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The cost of having a D1 hockey team

Yeah, there’s a reason why most schools don’t just start up hockey teams, and one of the two that has done it recently got a $200M donation specifically earmarked for it. Penn State would not have D1 hockey if Pegula didn’t walk through the door unsolicited one afternoon and throw hundreds of millions on the table.
 
Yeah, there’s a reason why most schools don’t just start up hockey teams, and one of the two that has done it recently got a $200M donation specifically earmarked for it. Penn State would not have D1 hockey if Pegula didn’t walk through the door unsolicited one afternoon and throw hundreds of millions on the table.
Not only did he fund construction the ice arena, he fully endowed both the men's and women's programs. Unless that happens, varsity hockey ain't happening at Pitt.

So enjoy the club team that won the regular season and tournament titles of the ESCHL in their first season in the league and was the 12 overall seed in the national D1 club tournament.
 
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Yes. 18 scholies for men; 18 would probably be needed for women to offset. They also need to have equivalent facilities, perks, etc.
Yes, which is why it doesn’t make any sense.

IMO the only sports that would make sense to add would be men’s lacrosse (and even then, I’m not sure if you could fit another sport’s locker room and offices in the Petersen Sports Complex). You could conceivably add men’s volleyball or men’s gymnastics when the new complex is finished, but I highly doubt they’d add any new sport that isn’t sponsored by the ACC (this is also a reason why they probably won’t consider pursuing hockey).

If you wanted to add a women’s sport, something like rowing would make sense - Pitt already has a presence down by the river and you can pretty easily add a boathouse facility, it’s an ACC sport, and it has 20 scholarships for women’s rowing so it’s a big Title IX equalizer.

If Pitt wants to look to expand the number of sports, an easy place to look is at the list of sports sponsored by the ACC that Pitt does not currently offer. For men, that’s fencing, golf, lacrosse, and tennis. For women, that’s fencing, field hockey, golf, rowing, and tennis.
 
Yes, which is why it doesn’t make any sense.

IMO the only sports that would make sense to add would be men’s lacrosse (and even then, I’m not sure if you could fit another sport’s locker room and offices in the Petersen Sports Complex). You could conceivably add men’s volleyball or men’s gymnastics when the new complex is finished, but I highly doubt they’d add any new sport that isn’t sponsored by the ACC (this is also a reason why they probably won’t consider pursuing hockey).

If you wanted to add a women’s sport, something like rowing would make sense - Pitt already has a presence down by the river and you can pretty easily add a boathouse facility, it’s an ACC sport, and it has 20 scholarships for women’s rowing so it’s a big Title IX equalizer.

If Pitt wants to look to expand the number of sports, an easy place to look is at the list of sports sponsored by the ACC that Pitt does not currently offer. For men, that’s fencing, golf, lacrosse, and tennis. For women, that’s fencing, field hockey, golf, rowing, and tennis.
You'd need to build a dedicated lax field, and may need to add another women's team.

The opportunities for women's sports have to approximately match the proportion of women enrolled at the school.

They looked at field hockey when they added lax. Either or, not both. I agree, rowing would make sense, and mostly could be off-campus to avoid crowding existing facilities. But it is expensive. Doesn't make sense on its own.
 
You'd need to build a dedicated lax field, and may need to add another women's team.

The opportunities for women's sports have to approximately match the proportion of women enrolled at the school.

They looked at field hockey when they added lax. Either or, not both. I agree, rowing would make sense, and mostly could be off-campus to avoid crowding existing facilities. But it is expensive. Doesn't make sense on its own.
I agree - I was saying that if you’re adding one sport, you’d probably end up adding two for the reasons you said. And I think the only two that could make any sense from a scholarship/ACC/facilities/overall cost perspective are men’s lacrosse and women’s rowing.
 
I agree - I was saying that if you’re adding one sport, you’d probably end up adding two for the reasons you said. And I think the only two that could make any sense from a scholarship/ACC/facilities/overall cost perspective are men’s lacrosse and women’s rowing.
I don't either really make sense at this point though, unless Pitt needed to balance Title IX. They don't need to right now.

Pitt needs to take care of the sports that it has and fund them appropriately. It still has a lot of work to do with the 19 that it has. I wouldn't want to add more at this point unless it had to or they could pay for themselves (which means someone would need to endow them).
 
I don't either really make sense at this point though, unless Pitt needed to balance Title IX. They don't need to right now.

Pitt needs to take care of the sports that it has and fund them appropriately. It still has a lot of work to do with the 19 that it has. I wouldn't want to add more at this point unless it had to or they could pay for themselves (which means someone would need to endow them).
Totally agreed. My point was more that if they were to ever look at expanding the roster, there are a number of other sports that would make much more sense. People just like throwing out hockey because they like watching the Penguins.
 
I agree - I was saying that if you’re adding one sport, you’d probably end up adding two for the reasons you said. And I think the only two that could make any sense from a scholarship/ACC/facilities/overall cost perspective are men’s lacrosse and women’s rowing.


I don't know how many scholarships they offer (and I'm being too lazy to look it up), but golf would be a pretty cheap add, all things considered, in a sport that the ACC sponsors.
 
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