Terrell Brown
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There was a rumor started some time ago that he had transferred out. However, that was someone trying to cause excitement by linking to news of a transfer of a different player named Terrel Brown at another school--it was not Pitt's Terrel Brown.
Terrel is still listed on the Pitt official site roster and expected to play.
Speculation:
Initially, IMHO, Terrel starts and get the most minutes in the interior because of his experience.
Since many Pitt fans have been disappointed with what Terrel seems capable of achieving in ACC play, IMHO, they hope he will be getting fewer minutes as the season progresses and a freshman (e.g., John Hugley) gains experience at the college level. Many (most?) are hoping that this will not only happen; but, happen very early.
Terrel is still listed on the Pitt official site roster and expected to play.
Speculation:
Initially, IMHO, Terrel starts and get the most minutes in the interior because of his experience.
Since many Pitt fans have been disappointed with what Terrel seems capable of achieving in ACC play, IMHO, they hope he will be getting fewer minutes as the season progresses and a freshman (e.g., John Hugley) gains experience at the college level. Many (most?) are hoping that this will not only happen; but, happen very early.
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He’s probably going to start, but I think it’s a situation where it’d be great if one of the freshmen is able to pass him in minutes sooner rather than later.
Brown has been unfairly maligned IMO. He’s essentially been our only big for the past 3 years who could even reasonably compete in the ACC. He’s just been over exposed with no help in the post.
Hopefully the new guys can help and TB is more like a 20 mins 7 pts, 5 boards 1.5 blocks kind of player .
He's going to play a lot of minutes to start, undoubtedly. While Hugley and Amadasun are promising, this is an awfully tough conference for a freshman big man. Brown is also our only senior (unless Nike gets a waiver) so it's good to have experience out there.
This is a good recruiting class and Hugley is going to be a good player. But being a difference maker as a freshman in the ACC takes a ton of natural ability. And while Brown is not going to light the world on fire, he's not a stiff. Expecting Hugley to take over the starting role before the new year is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
This is a good recruiting class and Hugley is going to be a good player. But being a difference maker as a freshman in the ACC takes a ton of natural ability. And while Brown is not going to light the world on fire, he's not a stiff. Expecting Hugley to take over the starting role before the new year is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Yep. Not a chance that happens. Especially with limited practices, limited workouts and limited preseason. You can’t throw him into the mix against ACC bigs As a starter. You just can’t
Lots of wishful thinking by Pitt fans who are impatient for a team that makes the NCAAs. They know that if Pitt doesn’t get better big man performance from someone that is better than most believe Terrell Brown can be that the NCAAs can’t happen this coming season.
Coulibaly makes the often mentioned Great Leap Forward.
He plays the majority of minutes and averages 11 and 5.
If that happens it may be the greatest one year leap we’ve seen.
I see Coulibaly more as a scorer right now and we really need rebounding. So I would want Hugley over Coulibaly as he seems like a more natural rebounder. Still, even if Brown flatlines in the offseason I don't see us having a superioer option.
Certainly that is the most likely option to start the season. But we all can hope that by February one or more younger options catch up and pass him by. Just have to wait and see.
The problem is brown is a poor rebounder
Perhaps what we could see by, say, mid-January is a change from almost entirely playing 1 big and 4 guards/wings to a style of play more often (but not exclusively) playing 2 bigs and 3 guards/wings?
This will depend on whether Capel is wedded to the 1-4 arrangement "philosphically" as some Pitt fans believe or whether he used it the last couple of seasons due to having so few big men.
Even if Capel is not philosophically wedded to the 1-4 arrangement, playing a 2-3 arrangement more often also would depend on whether the group of Hugley, Coulibaly, Collier and Amadasun can be effective enough to make such a change desirable.
In any event, it is likely that we now have too many bigs on the roster to stay exclusively 1-4 for as many minutes as in the past and still find enough playing time for our increased number of guys 6-8 and taller.
It should be interesting to see what Capel actually does do with such a changed roster makeup--something to look forward to and debate over.
This will depend on whether Capel is wedded to the 1-4 arrangement "philosphically" as some Pitt fans believe or whether he used it the last couple of seasons due to having so few big men.
Even if Capel is not philosophically wedded to the 1-4 arrangement, playing a 2-3 arrangement more often also would depend on whether the group of Hugley, Coulibaly, Collier and Amadasun can be effective enough to make such a change desirable.
