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How many of us have had this thought?:

By Michael GersonOpinion writerFebruary 5


According to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, the declassified Devin Nunes memo — alleging FBI misconduct in the Russia investigation — is “not an indictment of the FBI, of the Department of Justice.”


According to President Trump, the memo shows how leaders at the FBI “politicized the sacred investigative process in favor of Democrats” and “totally vindicates ‘Trump’ in probe.”

Both men are deluded or deceptive.

Releasing the memo — while suppressing a dissenting assessment from other members of the House Intelligence Committee — was clearly intended to demonstrate that the FBI is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party. The effort ended in a pathetic fizzle. Nunes’s brief, amateurish document failed to demonstrate that FBI surveillance was triggered solely or mainly by a Democratic-funded dossier. But for cherry-picking above and beyond the call of duty, Nunes (R-Calif.) deserves his own exhibit in the hackery hall of fame. This was a true innovation: an intelligence product created and released for the consumption of Fox News.


Trump’s eager publication of the memo was expected. Yet his action crossed a line: from criticism of the FBI to executive action designed to undermine an ongoing investigation. Trump seems to be testing the waters for direct action against the FBI by testing the limits of what his Republican followers will stomach. So far, there are no limits.

With the blessing of Republican leaders, the lickspittle wing of the GOP is now firmly in charge. The existence of reckless partisans such as Nunes is hardly surprising. The nearly uniform cowardice among elected Republicans is staggering. One is left wishing that Obamacare covered spine transplants. The Republican-led Congress is now an adjunct of the White House. The White House is now an adjunct of Trump’s chaotic will.

And what to make of Ryan (R-Wis.)? I have been a consistent defender of his good intentions. But after the 17th time saying “He knows better,” it dawns that he may not. By his recent actions, the speaker has provided political cover for a weakening of the constitutional order. He has been used as a tool while loudly insisting he is not a tool. The way Ryan is headed, history offers two possible verdicts: Either he enabled an autocrat, or he was intimidated by a fool. I believe Ryan to be a good person. But the greatest source of cynicism is not the existence of corrupt people in politics; it is good people who lose their way.

The United States Congress is an institution of great power. According to the Constitution, it can deny jurisdiction to the Supreme Court. It can remove the commander in chief. But now it watches as Trump makes the executive branch his personal fiefdom. It stands by — or cheers — as the president persecutes law enforcement professionals for the performance of their public duties.


Why can’t Republican legislators see the personal damage this might cause? Trump has made a practice of forcing people around him to lower their standards and abandon their ideals before turning against them when their usefulness ends. His servants are sucked dry of integrity and dignity, then thrown away like the rind of a squeezed orange. Who does Trump’s bidding and has his or her reputation enhanced? A generation of Republicans will end up writing memoirs of apology and regret.

The political damage to the GOP as the party of corruption and coverup should be obvious as well. This is a rare case when the rats, rather than deserting a sinking ship, seemed determined to ride it all the way down.

But it is damage to the conscience that is hardest to repair. For Republicans, what seemed like a temporary political compromise is becoming an indelible moral stain. The Russia investigation is revealing a Trump universe in which ethical considerations did not (and do not) figure at all. Who can imagine a senior Trump campaign official — say, Paul Manafort or Donald Trump Jr. — saying the words “That would be wrong”? Their degraded spirit has now invaded the whole GOP. By defending Trump’s transgressions, by justifying his abuses, Republicans are creating an atmosphere in which corruption and cowardice thrive.

How can this course be corrected? “You only have one political death,” said Rep. John Jacob Rhodes, the late Republican congressman from Arizona, “but you can choose when to use it.” Larger showdowns — concerning the possible firings of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein — now seem likely. If there is nothing for which Ryan and other Republican leaders will risk their careers, there is nothing in which they truly believe.
 
How many of us have had this thought?:

By Michael GersonOpinion writerFebruary 5


According to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, the declassified Devin Nunes memo — alleging FBI misconduct in the Russia investigation — is “not an indictment of the FBI, of the Department of Justice.”


According to President Trump, the memo shows how leaders at the FBI “politicized the sacred investigative process in favor of Democrats” and “totally vindicates ‘Trump’ in probe.”

Both men are deluded or deceptive.

