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Thank you, Barry Alvarez

For hiring the wrong guy.

He was not the "wrong" guy for them, a safe pick and a bit of a Pitt taking Wanny thing, getting a homeboy back.

I doubt he will get them where their sensibilities are now set, but he will not leave and probably win 8-9 games a year with the over rated Big 10 slate.

I think the person to thank is Anderson for jumping ship and setting the dominoes in action.
 
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I don't wish him the best. He came to Pitt to leave Pitt, and Alvarez was complicit in it. Pitt has the right guy now. They need to do everything possible to keep him.

This wasn't a todd graham case. Who here wouldn't leave their jobs if it meant being able to go home? I would
 
For hiring the wrong guy.
Paul Chryst once again has his Team playing to less expectations later in the season and losing the close losses, and his mediocre record at Pitt is now a memory compared to Narduzzi's change of attitude, becomo9ng complete Teams, beating Great Coaches, and having the Players improving every game and not quitting!

Chryst belongs in Wisconsin and no one wanted him anywhere else except when Pitt had Pederson Poisons and could not attract any Great Coach? As Jerry Dipaola wrote on Friday, Pit now has a Athletic Director that listens to his Football Coach.

It started with Chancellor Gallagher's Vision of bringing back Pitt Football & Script and then finding people at Pitt that attracted Pat Narduzzi to Pitt that wanted to come to Pitt, and picked his Staff in weeks not months like Chryst before him???

Then and only then, did Pitt put priorities into perspective and took months to search and hire an Athletic Director showing that position was less important as the coaches selected and hired an Athletic Directot that listens to his Coaches, Fans, and Alumni instead of taking care of himself, his ego, and buyouts?

Pitt Gallagher erased years of Pederson's Personal Mediocre Poison and Narduzzi and Barnes are slowly giving the transfusion to Pitt Athletics under the smart care of Dr. Gallagher!


Godspeed Coach Chryst as you abandon the Pitt Program and Players while Coach Pat embraced them, the University and Program in his his Character of Coaching by wanting to be at Pitt?

 
I don't wish him the best. He came to Pitt to leave Pitt, and Alvarez was complicit in it. Pitt has the right guy now. They need to do everything possible to keep him.
Ditto, his losing late in the season, poaching Pitt Recruits, and close losses his his Hallmark of Shame and once Alvarez goes, Chryst will soon follow. he is a Good OC but not Great Head Coach!
 
Thank you, Captain. I couldn't have said it nearly as well. How many points did Pitt give up to Duke during Chryst's years as coach? I couldn't bear to watch Pitt get bullied by Duke one more time. For the first time in a long time, I feel good about Pitt football.
 
He was not the "wrong" guy for them, a safe pick and a bit of a Pitt taking Wanny thing, getting a homeboy back.

I doubt he will get them where their sensibilities are now set, but he will not leave and probably win 8-9 games a year with the over rated Big 10 slate.

I think the person to thank is Anderson for jumping ship and setting the dominoes in action.
I disagree with respect to your posts, Bilema left Alvarez without notice, and Andersen took over winning at Wisky because the program is set up for any Coach to win, because Alvarez still runs it his way, and Coaches are just his way of not putting in 18 Hour Days, and this why Andersen also left Alvarez without notice, for Oregon State where he has just 2 Wins now, as Oregon State Coach ended up at Nebraska to correct Pederson's Poison selfish poison there too?

Alvarez runs Wisky Program his way but has Great Coaching experience and deserves much credit in building a Great Program at Wisky as Coach & Athletic Director as a Pittsburgh Native and Nebraskan Alumnus.

Yet, he bailed out Nebraska's Alumnus Pederson after he lied about Wannstedt firing, Miss-hired Haywood & Graham, and then gave him Chryst that nobody wanted and needed tutoring on Pitt Dime??? It was never about helping Pitt Football, but far more taking care of Nebraska's Alumni and Wisconsin Football and using Pitt to do it?

Selfish People sooner or later get exposed and Pederson and Alvarez made their own beds and time for them to live with it and Pitt has better days ahead to create sweet memories, and forget about them and the nightmares they brought to Pitt for their selfish purposes?

Alvarez brought this on himself and Pitt Gallagher corrected it!
 
UW hasn't beat a team with a winning record while playing one of the weakest schedules of the P5 schools. Their fan base is starting to figure out he's not a very good head coach nor has this been a good year.

