The Early look at Pitt's 2016 football schedule

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

But, in that game, his best that season, he scored none. Zero.
By your standard, that's a bad game.

Lots of players on the field and team are responsible for a touchdown, not just the guy who got into the end zone. Never mind what the coaches on the sideline decide. Part of the reason McCoy had so many was because Cav barely called for passing plays inside the 20.

I don't watch psu games, so I don't know how good that running back is. But if he's not good, it isn't because he only scored a certain amount of touchdowns.

Barkley is an exceptional Running Back and shows all the Right Moves & Right Stuff. I predicted way before the season he would be one of the best in CFB. He was Big Ten Rookie of the Year and Moorhead will know how to use him with Robinson and Sanders.

McSorely will run and gun with great Wideouts, but they will need time to put in and use Moorhead's System and OL must be better too? Pitt's LBs and DBs have to be ready too, or big plays can happen.

If Pitt Offense has the WRs ready with TE and OC/QB executing good called game plans, Pitt Offense should score enough to win too. But "IFS Are Illusions" until they become Realities?

 

[steel_curtain]

Which is about where Pitt was in 2007. That Lesean McCoy must have really stunk.
Or maybe some of the other ten players were part of the problem.

-And Mccoy constantly put the ball in the Endzone as a freshmen and constantly scored TD's, and now is dominating in the NFL. McCoy dominated in college, and now is the fastest player in NFL history to 8000 yards. McCoy scored touchdowns at will in college.

-What am I missing here? Barkley cant score, and neither can Penn State. If he was all that he would score more than 7 TD's total in a season. Shady McCoy would of scored way more than 7 TD's in a single season at Penn State. Their schedule was also a complete joke. For pete sake, how do you not see it?

 

[steel_curtain]

-For the record, if a Pitt starting RB ever scored 7 TD's in an entire season, I would completely slam that player and never hype that player for anything.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"PhPanther1, post: 1254192, member: 37896"]Villanova - Win 1-0. Should be a cake walk.
First Games have kinks that need to be corrected but good coaches especially after Half-Time overcome any problems.


Penn State - Win 2-0. Should be an easy win, but PSU will score late make it look closer than it was.
Pretty good call!

Oklahoma St - Loss 2-1. They're gonna blow us off the field with their offense.
Pitt Offense will have to out score them to win?


UNC - Win 3-1. They're not as good as they looked last year and big loss of Williams.
Marshall - Win 4-1. Scary win, but a wins a win.
Another good call!


Georgia Tech - Loss 4-2. Thomas will be too much to handle
Another good call, but Pitt can out score them too! Toss Up!

Virginia - Win 5-2. They stink.
They will better, but so will be Pitt Defense by the 4th game?

Virginia Tech - Win 6-2. They are rebuilding
Yep, Fuente needs a year or two, not an easy win, but a Toss Up Win!

Miami - Loss 6-3. I never feel comfortable predicting a win over a team with that many athletes.
Exactly, and Coaching way better by this 6th games too?

Clemson - Loss 6-4. They're gonna blow us off the field.
This is what Narduzzi will measure as well!

Duke - Win 7-4. They stink
Can't underestimate this game especially after a Clemson loss of funk blow out or heartbroken loss or lucky close doubtful win?

Syracuse - Win 8-4. They stink.
Babers will have them playing better but maybe in the 2nd and 3rd year, compared to Pitt!

Only wins I think could be losses...UNC
Losses I think could be wins...Georgia Tech
Good possible analysis!

8-4 Happy, 9-3 Super Happy. I have a hard time seeing them going 7-5 or worse.
Good record for that schedule but if Pitt Offense is humming as Defense comes together, could be better too, and worst if injuries happen.

 

[steel_curtain]

-For the record, if a Pitt starting RB ever scored 7 TD's in an entire season, I would completely slam that player and never hype that player for anything.

-The craziest and most pathetic part about this entire thread. Is Barkely is getting massive hype by Pitt fans. Pitt fans!!!!