Releasing the memo — while suppressing a dissenting assessment from other members of the House Intelligence Committee — was clearly intended to demonstrate that the FBI is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party. The effort ended in a pathetic fizzle. Nunes’s brief, amateurish document failed to demonstrate that FBI surveillance was triggered solely or mainly by a Democratic-funded dossier. But for cherry-picking above and beyond the call of duty, Nunes (R-Calif.) deserves his own exhibit in the hackery hall of fame. This was a true innovation: an intelligence product created and released for the consumption of Fox News.


Trump’s eager publication of the memo was expected. Yet his action crossed a line: from criticism of the FBI to executive action designed to undermine an ongoing investigation. Trump seems to be testing the waters for direct action against the FBI by testing the limits of what his Republican followers will stomach. So far, there are no limits.

With the blessing of Republican leaders, the lickspittle wing of the GOP is now firmly in charge. The existence of reckless partisans such as Nunes is hardly surprising. The nearly uniform cowardice among elected Republicans is staggering. One is left wishing that Obamacare covered spine transplants. The Republican-led Congress is now an adjunct of the White House. The White House is now an adjunct of Trump’s chaotic will.

And what to make of Ryan (R-Wis.)? I have been a consistent defender of his good intentions. But after the 17th time saying “He knows better,” it dawns that he may not. By his recent actions, the speaker has provided political cover for a weakening of the constitutional order. He has been used as a tool while loudly insisting he is not a tool. The way Ryan is headed, history offers two possible verdicts: Either he enabled an autocrat, or he was intimidated by a fool. I believe Ryan to be a good person. But the greatest source of cynicism is not the existence of corrupt people in politics; it is good people who lose their way.

The United States Congress is an institution of great power. According to the Constitution, it can deny jurisdiction to the Supreme Court. It can remove the commander in chief. But now it watches as Trump makes the executive branch his personal fiefdom. It stands by — or cheers — as the president persecutes law enforcement professionals for the performance of their public duties.


Why can’t Republican legislators see the personal damage this might cause? Trump has made a practice of forcing people around him to lower their standards and abandon their ideals before turning against them when their usefulness ends. His servants are sucked dry of integrity and dignity, then thrown away like the rind of a squeezed orange. Who does Trump’s bidding and has his or her reputation enhanced? A generation of Republicans will end up writing memoirs of apology and regret.

The political damage to the GOP as the party of corruption and coverup should be obvious as well. This is a rare case when the rats, rather than deserting a sinking ship, seemed determined to ride it all the way down.

But it is damage to the conscience that is hardest to repair. For Republicans, what seemed like a temporary political compromise is becoming an indelible moral stain. The Russia investigation is revealing a Trump universe in which ethical considerations did not (and do not) figure at all. Who can imagine a senior Trump campaign official — say, Paul Manafort or Donald Trump Jr. — saying the words “That would be wrong”? Their degraded spirit has now invaded the whole GOP. By defending Trump’s transgressions, by justifying his abuses, Republicans are creating an atmosphere in which corruption and cowardice thrive.

How can this course be corrected? “You only have one political death,” said Rep. John Jacob Rhodes, the late Republican congressman from Arizona, “but you can choose when to use it.” Larger showdowns — concerning the possible firings of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein — now seem likely. If there is nothing for which Ryan and other Republican leaders will risk their careers, there is nothing in which they truly believe.

Wow, a guy with an opinion. I'm blown over.
 
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How many of us have had this thought?:

By Michael GersonOpinion writerFebruary 5


According to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, the declassified Devin Nunes memo — alleging FBI misconduct in the Russia investigation — is “not an indictment of the FBI, of the Department of Justice.”


According to President Trump, the memo shows how leaders at the FBI “politicized the sacred investigative process in favor of Democrats” and “totally vindicates ‘Trump’ in probe.”

Both men are deluded or deceptive.

Releasing the memo — while suppressing a dissenting assessment from other members of the House Intelligence Committee — was clearly intended to demonstrate that the FBI is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party. The effort ended in a pathetic fizzle. Nunes’s brief, amateurish document failed to demonstrate that FBI surveillance was triggered solely or mainly by a Democratic-funded dossier. But for cherry-picking above and beyond the call of duty, Nunes (R-Calif.) deserves his own exhibit in the hackery hall of fame. This was a true innovation: an intelligence product created and released for the consumption of Fox News.


