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Steven Adams

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On ESPN right now against the Warriors .. Man does he look good out there .. Developed very quickly into a nice NBA starter
 
He isn't that much better now than he was at Pitt. He rebounds, plays defense and throws around his weight and is considered the dirtiest player in the NBA. He's carved a decent career, but he is far from a star or good player.
 
Makes one wonder why he developed so slowly under Dixon.

I hope you were kidding on this. I remember there were people on this board saying Adams was making a big mistake and would be a D-Leaguer. Most of them were of the same ilk that say no one in the NBA plays any defense.
 
He isn't that much better now than he was at Pitt. He rebounds, plays defense and throws around his weight and is considered the dirtiest player in the NBA. He's carved a decent career, but he is far from a star or good player.

He does exactly the same things with OKC that he did when he was here. And yes, he's carved out a decent career. The year he had here was very important for his development to the NBA.

Most games, Steve Adams will get 6 or 8 points on put backs or dump offs, and play some tough defense. But once in 20 games, Steve will score 16 and someone will say "all Dixon ever let him do was set screens on offense," without any understanding that all he ever does on offense at OKC is set screens on offense.
 
That is totally accurate. He's no further along is his development now than he was when he played for Jamie. Maybe he could be, but he is never used that way.
 
That is totally accurate. He's no further along is his development now than he was when he played for Jamie. Maybe he could be, but he is never used that way.

You guys are way underestimating Adams talent. He's 22 years old and averages 7-6-1 for one of the best teams in the league. Never going to be a star, but so much more skilled than you guys are giving him credit for.
 
You guys are way underestimating Adams talent. He's 22 years old and averages 7-6-1 for one of the best teams in the league. Never going to be a star, but so much more skilled than you guys are giving him credit for.

And he might be the same type of player but it's hard to believe he isn't a much better player then when he was here. If that was the case I would think he'd be near the end of someone's bench.
 
I don't think it's because he doesn't have the talent to keep improving, but that is not the way they use him. Maybe if they ran an occasional play for him, but I have not seen them do that yet.
 
Jamie Dixon's problems as of late are easy to view. However, using Steve Adams as your evidence is silly.

What did Adams do for us? I'll give you his presence inside helped our D immensely but he did nothing offensively and we went 0-2 in the ACCT and NCAAT. The next year, we have Zanna at the 5 and he's a better COLLEGE center and we go 3-1 in tournament games.
 
What did Adams do for us? I'll give you his presence inside helped our D immensely but he did nothing offensively and we went 0-2 in the ACCT and NCAAT. The next year, we have Zanna at the 5 and he's a better COLLEGE center and we go 3-1 in tournament games.
Your comparing a five year guy to a freshman. None of the Pitt/Dixon bitching would be taking place now if he'd had stayed four years. He does what his team needs ,they don't need a 20 pt scorer.
 
What did Adams do for us? I'll give you his presence inside helped our D immensely but he did nothing offensively and we went 0-2 in the ACCT and NCAAT. The next year, we have Zanna at the 5 and he's a better COLLEGE center and we go 3-1 in tournament games.

Your track record talking about Adams is atrocious.
 
What did Adams do for us? I'll give you his presence inside helped our D immensely but he did nothing offensively and we went 0-2 in the ACCT and NCAAT. The next year, we have Zanna at the 5 and he's a better COLLEGE center and we go 3-1 in tournament games.
I agree SMF.. Pitt fans acted like Adams was this great player for us.. He wasn't even a good rebounder, I looked up his rebounding stats during conference play, extremely mediocre. He could block a couple shots, he gets that.. If you look at post players for pitt in the last 15 years, he is not even on the list..
 
He isn't that much better now than he was at Pitt. He rebounds, plays defense and throws around his weight and is considered the dirtiest player in the NBA. He's carved a decent career, but he is far from a star or good player.
He is considered the dirtiest player in the nba by the guys who cheap shot him with punches and elbows to the head after plays and get t's and ejections and get no retaliation from him with very little video evidence of what he does that makes him dirty...seems to me he (supposed dirtiest player in the nba) would be the one getting the t's and ejections......
 
He isn't that much better now than he was at Pitt. He rebounds, plays defense and throws around his weight and is considered the dirtiest player in the NBA. He's carved a decent career, but he is far from a star or good player.

