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Temple New Stadium; Beaver Stadium Renovations or rebuild.....

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"A sellout in the home finale against Michigan on Nov. 21 would push the average close to 100,000. Factors such as five consecutive home games, and rain for three of them, contributed to the slight decline."

Since when does having five consecutive home games - played during the warmer part of the season - become a negative? And given that the Nits want as many home games as possible, does that mean that less and less fans will attend if they increase the number of home games? :rolleyes:
 
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Five consecutive home games becomes a negative because it can be tough for families or just parents to devote every Saturday to games for over a month. Then couple that with PSU not looking good early in the year and it is a bad formula.
 
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Joe the Panther Fan said:
You really don't understand why that would be a negative for some people?
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My point is that the Nits can't have it both ways. They can't keep wanting more and more home games, and then expect that they won't have stretches when a bunch of their games are gonna be consecutive.
 
Panther Parrothead said:
My point is that the Nits can't have it both ways. They can't keep wanting more and more home games, and then expect that they won't have stretches when a bunch of their games are gonna be consecutive.
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They play 7 home games this year just like Pitt and 99% of p5 schools. If they had 8 home games you might have a point.
 
PSU_Nut said:
They play 7 home games this year just like Pitt and 99% of p5 schools. If they had 8 home games you might have a point.
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7 home games and 2 neutral site games in Philly and Baltimore. Only 3 true road games for PSU this year.
 
If you're traveling in for a Penn State game and have to stay overnight, it's a ridiculously expensive weekend. Hotels in and around State College are raping customers ($299-$499/night, with a 2 night minimum stay). Figure in ticket prices (which are much higher than Pitt's), food, gas, etc., and a crap schedule, and it's easy to understand why attendance there is down. Plus, Beaver Stadium, by 2015 standards, is a craphole. Wifi stinks, if there's any at all, concessions are threadbare, restrooms are nasty, parking blows, they've doubled the RV fees from last year (to park among cow patties), egress is limited, unless you're a 6 yr. old, weighing 45 pounds, you're shoehorned into your bleacher seat. No wonder attendance is down. And, there's no way in hell they're averaging 98K this year...maybe 80K...maybe...
 
The hotel gouging thing happens in every smallish college town. If you think its bad in St. College, it is worse in South Bend. I used to spend weeks in South Bend for work and always had to scramble to find accommodations (usually very far away) on gameday weekends.
 
CaptainMurphy said:
The hotel gouging thing happens in every smallish college town. If you think its bad in St. College, it is worse in South Bend. I used to spend weeks in South Bend for work and always had to scramble to find accommodations (usually very far away) on gameday weekends.
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Captain, I'm sure it is. Thankfully, hotels around Durham apparently haven't gotten that message yet regarding next weekend, lol.
 
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MartyInLawrenceville said:
Captain, I'm sure it is. Thankfully, hotels around Durham apparently haven't gotten that message yet regarding next weekend, lol.
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Yes, I shouldn't say "every" town. Just the bigger P5 schools.

State College hotels get an extra boost given there are no hotels (no civilization, for that matter) anywhere in the vicinity. If you want to save money, you probably have to stay an hour plus away in Altoona or Williamsport (they may even raise prices in those towns).
 
As for the Penn State/Temple stadiums leading to a new Pitt Stadium, we can't connect those dots anymore. The days of taxpayers footing the majority of the bill for new sporting venues is done, at least for now, considering the budget woes we are seeing at both the state and federal level. That is why Temple is discussing a 100 million stadium and why PSU is gauging fan interest (aka donor money) to re-do their stadium.
 
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Kind of long but here are some historical observations about PSU fan attendance. Since I spent so many years working in the stadium, I feel pretty qualified to write this...

1. Weather causes a problem with attendance only when they limit parking in the pastures. Since tailgating is the main reason why so many show up, if you can't tailgate, why bother.

2. Fans are genuinely ticked about the STEP program. Beyond that, PSU is jamming them at every turn with very aggressive fundraising. Parking passes are expensive and for some, where you park is a really big deal to many (status) and if your party is big enough, you may be buying four or more spots.

3. The home schedule early is the year was a big joke. Couple that with the fact that they have struggled to beat some bad teams (not Temple). Things like weather and frustration have only made it worse.

4. Hotels are used by the wealthy, visitors, or the stupid. Otherwise, I'm not aware of too many that actually stay in a hotel in State College that see money as a problem. Costs are actually closer to $800 for some of the nicer places out along I-99. More likely to stay in Altoona, for instance. Most have adapted by purchasing or renting cabins in the nearby mountains if they feel they have to stay in the area or they are part of the camper crowd that start rolling in on Fridays.

5. Most have just taken what has been dished out to them for years and are only now starting to question why they've put up with smaller seats, worse parking, and paying more for less at every turn. A lot of guys I know are bitterly frustrated but have only responded by moving their seats to areas that aren't as expensive. Couple have questioned what will happen if capacity is limited and if they'll even be able to afford season tickets.

6. Many of these guys are bitter. Really bitter. They hate the BOT, aren't thrilled with the new administration, don't really understand their AD, and they have a coach they don't have a ton of faith in because he's tough to swallow. They also don't care for the way the B1G treats them and then there's the NCAA and all of the "pedo" jokes they have to hear. It doesn't take a whole lot to tick them off and are starting to get unsettled despite the fact that the program isn't in any worse shape than it was when Joe was still there.

This isn't meant as a criticism. Just what I see.
 
Dan, good observations. I've been way up in the upper deck there, ant those bleachers are so narrow, with room for about a cheek and a half. And I'm not that big of a guy.
 
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Panther Parrothead said:
This quote from the article:

"A sellout in the home finale against Michigan on Nov. 21 would push the average close to 100,000. Factors such as five consecutive home games, and rain for three of them, contributed to the slight decline."

Since when does having five consecutive home games - played during the warmer part of the season - become a negative? And given that the Nits want as many home games as possible, does that mean that less and less fans will attend if they increase the number of home games? :rolleyes:
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I'd say the opponents for those 5 games had more to so with it.
 
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