Wisconsin has had a good year. I wish paul the best. But thank you Barry indeed
 
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He was not the "wrong" guy for them, a safe pick and a bit of a Pitt taking Wanny thing, getting a homeboy back.

I doubt he will get them where their sensibilities are now set, but he will not leave and probably win 8-9 games a year with the over rated Big 10 slate.

I think the person to thank is Anderson for jumping ship and setting the dominoes in action.

Over rated? The ACC has zero blue bloods, and only 2 teams that win regularly. It will be 3 if you guys keep winning. So don't go all kettle on the folks.

The west division is a huge opportunity for a couple schools. Make a habit of getting to represent their side in the CCG, and the recruits will keep flowing. I thought Minny would be in the running, but with Kill gone, I don't know. That leaves Neb, NW, Iowa, and Wiscy. At least 2 of those teams should really grow in the coming years. The B1G should probably throw Md over there, and give them a chance to grow. The better they do, the more UA money.
 
He seemed a stand up guy I have no ill will towards him but it was fairly obvious he wasn't gonna be a game changer here. I seem him doing fine there and definitely not going to embarrass them and more importantly get along with Barry.
 
Yeah, overrated. The B1G this year is all about fattening up their wins on a bunch of crap teams. Going into the last weekend of the season 1, count'em 1 B1G team has a top 25 SoS (MSU @24). Iowa is the 3rd best team Pitt has played this year and at best is a top 25 team (about the same as Pitt) but playing a terrible schedule and some luck along the way has them in the top 10.

Ot- Harbaugh is great coach for a psychotic person and will have UM killing the B1G in short order.

Over rated? The ACC has zero blue bloods, and only 2 teams that win regularly. It will be 3 if you guys keep winning. So don't go all kettle on the folks.

The west division is a huge opportunity for a couple schools. Make a habit of getting to represent their side in the CCG, and the recruits will keep flowing. I thought Minny would be in the running, but with Kill gone, I don't know. That leaves Neb, NW, Iowa, and Wiscy. At least 2 of those teams should really grow in the coming years. The B1G should probably throw Md over there, and give them a chance to grow. The better they do, the more UA money.
 
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I think Barry takes Paul for an "early season" ice fishing trip if you know what I mean.
Its not what Barry expected in my opinion.
 
Over rated? The ACC has zero blue bloods, and only 2 teams that win regularly. It will be 3 if you guys keep winning. So don't go all kettle on the folks.

The west division is a huge opportunity for a couple schools. Make a habit of getting to represent their side in the CCG, and the recruits will keep flowing. I thought Minny would be in the running, but with Kill gone, I don't know. That leaves Neb, NW, Iowa, and Wiscy. At least 2 of those teams should really grow in the coming years. The B1G should probably throw Md over there, and give them a chance to grow. The better they do, the more UA money.

Overrated, and not particularly bright, apparently.

ACC could be the worst league in all of football and it has nothing to do with the Big 10 being over rated, moron.
 
Yeah, overrated. The B1G this year is all about fattening up their wins on a bunch of cap teams. Going into the last weekend of the season 1, count'em 1 B1G team has a top 25 SoS (MSU @24). Iowa is the 3rd best team Pitt has played this year and at best is a top 25 team (about the same as Pitt) but playing a terrible schedule and some luck along the way has them in the top 10.

Ot- Harbaugh is great coach for a psychotic person and will have UM killing the B1G in short order.
OSU won the national title last year, Urban Meyer's 3rd and at 2 different schools. Right now, 3 of the 4 best coaches college football are in the B10. I don't think Michigan will be "killing" the B10 east as long as Meyer and Dantonio are around. All three of those programs will be competing for it every year.

If the B10 is overrated, what league, other than the SEC, isn't?
 
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Over rated? The ACC has zero blue bloods, and only 2 teams that win regularly. It will be 3 if you guys keep winning. So don't go all kettle on the folks.

