Swofford on David Glenn

[ThePanthers]

https://accsports.com/acc-news/david-glenn/acc-network-swofford/

Good listen. A few bullet points:

- Easiest spring meetings since the early 2000s. Very happy being national champs in MBB and FB, but are looking forward

- With regard to conference distributions, said it's hard to compare because ACC separately pays out championship and other expenses to teams prior to distribution where other conferences include that in the revenue amounts.

- Said really the only gap right now is with the BIG and SEC and expects the ACCN to close that gap significantly. Said all ACC members were aware of that gap, but also are aware that 2 or 3 years down the road, that gap will be dramatically closed

- Very confident in the distribution and revenue of the ACCN and said they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't create a difference

- No further Raycom games, all will be on ACCN

- Timing of 2019 is not only due to some major renewals for ESPN, but also gives conference and schools time to prepare and be ready right out the gate. Keeps comparing SECN launch and it's success to the BIGN and PACN and the issues they had/are having respectively to launch

- ND talks are just rumors. Both sides are fine with the set up right now. Of course the ACC would accept them in a second, but there is no discussions as ND does not want to change the relationship right now

- Talks about UNC sanctions, but I didn't really listen.

Good stuff. ACC is in a strong position going forward

 

[ThePanthers]

Also notes that there will be "major" MBB and CFB games on the ACC network as well to drive distribution

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

Fake news! UConn and ND actually joined today!

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Pitt's in a solid place now, but man its been a tumultuous 14 years since the BE started imploding. A lot of damage was done.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

https://accsports.com/acc-news/david-glenn/acc-network-swofford/

Good listen. A few bullet points:

- Easiest spring meetings since the early 2000s. Very happy being national champs in MBB and FB, but are looking forward

- With regard to conference distributions, said it's hard to compare because ACC separately pays out championship and other expenses to teams prior to distribution where other conferences include that in the revenue amounts.

- Said really the only gap right now is with the BIG and SEC and expects the ACCN to close that gap significantly. Said all ACC members were aware of that gap, but also are aware that 2 or 3 years down the road, that gap will be dramatically closed

- Very confident in the distribution and revenue of the ACCN and said they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't create a difference

- No further Raycom games, all will be on ACCN

- Timing of 2019 is not only due to some major renewals for ESPN, but also gives conference and schools time to prepare and be ready right out the gate. Keeps comparing SECN launch and it's success to the BIGN and PACN and the issues they had/are having respectively to launch

- ND talks are just rumors. Both sides are fine with the set up right now. Of course the ACC would accept them in a second, but there is no discussions as ND does not want to change the relationship right now

- Talks about UNC sanctions, but I didn't really listen.

Good stuff. ACC is in a strong position going forward

So pretty much, not really anything newsworthy which I guess is good because the ACC is pretty stable

- network in 2 years

- revenue on par with P12, B12

- revenue gap will be closed somewhat with ACC, B10

- State of NC won't discriminate as much as they were before so conference championships back to NC

- 8+1 decided

Besides further expansionapocalypse talk and ND joining rumors, there's no big news left......well besides favorite message board game:

Realign the ACC divisions!

Here's my shot at it

Metro Division
BC
Syr
Pitt
Lou
GT
FSU
Miami

Founders Divison
UVa
VT
UNC
Duke
NCSU
Wake
Clemson

The Metro has the newest 7 of the 8 newest ACC teams. Its the 4 northern-most schools and 3 southern-most. All in urban areas (if you count Syr and Tallahassee as urban) but even if not FSU and Syr have good markets in NYC, Orl, Tampa, and Miami.

The Founders Division has 6 of the founding teams that are kept together for rivalry purposes. Obviously VT isn't a founding member but for geographical and rivalry reasons, they are in it. If you take away VT and put in Maryland and South Carolina, that was the original ACC. I never liked not having a divisonal identity and to this day I sometimes forget if our division is called the Atlantic or Coastal. I would bet 99% of diehard college football fans couldn't tell the 2 divisons apart based on name.