Trump’s eager publication of the memo was expected. Yet his action crossed a line: from criticism of the FBI to executive action designed to undermine an ongoing investigation. Trump seems to be testing the waters for direct action against the FBI by testing the limits of what his Republican followers will stomach. So far, there are no limits.

With the blessing of Republican leaders, the lickspittle wing of the GOP is now firmly in charge. The existence of reckless partisans such as Nunes is hardly surprising. The nearly uniform cowardice among elected Republicans is staggering. One is left wishing that Obamacare covered spine transplants. The Republican-led Congress is now an adjunct of the White House. The White House is now an adjunct of Trump’s chaotic will.

And what to make of Ryan (R-Wis.)? I have been a consistent defender of his good intentions. But after the 17th time saying “He knows better,” it dawns that he may not. By his recent actions, the speaker has provided political cover for a weakening of the constitutional order. He has been used as a tool while loudly insisting he is not a tool. The way Ryan is headed, history offers two possible verdicts: Either he enabled an autocrat, or he was intimidated by a fool. I believe Ryan to be a good person. But the greatest source of cynicism is not the existence of corrupt people in politics; it is good people who lose their way.

The United States Congress is an institution of great power. According to the Constitution, it can deny jurisdiction to the Supreme Court. It can remove the commander in chief. But now it watches as Trump makes the executive branch his personal fiefdom. It stands by — or cheers — as the president persecutes law enforcement professionals for the performance of their public duties.


Why can’t Republican legislators see the personal damage this might cause? Trump has made a practice of forcing people around him to lower their standards and abandon their ideals before turning against them when their usefulness ends. His servants are sucked dry of integrity and dignity, then thrown away like the rind of a squeezed orange. Who does Trump’s bidding and has his or her reputation enhanced? A generation of Republicans will end up writing memoirs of apology and regret.

The political damage to the GOP as the party of corruption and coverup should be obvious as well. This is a rare case when the rats, rather than deserting a sinking ship, seemed determined to ride it all the way down.

But it is damage to the conscience that is hardest to repair. For Republicans, what seemed like a temporary political compromise is becoming an indelible moral stain. The Russia investigation is revealing a Trump universe in which ethical considerations did not (and do not) figure at all. Who can imagine a senior Trump campaign official — say, Paul Manafort or Donald Trump Jr. — saying the words “That would be wrong”? Their degraded spirit has now invaded the whole GOP. By defending Trump’s transgressions, by justifying his abuses, Republicans are creating an atmosphere in which corruption and cowardice thrive.

How can this course be corrected? “You only have one political death,” said Rep. John Jacob Rhodes, the late Republican congressman from Arizona, “but you can choose when to use it.” Larger showdowns — concerning the possible firings of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein — now seem likely. If there is nothing for which Ryan and other Republican leaders will risk their careers, there is nothing in which they truly believe.

Wow, a guy with an opinion. I'm blown over.

Not to mention he's a columnist for WAPO.

#FAIL
 
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Partisan politics are a drain on America, and the 2 memos, with the House Republican version being the most notable, do nothing less than to serve partisan politics.

A man I have lost great respect for is Paul Ryan, this guy has proven to waffle more than IHOP.

Will this country ever realize there is a great middle ground that is called compromise, but no, fanatics like we see on both sides here, will want their unmitigated position maintained, and anything other than it is unacceptable.

Let us have a fair review of whatever Russian involvement there was, did it in fact impact the elections, did it impact either party, was it in any way sponsored by either party. Unfortunately the efforts of the GOP to deny and squash any efforts for independent review seem to paint a picture of something to hide. Get it out there, and let us see who did wrong, who should pay for wrong done, is there really anything to be afraid of. We won't find out by firing every Independent Counsel that is appointed to look into it.
 
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Clearly the author is not capable of nuanced thinking.

A. Company CEOs were corrupt
B. Employees of the company are good hard working people

According to This slap if A is true B must be false. Nuanced thinking is not a skill set he has mastered
 
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Partisan politics are a drain on America, and the 2 memos, with the House Republican version being the most notable, do nothing less than to serve partisan politics.

