U.K. And Kansas have only just recently had centers, 5 star NBA centers, who struggled their freshman year. But then again, facts have never really mattered to you anyway, so why start now.
Steven Adams
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And those teams have excellent supporting casts. We needed more than 7 and 6 from Adams. He was Gary McGhee. Nothing more, nothing less.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with your point. Please continue trying to divert from your point though.
Yes, because he had a lottery pick Center who was not part of the offensive game plan on an offensively challenged team. Adams was Marshall Plumlee......a screener, rebounder, defender.
Im with you on that. I think if Adams had stayed 3 years and matched some big man post skills and a little mid range shooting to his atnleticism he would have had a chance to be a different kind of player in the NBA than a defensive enforcer and garbage man. But he did what he had to do for his family and he's making real money, so hard to fault him.
One thing I'm certain of-we would have been a whole different team for a couple of years.
as far as on court production for Pitt, Adams doesn't even make the top 5 under the Dixon/howland regime.. He literally was a decent defensive presence, a below avg rebounder and not even worth mentioning as far as an offensive scoring option. Weird how pitt fans consider him some sort of superstar for pitt.. But I don't blame Dixon, the kid was as raw as could be, I don't blame adams for leaving, it would be stupid not to.. It really is no one's fault. Its basically bad luck for pitt, I mean we finally get a one and done player, at the Center position, and it's a player that, well was 95% potential and 5% substance...
Nobody considers him a superstar. Unless you know somebody who said it. Many 5 star centers are exactly that. Mostly potential.
ok, well people consider him as good, in reality, he was a liability.. Most one and dones are not a liability.. It's frustrating because I think we really would have gotten some sort of production from him had he stayed one more year and no one on this planet thought he was a one and done player.. If anyone is to blame, its the nba for considering a 7 footer who cant rebound or score as a first round pick..
He was ok. Not great for sure. Not really notable either. It was what it was after one year. The quality of opponent in NZ probably was not near what he faced here. Safe to say, he has adjusted.
he was raw, all potential. again, not blaming Dixon or coaching, just plain bad luck..
And the NBa is right, as he has turned out to be a perfectly fine first rounder.
yes, cant argue that.. like I said, being 7 foot with the talent to walk and chew gum is a much wanted skill set..
He had a bigger impact than you give him credit for just by being a huge, athletic presence in the paint, and who could run the floor like a guard. He was disruptive just by default. Offensively he was just totally raw but with more time and coaching could have developed a basic two-way post game and been a big problem for opponents. Shaquille O'Neal was like that at LSU. Just an atnletic giant who was indefensible once he decekoped a little drop step and reverse pivot. Not saying Adams could have been Shaq but you get the point. Defensively Adams would have been a monster had he stuck around.
Not really fair, but I thought he should have played more in the second half of that season.
Steven Adams was a good player even in college. Jamie will never make a freshman the focal point of the offense though, and rarely does he involve centers a ton offensively. The stats mean almost nothing, Steven made a number of plays at Pitt that most 7 footers just don't even have enough athleticism to dream about doing.
Looks like the last face you'll ever see.He's definitely on the edge of being dirty imo.
In fairness he didn't do a very good job of positioning himself and making himself available to receive the entry pass. He was also clumsy with the ball, lacked back to the basket game and did not have much of a touch around the rim. He was very much still in the learning curve. He would have been special had we been able to hang onto him for 2 more years, but that was never meant to be.
Yeah I agree. He's pretty damn skilled or he wouldn't be starting on one of the best teams in the NBA.
IIRC, one of my biggest complaints was that Dixon didn't find more ways to get him lobs at the basket to avoid having to deal with post moves and exploit his athleticism. Tyson Chandler won't be mistaken for Hakeem ever, but he has been really effective throughout his career on the PnR getting easy lobs. I think Adams could have done that.
And yeah, having him develop at Pitt would be great and I do remember disagreeing with RRTB about it. I confess I'm definitely influenced by my "leave for the pros ASAP" attitude. If you have the option of working on your game in the pros vs college, I support going pro 10/10.
Case in point: McGary had pretty similar numbers to Adams through the season, but had some really big games in the tournament and I'm confident he would have been drafted ahead of Adams. But he came back, got hurt and had some off court issues, now he rides the pine behind Adams and Kanter.