You play 6 divisional games and 2 crossovers with no permanent rival. The only drawback is you lose FSU/Clemson but you may gain it as a championship game. In a 14 year period, FSU/Clemson goes from 14 to 4. However, Clemson vs Pitt, FSU vs VT, FSU vs UNC, etc go from 2 in 14 years to 4 in 14 years. FSU would get their closest opponent GT every year. Clemson would get UNC every year, VT/Clem every year could be big, and Duke/NC State is back every year

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Pitt's in a solid place now, but man its been a tumultuous 14 years since the BE started imploding. A lot of damage was done.

Yeah we are in the right place. But basketball worries me. We are not in a Hoops area for talent and interest and have fallen faster and as far a Boston College. The only thing that I think helps us is we do not have an NBA team.

Football wise, we are in such a better place. But......we still have a stadium issue (too big too yellow) with our fan base that will always be a weight holding us down.

 

[FieldHouse12]

I have seen many, many realignment scenarios but I like SMF's as much as any.
Looks good to me if they have to mix it up but I see no reason to switch now.

LOVE that there are no more Raycon games.
Having cut the cord , makes life alot easier with games only on ACCN and ESPN. WatchESPN app is awesome.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"ThePanthers, post: 1909721, member: 3098"]https://accsports.com/acc-news/david-glenn/acc-network-swofford/

Good listen. A few bullet points:

- Easiest spring meetings since the early 2000s. Very happy being national champs in MBB and FB, but are looking forward

- With regard to conference distributions, said it's hard to compare because ACC separately pays out championship and other expenses to teams prior to distribution where other conferences include that in the revenue amounts.

- Said really the only gap right now is with the BIG and SEC and expects the ACCN to close that gap significantly. Said all ACC members were aware of that gap, but also are aware that 2 or 3 years down the road, that gap will be dramatically closed

- Very confident in the distribution and revenue of the ACCN and said they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't create a difference

- No further Raycom games, all will be on ACCN

- Timing of 2019 is not only due to some major renewals for ESPN, but also gives conference and schools time to prepare and be ready right out the gate. Keeps comparing SECN launch and it's success to the BIGN and PACN and the issues they had/are having respectively to launch

- ND talks are just rumors. Both sides are fine with the set up right now. Of course the ACC would accept them in a second, but there is no discussions as ND does not want to change the relationship right now

- Talks about UNC sanctions, but I didn't really listen.

Good stuff. ACC is in a strong position going forward

 

[wbrpanther]

https://accsports.com/acc-news/david-glenn/acc-network-swofford/

Good listen. A few bullet points:

- Easiest spring meetings since the early 2000s. Very happy being national champs in MBB and FB, but are looking forward

- With regard to conference distributions, said it's hard to compare because ACC separately pays out championship and other expenses to teams prior to distribution where other conferences include that in the revenue amounts.

- Said really the only gap right now is with the BIG and SEC and expects the ACCN to close that gap significantly. Said all ACC members were aware of that gap, but also are aware that 2 or 3 years down the road, that gap will be dramatically closed

- Very confident in the distribution and revenue of the ACCN and said they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't create a difference

- No further Raycom games, all will be on ACCN

- Timing of 2019 is not only due to some major renewals for ESPN, but also gives conference and schools time to prepare and be ready right out the gate. Keeps comparing SECN launch and it's success to the BIGN and PACN and the issues they had/are having respectively to launch

- ND talks are just rumors. Both sides are fine with the set up right now. Of course the ACC would accept them in a second, but there is no discussions as ND does not want to change the relationship right now

- Talks about UNC sanctions, but I didn't really listen.

Good stuff. ACC is in a strong position going forward

I would have liked to hear him comment on the UNC block Pitt put on Cam Johnson and if there is an ACC rule of any kind on this. Also on why Bilas thinks this block is a federal crime but UNC's cheating not so much.