In any event, it is likely that we now have too many bigs on the roster to stay exclusively 1-4 for as many minutes as in the past and still find enough playing time for our increased number of guys 6-8 and taller.
It should be interesting to see what Capel actually does do with such a changed roster makeup--something to look forward to and debate over.
We have like 45 wings on the team. I can’t imagine we ever change from a 4 out 1 in.
Amadasun will not help us this year. And maybe not next year. He’s simply not ready for the ACC.
Subbing out the strength of our team for another subpar big men would be almost a fireable offense
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....Yeah. He's good on defense but you're right his rebounding can be frustrating given his size.
He has no clue how to read the shot and next to never gets inside position
Indeed it would be. A more likely leap is something like 4 and 3 a game to around 6 and 4 if he REALLY takes a leap forward. 11 and 5 is simply not going to happen. Not this coming year, anyway.
Unfortunately, with McGowen's gone, Sibande probably not eligible and Odukale recovering from his scooter accident broken arm, Capel may not be as well set to stick with a 1-4 exclusively as he might otherwise have been.
That could also be a contributing factor if we see more 2-3 and less 1-4 minutes of PT than last season.
Personally hoping that Collier turns out to be this season's surprise like Champagnie was last year. Were that to happen, Capel would have the option to play a 1-4 some of the time with one of the 4 being a true 6-8 guy which could help our relatively weak rebounding to improve.
Overall, whatever happens, Capel has more options. especially to go bigger if/when needed, in his tool box with this roster than he had the last two years.
I doubt men's hoops players at Pitt or elsewhere in major conferences take tha extra year of eligibility as most will elect to go pro overseas and make some money instead.
Also, I am of the belief that the NCAA could rescind their extra year of eligibility decison for men's hoops if the college basketball season plays out well and Covid doesn't prevent an NCAA tourney in the spring.
Also, I am of the belief that the NCAA could rescind their extra year of eligibility decison for men's hoops if the college basketball season plays out well and Covid doesn't prevent an NCAA tourney in the spring.
Terrell starts and get the most minutes in the interior because of his defense (he has 156 blocks 4th most at Pitt)! And may end up 2nd all-time behind Charles Smith (career leader)!
There is no way, and I mean that literally, that they will rescind this ruling sometime after the season ends.
If for no other reason than it would only take about 13 minutes for the first lawsuit to be filed, one which the NCAA would have no chance to win.
I could see TB having a pretty decent year, especially if the other bigs are pushing him. Possibly even get him to play with more fire. Weak hands and lackluster effort have been his issues IMO.
Maybe modify it during the season to apply only to any players who have decided to "opt-out?"
But you are liklely right that they won't do anything due to legal liability.
However, even if they don't make a change it is going to be a rule without any real effect, IMHO, since the season is
probably going to go pretty well to very well and most players good enough for starters minutes on a major team will choose to turn pro somewhere after their 4th playing year rather than play a 5th year of college ball.
It will be interesting to see if a lack of support and competition from other big men was really Brown's biggest problem. I'm doubtful, but open-minded.
There is a lot of room between ACC starter good - and overseas paid pro good IMO...
There is no way that once the season starts they are going to change the eligibility rules to make them more strict. They just aren't. Because it would be stupid and they would lose the inevitable lawsuit. If they change the eligibility rules in the middle of a season it can only work if they make the rules more lenient, not more strict.
Don‘t disagree. Just wishful thinking because I think it was a dumb decision in the first instance to not limit it to those players who want to opt out. If the whole season were to “blow up” they could always make the call later when things became certain.
IMHO, just another example of what has morphed into what is now become an over reaction to Covid. Now that we know so much more about the very limited portion of the population for which it has a serious risk (people with co-morbidites) and how much better to treat even those people, it doesn’t appear necessary to continue to treat young and healthy athletes as if it is any more of a risk for them than many other things the young are at risk for that we accept and ignore every day. We can adequately protect those at risk with co-morbidities (mostly the elderly) without worrying so much about young healthy college athletes getting it and spreading primarily among themselves. IMHO, just test them regularly (daily if needed) while on campus and don’t send them home on the holidays to grandma/grandpa with a positive Covid test and all will be well because then they will pose a lesser risk that all the other students on campus will.
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