-Ollison was the ACC freshmen of the year. He had more yards than Barkley, more TD's than Barkley, and played a far harder schedule than Barkley. And Ollison isnt getting any hype at all. NONE, not even by me. That's both funny and sad in its own right.

 

[OriginalEther]

W

-For the record, if a Pitt starting RB ever scored 7 TD's in an entire season, I would completely slam that player and never hype that player for anything.

Which is a stupid way to assess a running back.
I'm willing to say Narduzzi doesn't share your assessment.

 

[steel_curtain]

W

Which is a stupid way to assess a running back.
I'm willing to say Narduzzi doesn't share your assessment.

-Really? Which NFL running back that is Elite goes to Pro Bowls but doesnt score TD's? Ill save you the trouble, the answer is none.

-Just like I was slamming Boyd because he couldnt score this year. He's ridiculously overrated going into the NFL draft, and his stock has dropped. 10 yard per catch average, 6 TD's the entire season, and cannot break tackles in the open field for big gains.

 

[Pittguy1980]

-As I said on the CFB main board, the bar is 8 wins for par. More than that, we did well. Less than that, we greatly underachieved. The schedule seriously is not that tough.

I really can't stand people like you. Set horribly unrealistic expectations, then if Pitt goes 7-5 you will scream to fire narduzzi.

I would be very happy with 7 or more wins. Realistically though I am thinking 6.

 

[steel_curtain]

I really can't stand people like you. Set horribly unrealistic expectations, then if Pitt goes 7-5 you will scream to fire narduzzi.

I would be very happy with 7 or more wins. Realistically though I am thinking 6.

-I predicted 8 last year. I was spot on. Im setting the bar at 8 this year, minimum, assuming no major injuries. You have the prediction in writing, save it.

 

[Pittguy1980]

I predict 7 because I want to be positive, but would be fine with 6 with this schedule.

Duke doesn't stink, and lumping them and cuss as cupcake easy wins is pretty hard to believe.

Va tech won't be easy. Neither will ga tech. I don't like pity's chances against ok st, and Psu is not a sure win.

I mean, I look at the schedule, I see Marshall, nova, and possibly cause as sure wins. I'd love to think Pitt will blow out Psu but don't thin they will. Pitt will probably lose to ok st and will get blasted by Clemson. The rest of the games are toss ups, and assuming Pitt handles nova, cause, and Marshall, then loses to Clemson and ok st, you have to go 5-2 in those toss up games just to meet your minimum expectations?

 

[PhPanther1]

Duke always falls apart at the end of the year....its going to be an easy win.

 

[steel_curtain]

I predict 7 because I want to be positive, but would be fine with 6 with this schedule.

Duke doesn't stink, and lumping them and cuss as cupcake easy wins is pretty hard to believe.

Va tech won't be easy. Neither will ga tech. I don't like pity's chances against ok st, and Psu is not a sure win.

I mean, I look at the schedule, I see Marshall, nova, and possibly cause as sure wins. I'd love to think Pitt will blow out Psu but don't thin they will. Pitt will probably lose to ok st and will get blasted by Clemson. The rest of the games are toss ups, and assuming Pitt handles nova, cause, and Marshall, then loses to Clemson and ok st, you have to go 5-2 in those toss up games just to meet your minimum expectations?

-James Conner is going to freight train teams if he is healthy. Its coming, and so is the hype. He runs out the tunnel and blasts Villanova out the gate, the hype will swarm. You will get it when you see an Elite RB freight train defenses again and score at will like Conner has proven he can do running it down teams throats. He is the difference maker, the captain, the leader, the anchor, the All American, and the ATM touchdown scorer. If Conner is healthy, you can place your bet big Pitt only wins 6 games. Be my guest.

 

[88Pitt88]

-The craziest and most pathetic part about this entire thread. Is Barkely is getting massive hype by Pitt fans. Pitt fans!!!!