A man I have lost great respect for is Paul Ryan, this guy has proven to waffle more than IHOP.

Will this country ever realize there is a great middle ground that is called compromise, but no, fanatics like we see on both sides here, will want their unmitigated position maintained, and anything other than it is unacceptable.

Let us have a fair review of whatever Russian involvement there was, did it in fact impact the elections, did it impact either party, was it in any way sponsored by either party. Unfortunately the efforts of the GOP to deny and squash any efforts for independent review seem to paint a picture of something to hide. Get it out there, and let us see who did wrong, who should pay for wrong done, is there really anything to be afraid of. We won't find out by firing every Independent Counsel that is appointed to look into it.

No independent counsel has been fired, and there's only been one.
 
Partisan politics are a drain on America, and the 2 memos, with the House Republican version being the most notable, do nothing less than to serve partisan politics.

A man I have lost great respect for is Paul Ryan, this guy has proven to waffle more than IHOP.

Will this country ever realize there is a great middle ground that is called compromise, but no, fanatics like we see on both sides here, will want their unmitigated position maintained, and anything other than it is unacceptable.

Let us have a fair review of whatever Russian involvement there was, did it in fact impact the elections, did it impact either party, was it in any way sponsored by either party. Unfortunately the efforts of the GOP to deny and squash any efforts for independent review seem to paint a picture of something to hide. Get it out there, and let us see who did wrong, who should pay for wrong done, is there really anything to be afraid of. We won't find out by firing every Independent Counsel that is appointed to look into it.
You do understand that the GOP memo was a direct response to Dem partisan actions, right?
 
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Obstruction of Justice is a Crime. People who try to Obstruction know it's so, yet why would they GO THERE?
 
And he has an opinion.

That's all these people are, opinion givers.

Bush never had great speeches.

If you love our Country and are concerned about the Republican Party his words are very powerful and should be concerning.
 
If you love our Country and are concerned about the Republican Party his words are very powerful and should be concerning.
I do love our country, couldn't care less about the big-government segment of the GOP that Gerson represents, and think his columns are generally inane.
 
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Clearly the author is not capable of nuanced thinking.

A. Company CEOs were corrupt
B. Employees of the company are good hard working people

According to This slap if A is true B must be false. Nuanced thinking is not a skill set he has mastered
Or perhaps the CEO, Sr Leadership and the employees were all honorable hard working people and a segment of the public consumers just didn't like them and searched for reasons to rationalize their animus.
 
Or perhaps the CEO, Sr Leadership and the employees were all honorable hard working people and a segment of the public consumers just didn't like them and searched for reasons to rationalize their animus.

OR maybe McCabe is a real piece of shit, who took early retirement the day after his boss read a damaging memo from House Intel and before a OIG report was released.
 
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Or perhaps the CEO, Sr Leadership and the employees were all honorable hard working people and a segment of the public consumers just didn't like them and searched for reasons to rationalize their animus.
Perhaps, but the evidence doesn't support that speculation.
 
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How many of us have had this thought?:

By Michael GersonOpinion writerFebruary 5


According to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, the declassified Devin Nunes memo — alleging FBI misconduct in the Russia investigation — is “not an indictment of the FBI, of the Department of Justice.”


According to President Trump, the memo shows how leaders at the FBI “politicized the sacred investigative process in favor of Democrats” and “totally vindicates ‘Trump’ in probe.”

Both men are deluded or deceptive.

Releasing the memo — while suppressing a dissenting assessment from other members of the House Intelligence Committee — was clearly intended to demonstrate that the FBI is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party. The effort ended in a pathetic fizzle. Nunes’s brief, amateurish document failed to demonstrate that FBI surveillance was triggered solely or mainly by a Democratic-funded dossier. But for cherry-picking above and beyond the call of duty, Nunes (R-Calif.) deserves his own exhibit in the hackery hall of fame. This was a true innovation: an intelligence product created and released for the consumption of Fox News.


Trump’s eager publication of the memo was expected. Yet his action crossed a line: from criticism of the FBI to executive action designed to undermine an ongoing investigation. Trump seems to be testing the waters for direct action against the FBI by testing the limits of what his Republican followers will stomach. So far, there are no limits.