 

[Swervin27]

im surprised acc isn't pushing harder to get Clemson and fsu in different divisions. this annual showdown in mid season is fun and all but should be played in conference championship. neither are going anywhere as far as powers..

having the acc conference decided in late October is not great for the conference.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

im surprised acc isn't pushing harder to get Clemson and fsu in different divisions. this annual showdown in mid season is fun and all but should be played in conference championship. neither are going anywhere as far as powers..

having the acc conference decided in late October is not great for the conference.

Well they thought that Miami and Va Tech would be the Clemson/FSU and focused on that FSU/Miami champ game that has never materialized. At least so far.

 

[ThePanthers]

im surprised acc isn't pushing harder to get Clemson and fsu in different divisions. this annual showdown in mid season is fun and all but should be played in conference championship. neither are going anywhere as far as powers..

having the acc conference decided in late October is not great for the conference.

The hope is Miami and VT can be the Clemson/FSU of the Coastal. Things are cyclical.

 

[Swervin27]

The hope is Miami and VT can be the Clemson/FSU of the Coastal. Things are cyclical.

its quite a long cycle.. va tech and Miami are hell and gone from being fsu and Clemson. Miami could, if all things break the right way, could be a top 10 program again. va tech isn't getting back there anytime in the next decade or two. they had their window of national glory.

 

[Jpripper88]

its quite a long cycle.. va tech and Miami are hell and gone from being fsu and Clemson. Miami could, if all things break the right way, could be a top 10 program again. va tech isn't getting back there anytime in the next decade or two. they had their window of national glory.

They were pretty good last year and I think found a pretty darn good coach to replace Beamer. I wouldn't write them off. I don't think they have the potential of FSU or even Miami, but I won't be surprised if they the #2 most successful team in the ACC over the next 10 years.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

im surprised acc isn't pushing harder to get Clemson and fsu in different divisions. this annual showdown in mid season is fun and all but should be played in conference championship. neither are going anywhere as far as powers..

having the acc conference decided in late October is not great for the conference.

The hope is Miami and VT can be the Clemson/FSU of the Coastal. Things are cyclical.

Yes that was the thought and is now the hope. However, couldn't Miami/FSU and Clemson/VT be the Miami/VT and FSU/Clemson? Losing the October FSU/Clemson game would suck but that's literally the only reason to keep the divisions the way they are.

 

[topdecktiger]

im surprised acc isn't pushing harder to get Clemson and fsu in different divisions. this annual showdown in mid season is fun and all but should be played in conference championship. neither are going anywhere as far as powers..

having the acc conference decided in late October is not great for the conference.

Yes that was the thought and is now the hope. However, couldn't Miami/FSU and Clemson/VT be the Miami/VT and FSU/Clemson? Losing the October FSU/Clemson game would suck but that's literally the only reason to keep the divisions the way they are.

A similar discussion came up a couple of years ago about the divisional alignment. The divisions aren't changing. The divisions are aligned the way they are for specific reasons, and it's not because of Clemson/Florida St. For one, Miami and Florida St wanted it that way. Two, there are too many rivalry games that would be dropped, and too many teams would bitch.

Along with that, Clemson and Florida St in the title game is the absolute last thing you want to do.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

VT has the Strongest Program with all facilities on Campus and Big Student Body with Alumni Attendance in the Coastal. Miami will always have the Best Recruiting due to such Talent all around them within the City of Miami itself, they are what Pitt was in 1970s-80s and smaller Urban Private School.

Still, TCU, Baylor, NWU, UCLA, Stanford, Vandy all proved Teams and Programs can be built into Top 25 Status with the Right People in Chancellors-Presidents, Coaches, Athletic Directors, Sponsors and Boosters! This includes Pitt, GT, Duke, Virginia, and UNC as well with money coming in from ACC & ACCN football.