Not a good player is a bit harsh. He is very well respected by NBA analysts. He isn't a great offensive player, but he contributes a great deal defensively.
 
Not a good player is a bit harsh. He is very well respected by NBA analysts. He isn't a great offensive player, but he contributes a great deal defensively.
As a starter, he averages 7 points and 6 rebounds. The back up center, Kanter, plays more minutes and has higher scoring and rebounding numbers. That is an odd combination of stats.
 
As a starter, he averages 7 points and 6 rebounds. The back up center, Kanter, plays more minutes and has higher scoring and rebounding numbers. That is an odd combination of stats.

Kanter is also universally recognized as one of the worst defending centers in the NBA.
 
He is considered the dirtiest player in the nba by the guys who cheap shot him with punches and elbows to the head after plays and get t's and ejections and get no retaliation from him with very little video evidence of what he does that makes him dirty...seems to me he (supposed dirtiest player in the nba) would be the one getting the t's and ejections......
Agree with you...
He plays hard and physical.. And gives great effort... He's a pest, which annoys others...
But he's not dirty.
 
He isn't that much better now than he was at Pitt. He rebounds, plays defense and throws around his weight and is considered the dirtiest player in the NBA. He's carved a decent career, but he is far from a star or good player.

And man, aren't those the attributes we so desperately need? Especially up front?
 
The fact is, OKC shouldn't be running plays for Adams. They have two of the best ten players in the NBA and it is less efficient to run plays to Adams. When you are competing with a team that will win 72 games, you can't mess around.
 
Kanter is also recognized as one of the worst defending centers in the NBA.
I don't follow the NBA much, so that is a good reason that Adams would start. It still seems odd to me that Kanter plays more minutes and has better stats - including PER.
 
Your track record talking about Adams is atrocious.

Great, but answer the question. What did he do for us? We were 0-2 in tournament games and for the Robinson stat lovers, Adams's stats were pedestrian and that's being nice.
 
Great, but answer the question. What did he do for us? We were 0-2 in tournament games and for the Robinson stat lovers, Adams's stats were pedestrian and that's being nice.

I mean. He had 13 and 11 with two blocks in his last game. That's absolutely nothing, right?

I'm not sure why you're trying to crap all over Adams, but you look like a bigger baby than usual. That's hard to do.
 
I mean. He had 13 and 11 with two blocks in his last game. That's absolutely nothing, right?

I'm not sure why you're trying to crap all over Adams, but you look like a bigger baby than usual. That's hard to do.

Most of that was very late after the game was decided if I remember correctly as Cleanthony Early and that other big guy abused him.

1 game, which we were blown out on, is your evidence that he was an excellent player here?

He was good defensively. That's it.
 
Most of that was very late after the game was decided if I remember correctly as Cleanthony Early and that other big guy abused him.

1 game, which we were blown out on, is your evidence that he was an excellent player here?

He was good defensively. That's it.

You've obviously made up your mind and are in a full blown hissy fit at this point. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you. Go ahead and dump on a former Pitt player.
 
Well he has to do something. After all, he's the guy that said that Adams was a D-League guy coming out of college and that maybe after a couple years there would be able to play in the NBA.
 
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In the file of "we will never know" I have argued with Ski about this in the past and who knows who is right. Ski believes Adams development would be quickened by going pro, even in the DLeague where it is all basketball.

I don't know. And this is the problem with a lot of one and dones, and the fallacy of them. Especially for a raw player like Adams. If he stayed, maybe Adams developed more of an offensive game because he becomes the focal point for a team still in college. Maybe he picks up some tricks out of reps and some confidence. But when he went to OKC, who definitely did not need additional offensive options, he settled into a role that they needed.

Again, I don't know who is right here. Just some observations on both angles.
 
You've obviously made up your mind and are in a full blown hissy fit at this point. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you. Go ahead and dump on a former Pitt player.

Actually, its more of an indictment of Dixon that Adams could only manage to average 7 and 6 here. 7 and 6. Those are ordinary, average numbers for a Center. He was Gary McGhee offensively......and defensively, which isnt a bad thing.

Look, in his 1 year here, I think Adams was "good," nothing more than that. He was McGhee.
 
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