-Ollison was the ACC freshmen of the year. He had more yards than Barkley, more TD's than Barkley, and played a far harder schedule than Barkley. And Ollison isnt getting any hype at all. NONE, not even by me. That's both funny and sad in its own right.

we should be able to physically pound them when we have the ball. However, After seeing the Georgia Tech and Navy games last season you probably shouldn't be so negative on Barkley. I am not saying Penn St's offense is comparable to either of these two. That said, Penn St is changing their O with the new coordinator. I am sure that they will be running some option and read options and plenty of stretch plays designed to test our ends and outside backers who have to this point been the weakness in our defense.
Barkley is quick and fast and can get to the second level quickly. We can't have Whitehead making tackles on Barkley 10 yards or more down the field. If McSorely is a capable running threat, we will have our hands full.
Barkley is simply put, their best player, and their best chance. If our linebackers were faster, I would agree that it could be an easy win, but I don't think that is likely.
You probably should watch some film of Barkley before you declare him average or worse because he only scored 7 TD's.

 

[steel_curtain]

we should be able to physically pound them when we have the ball. However, After seeing the Georgia Tech and Navy games last season you probably shouldn't be so negative on Barkley. I am not saying Penn St's offense is comparable to either of these two. That said, Penn St is changing their O with the new coordinator. I am sure that they will be running some option and read options and plenty of stretch plays designed to test our ends and outside backers who have to this point been the weakness in our defense.
Barkley is quick and fast and can get to the second level quickly. We can't have Whitehead making tackles on Barkley 10 yards or more down the field. If McSorely is a capable running threat, we will have our hands full.
Barkley is simply put, their best player, and their best chance. If our linebackers were faster, I would agree that it could be an easy win, but I don't think that is likely.
You probably should watch some film of Barkley before you declare him average or worse because he only scred 7 TD's.

-Im daring Penn State to stop a healthy Conner run it right down their throat. Im daring them.

 

[OriginalEther]

-Really? Which NFL running back that is Elite goes to Pro Bowls but doesnt score TD's? Ill save you the trouble, the answer is none.

-Just like I was slamming Boyd because he couldnt score this year. He's ridiculously overrated going into the NFL draft, and his stock has dropped. 10 yard per catch average, 6 TD's the entire season, and cannot break tackles in the open field for big gains.

Well, Doug Martin and Latavius Murray both went, and they scored all of six touchdowns apiece. DeAngelo Williams by comparison had eleven, as did Jeremy Hill. Why weren't they picked?

Your assessment of Boyd tells us all we need to know.

 

[88Pitt88]

-Im daring Penn State to stop a healthy Conner run it right down their throat. Im daring them.

agree with you there! In fact, if James is not ready, with there DL and backers we should be able to pound them with Ollison as well!

 

[steel_curtain]

Well, Doug Martin and Latavius Murray both went, and they scored all of six touchdowns apiece. DeAngelo Williams by comparison had eleven, as did Jeremy Hill. Why weren't they picked?

Your assessment of Boyd tells us all we need to know.

-That's NFL TD's. Not college where you can beat teams 80-0. We are talking NFL here.

 

[Ski11585]

-That's NFL TD's. Not college where you can beat teams 80-0. We are talking NFL here.

If we "are talking NFL here," then shouldn't NFL TDs matter?

 

[steel_curtain]

If we "are talking NFL here," then shouldn't NFL TDs matter?

-Compare NFL with NFL.

-Dont compare a player that cant score in college with the NFL.

 

[OriginalEther]

-That's NFL TD's. Not college where you can beat teams 80-0. We are talking NFL here.

Didn't you tell me that Nfl Pro Bowl running backs score a bunch of touchdowns? That I needn't look? Well I did, and Quite a few scored quite more than the six those guys scored.

 

[steel_curtain]

Didn't you tell me that Nfl Pro Bowl running backs score a bunch of touchdowns? That I needn't look? Well I did, and Quite a few scored quite more than the six those guys scored.

-You are comparing NFL players playing against NFL defenses. Not college players playing against NFL defenses. If Barkley was in the NFL right now, he wouldnt score a single TD in the NFL. He cant even score against Big Ten defenses for pete sake. Change your screen name to Penn State Barkley fan.

 

[OriginalEther]

-Compare NFL with NFL.

