I know Pitt struggled for a while against Detroit but still ended up winning by double digits. Add to that the lead they had against top 10 Gonzaga at the half(which according to Andy Katz the committee will look at that) it is pretty shocking they haven't even received 1 vote.
Still not 1 measly vote in the polls
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It will come. I've watched a lot of basketball so far this year. We are underrated. Purdue might be the best team in the Big Ten. That's the turn point game.
The voters would not even know Pitt struggled for awhile. We are 1-0 against D1 teams. You would have to be an extreme homer to think any voters would have us jump that high that quick after 1 real game. I know patience isn't your thing, but hang in there. It's one game.
Lets see what happens in the Purdue game. This will tell us if we should be ranked. I think we will!
It's actually not shocking at all that we haven't received a vote seeing as how we have only one full game against a DI opponent. Beat Purdue.
Throwing logic out the window, though, is this not a direct reflection on Jamie Dixon and Pitt's program and how much everybody dislikes us?
Hire Andy Enfield.
It's going to be at least a couple weeks til we get near the top 25. Considering the Gonzaga game was cancelled we've only played 1 game so far against a D1 opponent. A win over one of the worst teams in D2 does nothing no matter how much we beat them by. No reason to think we should be in the top 30 right now and no reason to worry about it in November.
Yeah, we beat Detroit dagnabbit. We should definitely be respected for beating a mid major on our home court. No respect at all.
I am sure he must have usc in the top 10 by now, right? All he was lacking was his "own" players.
Given the last season tailspin and the relative number of questions due to roster changes, I am not surprised that those outside of Pittsburgh are ready to "buy in" on this year's squad. Continue to win, fly under the radar if need be, develop your roster and fine tune your rotation, then start knocking people out in conference play. I agree that a good showing first Purdue (a win by 1 or by 17) will change perception nationally.
If we beat Purdue and are still undefeated when the polls come out the week after that game, we're top 20, give or take a couple spots. Until then, people are being ridiculous thinking we should be ranked. The Gonzaga game has NO bearing at all towards that. If it did, could've been a different story because I think we had a real shot at keeping up the intensity in the second half. As it stands we beat Detroit and probably the worst basketball team in D2. Insane to think we should be getting respect for that. If we were ranked preseason, we would not drop. But considering we weren't, you gotta go out and do something before you jump high in the polls.
Dislike? Not really sure that's the appropriate word-I think the sentiment is more doubt and disillusion. From the outside, this has to look like a program that's lost its way. We've gone from being a contender year in and out in a tougher league to an also ran in a weaker league. Couple that with the built in cynicism arising from our past NCAA performances and you very much have a situation where the burden of proof is on Jamie. He no longer gets the benefit of the doubt from pollsters and writers across the country.
Lol not accurate rankings on my part. But just looking at their record and the players on their team, they are really bad. We've played IUP before, IUP is a much better D2 program than that St. Joe's team we played.
Ok, again, I don't think it matters either way, but I noticed "worst" and wondered where that came from.
Yes, don't disagree with you. Just pointing out that they are a really bad team and even a win by 80 points over them as 1 of our 2 wins would not give us any reason to think we should be ranked this early on. I do however think we will be ranked for a good portion of this year and heading into the NCAA tourney. I think we have a really talented and deep team this season.
If anyone has watched other games this year besides Pitt, our offense is so much further ahead then most teams right now. We know how to pass as a team and score.
Exactly why I think we will be a ranked team once our schedule picks up and why I think we're in for a really good season. I don't think we've ever had an offense this good and we have a really deep bench. I think Damon Wilson this season will be one of the nation's best players off the bench and eventually will be one of the best guards we've ever had. The kid looks like a legit star.
You also "doubted" that the 1st half against Gonzaga we played would be looked at by the committee.
And again, I didn't say that they should be ranked. I do however think it's surprising they did not receive "1 measly vote".
And you are wrong almost every game about everything, so what's the point? You really want to start keeping score? Hint, you would come out on the loser side.
And I still believe, if we are in, we won't get any better seed for a good first half against Gonazaga, and if we are low on the bubble, it won't get us in. They may consider that half a game, but doubt there is much they will do with it when they have a whole body of work of finished games to consider.