The west division is a huge opportunity for a couple schools. Make a habit of getting to represent their side in the CCG, and the recruits will keep flowing. I thought Minny would be in the running, but with Kill gone, I don't know. That leaves Neb, NW, Iowa, and Wiscy. At least 2 of those teams should really grow in the coming years. The B1G should probably throw Md over there, and give them a chance to grow. The better they do, the more UA money.
The ACC will have its chance to prove itself if Clemson can continue to remain in CFB Playoffs! The Big Ten has more Top Tier & Second Teams in my opinion, but the ACC has more Medoicre Teams and even less Botton Feeders nearer to each other on whole. I would still gove the edge to the Big Ten for 2015 and we will know more in 2 to 3 more games? Just my opinion, and others can differ.
ACC Tiers Teams 2015 So Far:

First Tier First Rate Teams:
Clemson
Notre Dame (ACC Related)
FSU

UNC

Second Tier Good Teams:
PITT
Miami
NCS


Third Tier Mediocre Teams:
ULou
Duke
VT
UVA
GT
Cuse
BC


Fourth Tier Bottom Feeders Teams:
Wake


Regarding Football Programs that includes Resources, Revenues, Attendance, Roster Sizes, Recruiting Summer Camp Numbers, High School Coaching Clinics, and Coaches Salaries, the Big Ten has more because it has larger Public Schools than Private and Semi-Private Schools and far smaller resources, rosters, and revenues. Bigger Top Tier Programs have the ability to put more resources in recruiting, rosters, and coaching salaries. This does not always translate into winning more but the abilities to win more and maintain winning is easier. In addition, having more Players on rosters and Scholarship is a large advantages as well.

Big Ten Top Tier Programs:
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Nebraska


ACC Top Tier Programs:
Notre Dame (ACC Related)
FSU
Clemson
Virginia Tech


Big Ten Second Tier Programs:
Wisconsin
Michigan State
Iowa


ACC Second Tier Programs:
UNC
ULou
NCS


Big Ten Third Tier Programs:
Illinois
Minnesota
Purdue
Indiana
Rutgers

Maryland
Northwestern


ACC Third Tier Programs:
UVA
Georgia Tech
Miami
Pitt
Cuse
BC
Duke

Wake

There is also Tiers in Coaches that Coach Up Teams and Coaches Recruiting! Winning is far more cyclical because that is subject to talent numbers, injuries, role players, depth charts, and experience based on Seniors, juniors, Sophomores and Freshmen and how the Coaches handle it from year to year as well as long as they have been there?

Big Ten Top Tier Recruiting Coaches & Programs:
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State


ACC Top Tier Coaches:
Notre Dame (Acc Related)
FSU
Clemson
Miami
ULou


Big Ten Second Tier:
Michigan State
Iowa
Nebraska (Walk On Program)
Wisconsin


ACC Second Tier:
UNC
Virginia Tech
NCS
UVA


Big Ten Third Tier:
Illinois
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota


ACC Third Tier
Pitt
Cuse
BC

Big Ten Fourth Tier:
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana


ACC Fourth Tier:
GT
Duke

Wake

 
"thebadby2, post: 544283, member: 1492"]OSU won the national title last year, Urban Meyer's 3rd and at 2 different schools. Right now, 3 of the 4 best coaches college football are in the B10. I don't think Michigan will be "killing" the B10 east as long as Meyer and Dantonio are around. All three of those programs will be competing for it every year.

If the B10 is overrated, what league, other than the SEC, isn't?
Disagree and realize this is very subjective and based on schedules and when one coach plays another coach and some coaches are New just getting starters and others Fired, Retired leaving as Posters Opinions evaluate the Coaches right now and can change in 3 more games? Right now my listings and all can agree with disagree. This category is not just looking at wins, but what resources you have at the school, recruiting, and ability to coach up Players into better Teams.

Big Ten First Tier Coaches:
Winning Anywhere They Coach!
OSU
Michigan
MSU
Iowa


ACC First Tier Coaches:
Winning Anywhere They Coach!

Clemson
Notre Dame (ACC Related)
FSU
UNC
ULou


Big Ten Second Tier Coaches:
Coach Up & Can Move To First Tier But Need Time!

Northwestern
Minnesota (Retiring TBA)


ACC Second Tier Coaches:
Coach Up & Can Over To First Tier But Need Time!

Georgia Tech
Pitt
VT (Retiring TBA)
Miami (Fired TBA)
Duke


Big Ten Mediocre Still Proving Coaches:
Have Resources Except Game Day Coaching Time Will Tell?

Wisconsin
Penn State
Nebraska
Indiana


ACC Mediocre Still Proving Coaches:
Have Resources Except Game Day Coaching Time Will Tell?

NCS
UVA (Hot Seat)
Cuse
BC


Big Ten Change Overs & Life Support:
Tough To Improve In Conference Competitors!

Purdue
Illinois (TBA)

ACC Change Overs & Life Support:
Tough To Improve In Conference Competitors!

