the NFL likes. Speed was probably a question prior, but he had a good, heck, great combine to help allay that. He goes over the middle. He blocks. Reliable. I think he’s underrated.
He has that lanky size with long arms that’s desirable, though maybe not the solidity the NFL likes. Speed was probably a question prior, but he had a good, heck, great combine to help allay that. He goes over the middle. He blocks. Reliable. I think he’s underrated.
But that doesn’t fit my narrative that all PSU’ers suck. PF is Vance McDonald but fans chant his terrible last name after every (shocking) catch he has. If it wasn’t for DJ, he would lead our teams in drops
Friarmuth needs to improve, he has had some drops. He is not at the level of a Kittle or the KC dick. But he’s far above Vance M, who was a massive disappointment. Friarmuth is about on par with Andrews in Balt, and that’s pretty good. Pickett seems to like him. It’s annoying the fans chant for him, as I can never be enthralled with a PSU guy but it’s not intimate love (no Sandusky pun honestly intended there), those drunks chant for any TE catch since Miller was here.
Gentry is a good support guy but could never be the top guy.
Gentry is a good support guy but could never be the top guy.
i think the chant is just a take off of "Heath" chants 10 years ago. a white TE catches the ball in pittsburgh, you chant his name, it's a thing now apparently..
I think it would be funnier if every time him or Gentry caught it, everyone chanted "HEEEEEEEATH". That would be hilarious..
They're definitely more 4 down based it seems as the years go by.
Hopefully this spells the end for old Gunner . Still mad about that dropped punt against the Patriots.
Who will return kicks and punts this season ?
Who will return kicks and punts this season ?
I like Friermuth a good bit but I sure couldn’t come close to saying he’s on par with Andrew’s in Balt. Andrew’s is knocking on the door if not already having it ajar w/r to being on par with Kittles and Kelcie.
You don't think Aaron Donald could have been successful as a 3/4 DE? In retrospect, I believe he could've been outstanding there. So maybe Kancey could too. Or Sam Clancy. Whoever you were referring to.
That doesn't mean that they will draft Kancey. It may be considered a little too outside the box for the Steelers. But I wouldn't dismiss him because of his height weight. Aaron Donald proved that it is not the size of the dog in the fight, it is the size of the fight in the dog.
Yeah, especially since he lines up all over the line, including a ton at DE now.
That is a dumb statement. He raced her. She killed a black guy actually. No one made her race. I raced countless people on 276 (I think thats what its called, been awhile since I lived in the burgh) and if one them crashed and died, sure I woulda felt like garbage, but I would have hardly considered myself a murderer. More like I would feel super lucky my stupidity didnt cost me my own life.
I think the issue is that he left the scene. Either becasue he was drinking or because he panicked.
Andrews is in tier 2 with Kittle and maybe one or two others when they're playing lights out. Freiermuth is firmly in the third tier of tight ends.
CJ Stroud possibly falling befuddles me.
True, I admit, i only seen him play once, and that was against Georgia. But in their biggest game of the season, he lit it up against a very good defense. I cant see a team passing on the kid. I know, OSU is so much better than the rest of the big 10 you cant really go by stats, but he played against Georgia, and did great, so there goes that argument.
Oh well, if 4 QBs are taken with the first 4 picks that would be great for the Steelers, even if it would be nuts. But Young and Stroud should be #1 and #2
True, I admit, i only seen him play once, and that was against Georgia. But in their biggest game of the season, he lit it up against a very good defense. I cant see a team passing on the kid. I know, OSU is so much better than the rest of the big 10 you cant really go by stats, but he played against Georgia, and did great, so there goes that argument.
Oh well, if 4 QBs are taken with the first 4 picks that would be great for the Steelers, even if it would be nuts. But Young and Stroud should be #1 and #2
He didn't. But it's questionable to not call for help. I don't know the details. Maybe someone in the other car called for help and then he left? But if he could have done something and didn't, that's effed up.