With the blessing of Republican leaders, the lickspittle wing of the GOP is now firmly in charge. The existence of reckless partisans such as Nunes is hardly surprising. The nearly uniform cowardice among elected Republicans is staggering. One is left wishing that Obamacare covered spine transplants. The Republican-led Congress is now an adjunct of the White House. The White House is now an adjunct of Trump’s chaotic will.

And what to make of Ryan (R-Wis.)? I have been a consistent defender of his good intentions. But after the 17th time saying “He knows better,” it dawns that he may not. By his recent actions, the speaker has provided political cover for a weakening of the constitutional order. He has been used as a tool while loudly insisting he is not a tool. The way Ryan is headed, history offers two possible verdicts: Either he enabled an autocrat, or he was intimidated by a fool. I believe Ryan to be a good person. But the greatest source of cynicism is not the existence of corrupt people in politics; it is good people who lose their way.

The United States Congress is an institution of great power. According to the Constitution, it can deny jurisdiction to the Supreme Court. It can remove the commander in chief. But now it watches as Trump makes the executive branch his personal fiefdom. It stands by — or cheers — as the president persecutes law enforcement professionals for the performance of their public duties.


Why can’t Republican legislators see the personal damage this might cause? Trump has made a practice of forcing people around him to lower their standards and abandon their ideals before turning against them when their usefulness ends. His servants are sucked dry of integrity and dignity, then thrown away like the rind of a squeezed orange. Who does Trump’s bidding and has his or her reputation enhanced? A generation of Republicans will end up writing memoirs of apology and regret.

The political damage to the GOP as the party of corruption and coverup should be obvious as well. This is a rare case when the rats, rather than deserting a sinking ship, seemed determined to ride it all the way down.

But it is damage to the conscience that is hardest to repair. For Republicans, what seemed like a temporary political compromise is becoming an indelible moral stain. The Russia investigation is revealing a Trump universe in which ethical considerations did not (and do not) figure at all. Who can imagine a senior Trump campaign official — say, Paul Manafort or Donald Trump Jr. — saying the words “That would be wrong”? Their degraded spirit has now invaded the whole GOP. By defending Trump’s transgressions, by justifying his abuses, Republicans are creating an atmosphere in which corruption and cowardice thrive.

How can this course be corrected? “You only have one political death,” said Rep. John Jacob Rhodes, the late Republican congressman from Arizona, “but you can choose when to use it.” Larger showdowns — concerning the possible firings of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein — now seem likely. If there is nothing for which Ryan and other Republican leaders will risk their careers, there is nothing in which they truly believe.
Can't wait for the second "memo". Comey is a lying, treacherous SOB, so is McCabe. The writer of this epic tome is completely off base. The Dems colluded with Steele & the above mentioned bums to try to damage Trump. The big losers will be HRC & BHO....who both knew about the FISA lies. My guess is Lynch (appropriate name) knew, too. Fry all of them. GITMO is too plush, put them in Attica.
 
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And a Republican and former G W Speech writer who is concerned for the Country and the Republican Party.
Selling op-ed pieces for chum bait to the weak-minded libs. Next up....a book, what else. A good title?? "Wet Dreams of My Father".
 
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Can't wait for the second "memo". Comey is a lying, treacherous SOB, so is McCabe. The writer of this epic tome is completely off base. The Dems colluded with Steele & the above mentioned bums to try to damage Trump. The big losers will be HRC & BHO....who both knew about the FISA lies. My guess is Lynch (appropriate name) knew, too. Fry all of them. GITMO is too plush, put them in Attica.

How are you doing? Haven't seen you on the board for awhile.

You still have the fire in your posts. No evidence to support your strong opinions.
 
How are you doing? Haven't seen you on the board for awhile.

You still have the fire in your posts. No evidence to support your strong opinions.

Says the man who started this thread with an arm length opinion piece lol
 
I'd wait till all the facts to come out before coming to any conclusions. I've said this from the get go.......Those going all in on either side (about 90% on this board) run the risk of looking really foolish as more information is disclosed.
 
Says the man who started this thread with an arm length opinion piece lol

It's not about me, understand that.