-Dont compare a player that cant score in college with the NFL.

But, you said you were right about assessing running backs, and apparently other positions, by touchdowns, and used the nfl touchdowns and Pro Bowl as an example. Now you're saying don't look at the Nfl. Which is it?

 

[steel_curtain]

But, you said you were right about assessing running backs, and apparently other positions, by touchdowns, and used the nfl touchdowns and Pro Bowl as an example. Now you're saying don't look at the Nfl. Which is it?

-If you want to compare the NFL with other NFL players, lets do it. Dont use college as a measurement.

 

[OriginalEther]

-You are comparing NFL players playing against NFL defenses. Not college players playing against NFL defenses. If Barkley was in the NFL right now, he wouldnt score a single TD in the NFL. He cant even score against Big Ten defenses for pete sake. Change your screen name to Penn State Barkley fan.

Lol. Trying insults when losing a debate.
Where'd I ever put the guy on a pedestal? All I've really argued that your main measuring stick - touchdowns- is not a remotely accurate way to assess a player.

 

[steel_curtain]

Lol. Trying insults when losing a debate.
Where'd I ever put the guy on a pedestal? All I've really argued that your main measuring stick - touchdowns- is not a remotely accurate way to assess a player.

-The top NFL RB in touchdowns last year scored 11 total TD's. The 11th best RB in the entire NFL scored 6 TD's for the season. The NFL is a completely different animal then college football. The defenses are 20 fold better, if not 100 fold better.

 

[Swervin27]

I really can't stand people like you. Set horribly unrealistic expectations, then if Pitt goes 7-5 you will scream to fire narduzzi.

I would be very happy with 7 or more wins. Realistically though I am thinking 6.

You can't stand fans that predict an 8-4 record? What does it say about fans that think an 8-4 record is horribly unrealistic? It's embarrassing that fans of this program would be ok with 6-6 season, beyond pathetic

 

[pitt-girl]

It's my knowledge that Clemson will simply reload on defense. That will be a very tough game.
I think Pitt is better than Duke, but cupcake is not an accurate word for them anymore.
And don't act as if Pitt didn't catch any breaks last year. Didn't they need a fake punt to beat lowly Syracuse.

My quick view....

Pitt needs to beat Villanova, Marshall, and Syracuse. That's 3-0.
If Pitt can go 5-4 against everyone else - and I don't think that's unreasonable, as I think Clemson is the only team that, right now, Pitt doesn't have a 50/50 chance against.

That puts them at 8-4. Which I would consider to be a successful season.

I'd be ecstatic with an 8-4 record.

 

[Swervin27]

Cuse and Virginia suck. If we lose to either of those bottom dwellers, we won't win 4 games this year.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

-The craziest and most pathetic part about this entire thread. Is Barkely is getting massive hype by Pitt fans. Pitt fans!!!!
-Ollison was the ACC freshmen of the year. He had more yards than Barkley, more TD's than Barkley, and played a far harder schedule than Barkley. And Ollison isnt getting any hype at all. NONE, not even by me. That's both funny and sad in its own right.

I like and respect your moxy and great info and thank you for them and the insights, it changes perceptions on realities and backs up your insights as well.

 

[Swervin27]

I like and respect your moxy and great info and thank you for them and the insights, it changes perceptions on realities and backs up your insights as well.

It's the best post in the thread. Reading this board, you would think Barkley is best rb in college football and of course ollison is terrible. Pitt fans are weird.

 

[OriginalEther]

You can't stand fans that predict an 8-4 record? What does it say about fans that think an 8-4 record is horribly unrealistic? It's embarrassing that fans of this program would be ok with 6-6 season, beyond pathetic

While I disagree with poster, I think I know what he's getting at, as some posters are over the top.

I do think Pitt needs to go at least 8-4 to keep the momentum going. My roadmap I listed shows how I think it would happen, which I don't think is unreasonable.

 

[Swervin27]

While I disagree with poster, I think I know what he's getting at, as some posters are over the top.

