LMAO. Consistent 9 or 10 win team year in & out? That's absurd.
BTW, how's Deion doing at Colorado?
Pitt is what Pitt is
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BTW, how's Deion doing at Colorado?
JMU didn't win the Sun Belt. They weren't even eligible to play in the Conference Championship.
The Narduzzi comments are just ridiculous.
I am not advocating the firing of Narduzzi but keeping him also will not end the mediocrity. 10 years has proven that. Replacing him with the best possible candidate will yield worst, better or the same results. At least there is a chance for better. The question is whether the new powers that be are satisfied maintaining the status quo.
I don’t know what part NIL played in the kids that came to Indiana this last off season but I read they had 30 transfers come in. Doubt it was all because of the opportunity to play for the good Cignetti. Money talks in all things, especially is days.
NIL isn’t controlled by Pitt or others by definition
So i’m looking a reported expenses
He had a bunch of d2 and low major transfers
Folks pretending Cignetti bought a team are idiots , including the senator
That's a HUGE assumption on your part. There is absolutely a chance, and a very good one, that Pitt will do worse.
There is no coaching change that can be made to end the mediocrity at Pitt. There is only one way possible to break that cycle. Start bringing in elite recruiting classes - both HS & portal talent. Recruiting has to be on par with Miami, Alabama, Georgia, tOSU, Oregon, Texas, etc.
If you can't even get your talent level on par with those schools, then you're only in the sport for shits & giggles and to take pride in some level of mediocrity. Pitt doesn't seem to have a donor base that is interested in making that happen.
That’s why our coaches are well compensated.
That’s on them .
Otherwise - fire them and buy cheap staff and funnel those
Millions into nil
Flush with cash and aligned with NIL, Indiana has tools to sustain Curt Cignetti's turnaround vision
The head of Indiana's NIL arm says Cignetti is exactly what the program needed -- an 'acceptable version of Bobby Knight'
www.cbssports.com
Guess it depends how you define location. Location is good in that we are in the middle of a pretty good recruiting footprint. Plus you have the closeness to the Steelers.
Location is bad in that you have PSU 3 hours to the east and OSU 3 hours to the west and WVU 90 minutes to the south. Plus the allure of ND who has always recruited this area.
But I think you probably mean location in that we can't have an on-campus stadium due to space & political constraints and have to play in a stadium that is too big for our needs which emphasizes this with hideous bright yellow seats.
Now you're just being ridiculous. If you want a competitive program, you shouldn't go cheap with either. It used to be on them. It's really not been that way for a long time.
The boosters that matter at Pitt probably love Narduzzi. He delivers competitive teams with a NIL budget that's in the bottom half of the league. They get reasonably competitive football on the cheap.
Coaches are well compensated everywhere. It's because guys like Jimmy Sexton know how to play boosters and administrators.
Flush with cash and aligned with NIL, Indiana has tools to sustain Curt Cignetti's turnaround vision
The head of Indiana's NIL arm says Cignetti is exactly what the program needed -- an 'acceptable version of Bobby Knight'
I thought you weren’t allowed to donate if you have mediocre results on the field for 40 plus years.
Why would you have these expectations….in most of the seasons during his tenure Narduzzi’s teams have played sloppy and undisciplined FB. What we have seen the last month isn’t anything new. Details aren’t his thing. That’s how you lose on average 5 games per year. Of course, the clown show we saw last Saturday was a new low even for him.
No. Your response is the only thing that is dumb.
Tell us how it ends Pitt's 40 year run of mediocrity.
Another dumb response.
Who is 'a real head coach"? Give us names.
Coaches aren't magicians. No coach wins without superior talent. Pitt isn't a school that can win a national title.
No. I meant numbers 1 and 2. I don’t think the city location playing second fiddle to the Steelers is as good for business as advertised. Then you throw in point two.
Those are my expectations of any coach. Not just Duzz. I didn't say he has been that way in the past or that I anticipate him changing...I agree his track record suggests otherwise.
He could hire an associate head coach to handle game management and take care of those thing...and he really should tbh.
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The take you responded to was a garbage take.