Think about statements by A Republican pundit who is quite concerned that the Republican Leadership is being quiet in the face of attacks on the investigative agency and the DOJ with Devin Nunes' of the house committee chairman being a mole for the W/H that is at the center of the investigation.

You are one who claims to be a non-partisan so you should be more concerned about the Country over Party. And what about P Ryan?
 
I'd wait till all the facts to come out before coming to any conclusions. I've said this from the get go.......Those going all in on either side (about 90% on this board) run the risk of looking really foolish as more information is disclosed.

Yes but while you and all of us wait, the President is doing everything he can to undermine the investigation and it's legitimacy.
 
It's not about me, understand that.

Think about statements by A Republican pundit who is quite concerned that the Republican Leadership is being quiet in the face of attacks on the investigative agency and the DOJ with Devin Nunes' of the house committee chairman being a mole for the W/H that is at the center of the investigation.

You are one who claims to be a non-partisan so you should be more concerned about the Country over Party. And what about P Ryan?


Lol I am more about country than party.

That's why, unlike you with any Dems, I've actually criticized Republicans

You on the other hand can't even fathom the possibility that someone's 4th amendment rights may have been violated because it was a Dem administration in charge.

Pot meet kettle

I have criticized Trump for Tweeting excessively, for his boorish behavior,for the Betsy DeVos appointment among other things.

And you've criticized what Dem for what again Mr Bipartisan ?

Can you please grab a pen and paper this time because this is over 10 times I've specified what I criticized Trump on and not once can you name a Dem you've criticized.

Put up or shut up. You calling others out here for being partisan is hysterical hypocrisy.

Name one. I just named 3.

Partisan is the LAST word that should ever leave your lips when describing any one else !!
 
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Yes but while you and all of us wait, the President is doing everything he can to undermine the investigation and it's legitimacy.

Other han Maddows opinion please proved a a source to believe that trump is doing everything to undermine the investigation

This should be rich
 
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Other han Maddows opinion please proved a a source to believe that trump is doing everything to undermine the investigation

This should be rich

I'll start with Republican Michael Garson. Lindsay Graham, Sen Flake, Sen McCain, Lawrence O'Donnell, Sen Bob Corker.
 
Lol I am more about country than party.

That's why, unlike you with any Dems, I've actually criticized Republicans

You on the other hand can't even fathom the possibility that someone's 4th amendment rights may have been violated because it was a Dem administration in charge.

Pot meet kettle

I have criticized Trump for Tweeting excessively, for his boorish behavior,for the Betsy DeVos appointment among other things.

And you've criticized what Dem for what again Mr Bipartisan ?

Can you please grab a pen and paper this time because this is over 10 times I've specified what I criticized Trump on and not once can you name a Dem you've criticized.

Put up or shut up. You calling others out here for being partisan is hysterical hypocrisy.

Name one. I just named 3.

Partisan is the LAST word that should ever leave your lips when describing any one else !!

You are so fixated with me that you can't discuss my points. A personal bias?
 
Lol I am more about country than party.

That's why, unlike you with any Dems, I've actually criticized Republicans

You on the other hand can't even fathom the possibility that someone's 4th amendment rights may have been violated because it was a Dem administration in charge.

Pot meet kettle

I have criticized Trump for Tweeting excessively, for his boorish behavior,for the Betsy DeVos appointment among other things.

And you've criticized what Dem for what again Mr Bipartisan ?

Can you please grab a pen and paper this time because this is over 10 times I've specified what I criticized Trump on and not once can you name a Dem you've criticized.

Put up or shut up. You calling others out here for being partisan is hysterical hypocrisy.

Name one. I just named 3.

Partisan is the LAST word that should ever leave your lips when describing any one else !!

You are so fixated with me that you can't discuss my points. A personal bias?

Where's your example Mr Bipartisan?

Don't try your typical deflecting.

I'm proving your point wrong. You called out my partisanship. Im calling out your hypocrisy

Where are your Bipartisan statements?

Is this where your definition of the truth changes like NC pointed out today in the other thread from Jan 4 to today?
Lol you can't even keep your OWN story straight and you want me to hit a moving target? What will your words mean tomorrow? He proved your definition of truth changed in a month

Show me one statement please.

If you don't I'll just consider it a concession you can't.
 