I do think Pitt needs to go at least 8-4 to keep the momentum going. My roadmap I listed shows how I think it would happen, which I don't think is unreasonable.

8-4 in the worst division in P5 is not over the top. Add in fcs game and our cross over is Syracuse.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

It's the best post in the thread. Reading this board, you would think Barkley is best rb in college football and of course ollison is terrible. Pitt fans are weird.

I enjoy discussions like these and good info each way, I won't put down those positive on Pitt, or lukewarm, or down on Pitt unless I have something I can link to back it up. I know the posters are changing my mind including your posts.

I think Barkley proved he is one of the best CFB RB with or without TDs, but he does need better systems for him. Ollison did great as well and both can be proud being part of the Teams. Just too early for predictions but I enjoy reading them anyway.

 

[88Pitt88]

I like and respect your moxy and great info and thank you for them and the insights, it changes perceptions on realities and backs up your insights as well.

It's the best post in the thread. Reading this board, you would think Barkley is best rb in college football and of course ollison is terrible. Pitt fans are weird.

I don't think that is the case at all, No one here said Barkley is the best back in college football. Some people here, even though they are Pitt fans accept the fact that even though a team may be our most hated opponent, they can actually have talented players on their roster also.
Barkley is a very good back, you can be a realist and accept it, or you can view things through your eternally blue and gold glasses and think he is not good.
As for Ollison, he is a different type of back, more of a hammer. A great fit for the Pitt offense but a much different back, making he and Barkley hard to compare.

 

[OriginalEther]

8-4 in the worst division in P5 is not over the top. Add in fcs game and our cross over is Syracuse.

Well, it's not the worst division, as it's better than the Atlantic and equal to the Big Ten West. And it is a legit Ooc schedule.
Nor do I think losing at Virginia means a 4-8 season, especially considering Pitts history there.

 

[Swervin27]

I don't think that is the case at all, No one here said Barkley is the best back in college football. Some people here, even though they are Pitt fans accept the fact that even though a team may be our most hated opponent, they can actually have talented players on their roster also.
Barkley is a very good back, you can be a realist and accept it, or you can view things through your eternally blue and gold glasses and think he is not good.
As for Ollison, he is a different type of back, more of a hammer. A great fit for the Pitt offense but a much different back, making he and Barkley hard to compare.

Don't tell me, tell 98% of this board that have him winning the heisman.

 

[OriginalEther]

I don't think that is the case at all, No one here said Barkley is the best back in college football. Some people here, even though they are Pitt fans accept the fact that even though a team may be our most hated opponent, they can actually have talented players on their roster also.
Barkley is a very good back, you can be a realist and accept it, or you can view things through your eternally blue and gold glasses and think he is not good.
As for Ollison, he is a different type of back, more of a hammer. A great fit for the Pitt offense but a much different back, making he and Barkley hard to compare.

Barkley would probably have better stats if he didn't have five turnstiles in front of him and a qb that was a legit threat.
All I know is that when Pitt fans bashed the psu offense last season, his name never came up.

 

[Swervin27]

Well, it's not the worst division, as it's better than the Atlantic and equal to the Big Ten West. And it is a legit Ooc schedule.
Nor do I think losing at Virginia means a 4-8 season, especially considering Pitts history there.

It's the worst division.

 

[88Pitt88]

Don't tell me, tell 98% of this board that have him winning the heisman.

That is kind of funny! Captain may have mentioned the Heisman but if his O-line hasn't improved there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of that. Not to mention the team would have to win more than 8 games for that to happen. With Milk-dud at the helm, 8 wins would be the absolute best the pedos can do.

 

[steel_curtain]

It's the worst division.

-The Coastal completely clowned the Atlantic division last year on the field, it wasnt even close. Destroyed them.

-The ACC was 5-5 vs the Big Ten last year

-Florida State completely embarrassed Florida, the SEC East Champion, in Gainsville Florida. Florida State lost to Georgia Tech last year. The SEC East is a complete trainwreck right now.

-The Pac-12 was complete garbage last year, both divisions.



-So you theory is completely false.