Pitt was double digit underdogs to a program with considerably more resources, support, and talent. They hung with them to the last minute. And yes, Pitt was their own worst enemy at crucial times. It's hard to win games when you have first & goal at the 2 and end up settling for a FG. There were a lot of guys on the field that normally aren't and the young OC, that's actually given the offense a pulse this year, had an ugly series.
For the haters to come crawling out crying about coaching & sloppy play, not in the context of criticism, but in the context of their hatred of Narduzzi is both comical and predictable.
Another profoundly stupid post trying to rationalize away sloppy, undisciplined play…the game spread doesn’t justify a coaching staff blowing a game, which they did. Nor do claims that a program is mediocre and always will be so…..your constant whining message.
The sloppy, undisciplined play has been a hallmark of Narduzzi’s teams…just look at where they have ranked in penalties over his tenure. Are you going to justify this too with your view that Pitt is destined to be mediocre into eternity? What do program limitations have to do with making mistakes repeatedly on the field? Can”t find a punter…let’s blame that too on Pitt’s inherent program limitations.
People don’t hate Narduzzi separate and apart from the mediocre results he has delivered. Your assertion to the contrary is just a weak attempt to divert attention from what he has done and what his teams have delivered. Your arguments are absolutely laughable….and you’ll just respond with more whining about Pitt’s inherent limitations. Who are they going to hire…who wants to coach at Pitt….Pitt fans are cheap, and on and on. A HC can go to Indiana and achieve what Narduzzi couldn’t deliver in a lifetime if given the opportunity. If you were a detective you couldn’t figure out who the killer was if had a photograph with the culprit holding a gun over the victim!
The "good" Cignetti comes across as very arrogant. This is just my guess but I imagine karma says he's due for some humble pie. I don't think it will be a Mel Tucker level flameout, but I don't see him having a team consistently ranked in the top ten over next few years. Plus given his brother, I'm not convinced he is god's gift to leading an offense for a college football team.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my guess.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my guess.
Narduzzi has beaten more Top 25 teams at Pitt than Curt Cignetti will in his entire coaching career. And as of today, Cignetti hasn't won shit at IU. Narduzzi has won a Conference Championship. Cignetti hasn't, and he never will at Indiana. The reason Cignetti won't win a conference championship at Indiana is either because Indiana is a mediocre program with inherent limitations, or Cignetti's coaching just isn't up to winning a conference championship at a P4 level. I'll let you tell me which one it is.
Cignetti has created more positive pub for Indiana in a single year than what Narduzzi has generated in a decade.
Their fanbase recognized the importance of maintaining him and investing in the he program before the season ended .
Has anything remotely like that Happened the past decade at Pitt?!
yep, when has ever giving a coach a massive raise/extension when no one else is bidding for him ever gone wrong? Especially when his first season isn't even complete
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You guys don’t want boosters investing and paying for the program , after all ?!?
Can’t keep up with these inconsistencies
You guys don’t want boosters investing and paying for the program , after all ?!?
Can’t keep up with these inconsistencies
Investing and paying for the program is a good thing.
They locked down a coach they believe in. Good on IU. It isn't going to help anything unless they also spend money on the roster to keep up with tOSU, Oregon, PSU, Michigan etc.
Yes. I'm all for investing in the program.
That’s what Indiana also did
Read the article above
I’ll ask again - why is that such a challenge here ?
Nobody is excited by Narduzzi . He mostly tread water
Colorado was a wasteland before Deon. The pay him 22 mill, and the increase in tickets, donations, merchandise equals 275 +/- million.
Cignetti, from the article in this thread has experienced an enormous revenue raise.
Even Bill O Brien at BC, in a job worse than Pitt, has seen financial commitment from the college with higher donations.
The argument that Narduzzi is safe because his buyout is prohibitive is not a strong enough argument to keep him. Apathy has absolutely sunk into this program and isnt going away as long as he is here.
Cignetti, from the article in this thread has experienced an enormous revenue raise.
Even Bill O Brien at BC, in a job worse than Pitt, has seen financial commitment from the college with higher donations.
The argument that Narduzzi is safe because his buyout is prohibitive is not a strong enough argument to keep him. Apathy has absolutely sunk into this program and isnt going away as long as he is here.