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OR maybe McCabe is a real piece of shit, who took early retirement the day after his boss read a damaging memo from House Intel and before a OIG report was released.
Would have been plausible if there had been a damaging memo from the House Intel Committee. All there was to read was Nunes hyped up partisan super dud.
 
Is this where your definition of the truth changes like NC pointed out today in the other thread from Jan 4 to today?
Lol you can't even keep your OWN story straight and you want me to hit a moving target? What will your words mean tomorrow? He proved your definition of truth changed in a month

Show me one statement please.

If you don't I'll just consider it a concession you can't.

I understand. And the TRUTH is absolute so you can't vie for it. Justice isn't.

That's quite a change in philosophy from your Jan 4 argument:

Jan 4 Statement: Good point, but no difference. When it's absolute, everyone will agree.

It just takes reading and comprehension on your part. PLEASE.

If you don't understand that, I can't help YOU.
 
Is this where your definition of the truth changes like NC pointed out today in the other thread from Jan 4 to today?
Lol you can't even keep your OWN story straight and you want me to hit a moving target? What will your words mean tomorrow? He proved your definition of truth changed in a month

Show me one statement please.

If you don't I'll just consider it a concession you can't.

I understand. And the TRUTH is absolute so you can't vie for it. Justice isn't.

That's quite a change in philosophy from your Jan 4 argument:

Good point, but no difference. When it's absolute, everyone will agree.
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It just takes reading and comprehension on your part. PLEASE.

If you don't understand that, I can't help YOU.

Concession acknowledged and noted. You can't name any.

You have no bipartisanship at all.

And Nope. You didn't even post the same two quotes NC did showing your change in position but nice try.
Go back and quote his post, not your doctored version you tried to post here.


My point proven.

Good night !!
 
It just takes reading and comprehension on your part. PLEASE.

If you don't understand that, I can't help YOU.


Despite your lame attempt at leaving out your January 4th post and fudging the context, here's the actual quotes that proved your inconsistencies.

Just as a reminder

"JGregor said: ↑Let's go over this and be clear:Truth is absolute, otherwise it's not the truth. The reasoning to get to the truth is what can be wrong. While justice may not be absolute."

NC PITT :That's quite a change in philosophy from your Jan 4 argument:

JGregor said: ↑It can only be TRUTH if everyone agrees, otherwise it's unsettled.

So how can truth be absolute then only true if everyone agrees.

Lame and shame on you for trying to DECEIVE by leaving out your original statement.
 
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Despite your lame attempt at leaving out your January 4th post and fudging the context, here's the actual quotes that proved your inconsistencies.

"JGregor said: ↑Let's go over this and be clear:Truth is absolute, otherwise it's not the truth. The reasoning to get to the truth is what can be wrong. While justice may not be absolute."

NC PITT :That's quite a change in philosophy from your Jan 4 argument:

JGregor said: ↑It can only be TRUTH if everyone agrees, otherwise it's unsettled.

So how can truth be absolute then only true if everyone agrees.

Lame and shame on you for trying to DECEIVE by leaving out your original statement.

The problem here again is that you do not understand either statement. When it's absolute everyone agrees. I did think that you would understand that. This is simple and NC understood.

I don't want to play your silly game.

BONGO, get a new sets of drums.
 
The problem here again is that you do not understand either statement. When it's absolute everyone agrees. I did think that you would understand that. This is simple and NC understood.

I don't want to play your silly game.

BONGO, get a new sets of drums.


Concession acknowledged and noted !!



Nice try. My simple game is to get you to back up your claim which is why you're bailing
You can't name one bipartisan statement you've ever made while calling me partisan

Where did NC understand? He's the one that called you out for your two statements NOT being in agreement. LMFAO
You're out there buddy.



Try to play cute when caught in your own hypocrisy.

Concession acknowledged and noted.
 
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I'll start with Republican Michael Garson. Lindsay Graham, Sen Flake, Sen McCain, Lawrence O'Donnell, Sen Bob Corker.

And? Yes those are senators. What evidence do you have to prove that trump is doing what you claim? And please Lawrence O’Donnell?

Please provide the facts other than names and I’m assuming their opinions You might as well include Nancy pelosis opinion and Adam FULLOFShiff
 
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