Wake
 
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More specifically, the B1G is the most overrated conference year in year out. You could get into how tO$U shouldn't have been in playoff to begin with but that's an old discussion. Urban always seems to get his best results early in his tenure with a program, then the level falls off. This year tO$U has been skating along by playing a joke of schedule. Are they even in the top 60 SoS? That's a joke for a football factory school. MSU just took 2 hits with PN leaving and Harbaugh being hired. Give it a year a year or two, unfortunately Michigan will be it again for the B1G.

OSU won the national title last year, Urban Meyer's 3rd and at 2 different schools. Right now, 3 of the 4 best coaches college football are in the B10. I don't think Michigan will be "killing" the B10 east as long as Meyer and Dantonio are around. All three of those programs will be competing for it every year.

If the B10 is overrated, what league, other than the SEC, isn't?
 
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Over rated? The ACC has zero blue bloods, and only 2 teams that win regularly. It will be 3 if you guys keep winning. So don't go all kettle on the folks.

The west division is a huge opportunity for a couple schools. Make a habit of getting to represent their side in the CCG, and the recruits will keep flowing. I thought Minny would be in the running, but with Kill gone, I don't know. That leaves Neb, NW, Iowa, and Wiscy. At least 2 of those teams should really grow in the coming years. The B1G should probably throw Md over there, and give them a chance to grow. The better they do, the more UA money.

ACC has 5 teams that have won national championships in my lifetime. And your blue blood Michigan has been pretty much owned by "little brother", not to mention O$U for the better part of a decade. Thanks for beating PSU, now go take a hike and don't let the door slam you in the arse on the way out.
 
More specifically, the B1G is the most overrated conference year in year out. You could get into how tO$U shouldn't have been in playoff to begin with but that's an old discussion. Urban always seems to get his best results early in his tenure with a program, then the level falls off. This year tO$U has been skating along by playing a joke of schedule. Are they even in the top 60 SoS? That's a joke for a football factory school. MSU just took 2 hits with PN leaving and Harbaugh being hired. Give it a year a year or two, unfortunately Michigan will be it again for the B1G.
Very good analysis and post, I still think Meyer will end up at Notre Dame someday, and Dantonio at Ohio State and Narduzzi stays and builds Pitt into a Top 25-15 Program!

Although I agree the Big Ten used to be the Big Pretend and Big Two conference in previous years, the revenue resources from the TV & Big Ten Network has lifted all Programs to be more competitive and will continue to do so.

Additionally, the addition of Alvarez, Ferentz, and Dantnio and Fitzgerald has added to these Programs capable of playing everyone tough and challenging Ohio State and Michigan.

Harbaugh like Narduzzi is the Real Deal, this years shows how similar both coaches are in reality and just know their Football! There Players attitudes changed in one year, selected Great Coaching Staffs, Game Day Plans Excellent as well as Half Time Adjustments, Players Execution of Play improved all season long, Mistakes made in other games corrected, Complete Teams on all 3 Units, and just hard nose hitting and both exude Confidence right to their Players. Harbaugh is a superb Recruiter but has all the Traditions and resources to do it at Michigan, while Narduzzi has to rebuild Pitt like Dantonio, Alvarez, and Ferentz rebuilt MSU, Wisky, and Iowa?

Penn State and Nebraska are additions that have been tamed by the Big Ten Conference and are no l9onger First Tier Teams but still still First Tier Programs!

Paterno's Legacy Non-Compliance Sanction Divided University Poison and Pederson's Nebraskan Poor Judgment & Management Poison along with Big Ten Competition has really hurt them right now, and will not be easy coming back without Great Coaching?

Maryland and Rutgers can really hurt Penn State if they get the Right Coaches to coach up their players and keep 50% of the Top Recruits in both States.

Alvarez Tenure (Over 70) is coming to an end at Wisconsin and he can't keep a Good Coach anymore under his directions, and Chryst was a desperate move to save his Program & Job and is still an unproven coach?

Iowa Ferentz was on the hot Seat with Iowa Fans after 17 years until this year brought him back, and he is just a superb coach, but like Beamer at VT, at some point may have to go! Coaching is still a Middle Age Game!

Minnesota just lost Jerry Kill and will be hard to replace as Illinois, Purdue, and Indiana, need time to improve and compete with an ever growing bigger resources Big Ten that Michigan and Ohio State still rule, but more suitors to the Big Ten Throne more than in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s!


All Conferences are cyclical and growing revenues for all Power Conferences have lifted all Programs that find Great Coaching as the Traditional Powers need to do the same to stay on Top.