If Pitt manages to beat Purdue and has a strong regular season, also assuming how gonzaga performs, it will be interesing if that game has impact for Pitt for seeding purposes. Gonzaga is going to win alot of games this year. I think that game could impact us. I don't think it would impact gonzaga because gonzaga won't have a lot of losses at year end. If Pitt for example is on a fringe 3/4 line, obviously that makes a big difference. I highly doubt we miss the tournament. We are better than a lot of teams including ranked ones, right now. I don't need pomeroy rankings and stats to tell me that. I can just tell the way our team functions and scores on offense in comparison to other teams.
We will not know the answer unless the committee talks about it after. I believe the last two months carry more weight that the first two. It really doesn't matter, take care of the games that DO count, and we won't have to sweat it.
Not sure what else you think I was wrong about. If the only thing you got is a speculative guess about how much value the selection committee will put on a November game, I guess you really stuck it to me then.
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You think way too highly of yourself and honestly, I have tried to be civil with you but it obviously doesn't seem to matter. I even liked 1 of your posts a few weeks back (lord help me)but you still like clockwork, show up to counter anything I write. Your shtick is old and once again asking nicely, just stop responding to me and I will do the same.
I'm not perfect by any means but after witnessing the bantor with you and TiredRam, your whole act makes total sense. I would just prefer if you kept me out of it. Thx.
TiredRam doesn't even post anymore, and that was like three years ago. Just posting about something that old makes you look childish, and confirms my beliefs about your lack of character.
I said you weren't patient, and I think you would have to admit that to be true. But if being called impatient is enough to lead you to post what you did (rather uncivilly, in fact), then you may be a little off or something. A typical 40 year old guy doesn't go to pieces over something like that.
The fact you even mention "liking" one of my posts as if you are trying to be friends or make amends is odd. This isn't junior high face booking. It is a sports message board. I have liked a couple of your posts too, when I agree with them and I think they are either correct or witty. I don't like you at all, and I doubt I would like you in person. In my experience, most professional gamblers are narcissistic and sociopathic a bit. So what. I still take each post individually regardless of who wrote it. I hold no silly childish grudges. Apprarently, you do, as you seem transfixed to something from 3 years ago that didn't even involve you.
I have been pretty civil with you too. You are just frequently wrong, and I point it out. Civilly. I really think you just want a site where you are the only poster, so nobody disagrees with you. You are a grown man, you should be able to handle when people disagree with you. People disagree with me, and I don't start pouting, you take things too hard all the time.
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Do you realize that response wasn't even to you? I was answering delpanther, stop stalking me. Just kidding. You have some strange way of thinking where I only target you. I disagree with joe, pghfan and souf sometimes. Sometimes DT and harve disagree with me. I don't go all to pieces and tell them to put me on ignore. It's part of the functionality of the message board. I really don't know what else to say. If you don't like people disagreeing with you, create your own site or just don't freak out on here all the time over silly things.
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If you don't think Pitt should be ranked, then why do you think they should "get a point"? If you don't think Pitt should be ranked then you wouldn't "give a point" to Pitt, so why do you think that someone else should?
It's at some point during "Feast Week" that I start getting a feel for what "my" top 25 would look like.
So far, I've been pleased with what I've seen from the Panthers thus far, but I'm just not at the point yet where I've seen enough to think they are a top 25 team yet. Maybe top 40.
With that, it certainly doesn't bother me that at least one voter has not yet come to a different, more positive conclusion.
It's a bummer that the Gonzaga game was cancelled. What can you do? Had we even lost that game by 2, we'd likely be getting a vote or two.
Our ranking opportunity is in front of us with Purdue. The Boilermakers are a solid, solid team. Beat them, and I'm sure I'd place Pitt as a top 25 team, and I know other voters will feel the same.
-You guys can pencil me in for Pitt being a Top 25 right now with a mediocre Robinson and Robinson finishing the season the way he is playing right now. Im that confident with the rest of our team and the current field. When we start climbing the rankings, we need a better Robinson. BTW, I would argue Purdue is the best team in the Big Ten right now. Or second best at worst to Michigan State. They are good.
Very possible. We can't complain about the quality of team we got this year in the Big Ten-ACC challenge.
The only game that mattered so far did not even end! Purdue will be our 1st real game and I expect us to beat them. We will have votes this time next week.
Kent State routinely is a top MAC team. They have beat us before. I don't think that's a "fake" game.
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