Just few years ago, Bama was challenged by LSU & Georgia, and Auburn and now all of them are thinking about firing their coaches to stay with Bama Superb Program & Coach Saban!

At the same time, Ole Miss and Missy State have risen over more Revenues, as Kentucky and Vandy look to improve, while South Carolina, LSU & UGA look for New and Better Coaching. Florida and the UTenn are on the mend but still no one is near Bama, in my opinion, year in and year out, they have challengers, but still rule since Saban got there?


The Big-12 is another example as TCU, Baylor and OKSU have found Great Coaches that have stayed, and OU has had to deal with some dips and downward turns to match them but Stops is a Great Coach too. as Texas the Biggest Richest Program in America struggles to find a New Great coach like Bama did after Bear Retired!

As well as, KSU, WVU, Texas Tech try hard to hang on, and ISU and Kansas remain Bottom Feeders?

Same with Ohio State lately, but now comes more suitors in the Big Ten and thus why it is better now than before, in my opinion!


The ACC & Pac-12 are in transitions as well. Some Programs need rebuilding and some are decline and others need better coaching and both have fewer Historical Top Tier Program Schools than Big Ten and SEC! They have more rising and falling Programs year to year. Yet, both Conferences have more Teams that are very competitive among each other with less Bottom Feeders and WannaBes like the Big Ten.

USC is Tops in the Big Ten and rebuilding since Sanctions, Oregon has a coaching problem. As Stanford, ASU, Utah, UA, and UCLA have improved but still a long way to go to keep it going every year in Top 25 Status. CAL, Washington, WSU, are still rebuilding while Oregon State and Colorado are still struggling.

In the ACC, FSU and Clemson have risen to Top 25 and Top 15 to Top 10 Status the last few years, but that is about it. UNC will soon be looking at NCAA Academic and Athletic Sanctions and I look for Fedora to jump ship soon. Miami and Virginia Tech are in transition again looking for a Great Coach and they have potential to return to Top 25 Status. VT with a Great program in need a Great Coach and Miami has the recruiting but needs Great Coach too.

Duke and Georgia Tech have Great coaches but hard to recruit in the Top 25 every year at those Private Schools. BC, UVA, CUSE, are still rebuilding and nothing can help Wake Forest.


ULou has brought back Petrino and Pitt has found Narduzzi but they are rebuilding the Programs again, but they will become Top 25 Programs in the future.

If FSU and Clemson maintain Top 25 Status. And joined by Miami, VT, ULou, and Pitt return to Top 25 Status they will be just as good as the Big Ten if not better, but right now they are Programs in need of more rebuilding than OSU, Michigan, MSU & Iowa, in my view.

As stated it Conferences go in cycles because winning Games is a Zero-Sum Game. Yet, clever scheduling cannot mask poor coaching and Programs must build up by Winning Ten Years Straight 10+ games and keep Great coaches that do it.

Once the College Football playoffs go to 6 to 8 Teams with each Power Conference having as eat in the Playoffs, and for Profit League comes to realty making many Programs more even, by sharing resources like the NFL. It will change, but Conference Cycles change and right now, Iowa, OSU, MSU and Michigan all have Great Coaching and Programs.
 
He was not the "wrong" guy for them, a safe pick and a bit of a Pitt taking Wanny thing, getting a homeboy back.

I doubt he will get them where their sensibilities are now set, but he will not leave and probably win 8-9 games a year with the over rated Big 10 slate.

I think the person to thank is Anderson for jumping ship and setting the dominoes in action.
Look at their schedule next year before you proclaim 8-9 win seasons. I think PC is a good coach....but he is going against great coaches soon with better material than he has.
Finally.....how long are people going to base their opinion of PC based on Wilson? Better to look at his QB's since then....no great shakes IMHO.
 
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Look at their schedule next year before you proclaim 8-9 win seasons. I think PC is a good coach....but he is going against great coaches soon with better material than he has.
Finally.....how long are people going to base their opinion of PC based on Wilson? Better to look at his QB's since then....no great shakes IMHO.
I agree, also would like to finish off this year last 2 games before proclaiming Big wins next year.

One play at a time, and one game at a time, and one season at a time. I accept others may be delighted and excited for Pitt's Future, but Pitt has so much more to do especially in recruiting. Injuries also play bigger roles in defeats than wins!

If Pitt go 10-3 I will be excited too, but until 2015 is over, I can wait for 2016 another year!
 
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